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#1 2014-02-23 13:12:56

schlumpfimsumpf
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[SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

After upgrading from kernel 3.12.9 to 3.13.4 (booth x86_64 architecture) i detected system freeze after round about 0.5s of the login screen about 80% of the time.
So i first thought it coulbe be the the ati driver and uninstalled that via livecd/chroot.
But the same thing happens in comand line only mode.
Afterwards i setup at ssh server to get into the maschine if it is still running, but is was also not responding to that.
Downgrading to 3.12.9 solved the issue. In journalctl i could not find any usefull information.

Last edited by schlumpfimsumpf (2014-04-10 19:16:57)

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#2 2014-02-23 14:03:23

Rexilion
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

I would try a bisect between 3.12 and 3.13. But before that, try v3.14-rc3.

There are other people on this forum probably reporting the same issue.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=177561
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=177563

Could your problem be related?

Last edited by Rexilion (2014-02-23 14:06:16)

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#3 2014-02-23 14:37:22

progandy
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

Rexilion wrote:

I would try a bisect between 3.12 and 3.13. But before that, try v3.14-rc3.

Testing currently holds 3.13.5-1 if you want to try it. For 3.14-rc3 you might want to use the binary linux-mainline package from http://arch.miffe.org/

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#4 2014-02-23 17:01:16

schlumpfimsumpf
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

I tested the kernels you suggested with the following results:

3.13.5-1: does not work
3.14-rc3: does work

But i used the 3.14-rc3 binary you suggested.

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#5 2014-02-23 19:02:24

The_Nut
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

This really sounds like the issue I have: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=177560.
In the next few days I will check my machine with ssh to see if its really the same issue but so far I think it is.

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#6 2014-02-24 22:14:10

plenus
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

I have the same issue. My system is has the first intel i7 generation and appropriate chipset.

After upgrading the kernel to 3.13.5-1 the following things happened:
1) Text console - freeze after some seconds, followed by a reboot (reboot most of the time)
2) KDE environment - freeze before getting to the desktop screen, followed by a reboot (I've noticed the reboot just once)

The only suspicious things I've found :
1) Dmsg told me I had a "mce error" and then some of the cores were timing out.
There are no mce problems under 3.12.9.

I had to use archlinux iso and chroot to downgrade the kernel and be able to use my computer.

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#7 2014-02-25 06:39:41

Rexilion
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

Could you all post your CPU + Chipset + Discrete GPU?

Furthermore, confirm if v3.14-rc3 fixes it.

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#8 2014-02-25 18:14:20

schlumpfimsumpf
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

Yes the issue is no represent in v3.14-rc3.
Pc hardware:
intel core2quad 8200
Intel P45
RV740 PRO (Radeon HD 4770)

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#9 2014-02-25 20:18:41

plenus
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

Rexilion wrote:

Could you all post your CPU + Chipset + Discrete GPU?

cpu:                                                           
                       Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         920  @ 2.67GHz, 2666 MHz
graphics card:
                       ATI RV790 [Radeon HD 4890]
chipset:
                       Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
                       Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller
                       JMicron JMB363 SATA/IDE Controller

bridge:
                       Intel 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub to ESI Port
                       Intel 82801 PCI Bridge
                       Intel 82801JIR (ICH10R) LPC Interface Controller

Rexilion wrote:

Furthermore, confirm if v3.14-rc3 fixes it.

I can't mess up with the OS during the week (I need it working to work). I'll try the other kernel release on the weekend.

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#10 2014-02-25 20:21:44

The_Nut
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

My machine:

Intel Core2Quad 8300 (LGA775)
ASUS P5QL Pro
ASUS EAH4850/ATI Radeon HD 4850

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#11 2014-02-26 19:47:42

mouilled
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

Maybe related:
- upgraded kernel 3.12.9 to 3.13.5
- systems boots around 20% of the time
- otherwise, it freezes just after launching the boot process, black screen, absolutely no trace in the journal

Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2810 @ 2.00GHz
Intel Corporation ValleyView SSA-CUnit (rev 0a)
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation ValleyView Gen7 (rev 0a)

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#12 2014-02-26 20:46:59

Rexilion
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

Seems like a generic issue. I don't see anything in common. Except they are all Intel CPU's. But that is too broad probably.

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#13 2014-02-26 21:25:32

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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

Chiming in to mention that I'm having this freezing issue as well. /proc/cpuinfo, and I'm using an Nvidia GTX 670 (with proprietary drivers). Going to install linux-lts and see if it helps.

Update: LTS kernel caused more problems that I don't have the patience to solve.

Last edited by SirCmpwn (2014-02-27 00:59:44)

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#14 2014-02-26 22:39:32

gyurman
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

Me wrote:

It is same for me. Wont boot, and crash before I can write mine pass to text screen. I use lts at now.

H/W path        Device  Class       Description
===============================================
                        system      GA-970A-UD3
/0                      bus         GA-970A-UD3
/0/0                    memory      128KiB BIOS
/0/4                    processor   Athlon
/0/4/a                  memory      128KiB L1 cache
/0/4/c                  memory      2MiB L3 cache
/0/b                    memory      128KiB L1 cache
/0/29                   memory      8GiB System Memory
/0/29/0                 memory      DIMM 1600 MHz (0,6 ns) [empty]
/0/29/1                 memory      DIMM 1600 MHz (0,6 ns) [empty]
/0/29/2                 memory      4GiB DIMM 1600 MHz (0,6 ns)
/0/29/3                 memory      4GiB DIMM 1600 MHz (0,6 ns)
/0/100                  bridge      RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (external gfx0 port B)
/0/100/0.2              generic     RD990 I/O Memory Management Unit (IOMMU)
/0/100/2                bridge      RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port B)
/0/100/2/0              display     GF106 [GeForce GTS 450]
/0/100/2/0.1            multimedia  GF106 High Definition Audio Controller
/0/100/4                bridge      RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port D)
/0/100/4/0              bus         EJ168 USB 3.0 Host Controller
/0/100/4/0/0    usb3    bus         xHCI Host Controller
/0/100/4/0/0/2          storage     ADATA USB Flash Drive
/0/100/4/0/1    usb2    bus         xHCI Host Controller
/0/100/9                bridge      RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port H)
/0/100/9/0      eth0    network     RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
/0/100/a                bridge      RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (external gfx1 port A)
/0/100/a/0              bus         EJ168 USB 3.0 Host Controller
/0/100/a/0/0    usb8    bus         xHCI Host Controller
/0/100/a/0/1    usb7    bus         xHCI Host Controller
/0/100/11               storage     SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
/0/100/12               bus         SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
/0/100/12/1     usb6    bus         OHCI Host Controller
/0/100/12/1/5           input       M Dongle
/0/100/12.2             bus         SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
/0/100/12.2/1   usb1    bus         EHCI Host Controller
/0/100/13               bus         SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
/0/100/13/1     usb9    bus         OHCI Host Controller
/0/100/13/1/1           input       USB Receiver
/0/100/13.2             bus         SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
/0/100/13.2/1   usb4    bus         EHCI Host Controller
/0/100/14               bus         SBx00 SMBus Controller
/0/100/14.2             multimedia  SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
/0/100/14.3             bridge      SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller
/0/100/14.4             bridge      SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
/0/100/14.4/7           multimedia  SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder
/0/100/14.4/e           bus         VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller
/0/100/14.5             bus         SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller
/0/100/14.5/1   usb10   bus         OHCI Host Controller
/0/100/15               bridge      SB700/SB800/SB900 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0)
/0/100/16               bus         SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
/0/100/16/1     usb11   bus         OHCI Host Controller
/0/100/16/1/3           multimedia  USB Web Camera
/0/100/16/1/4           multimedia  USB Sound Device
/0/100/16.2             bus         SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
/0/100/16.2/1   usb5    bus         EHCI Host Controller
/0/101                  bridge      Family 15h Processor Function 0
/0/102                  bridge      Family 15h Processor Function 1
/0/103                  bridge      Family 15h Processor Function 2
/0/104                  bridge      Family 15h Processor Function 3
/0/105                  bridge      Family 15h Processor Function 4
/0/106                  bridge      Family 15h Processor Function 5
/1              scsi6   storage

Working again. I think problem was the partition was full.

Last edited by gyurman (2014-04-13 07:51:22)

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#15 2014-02-27 06:13:32

iskandr
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

I had exactly the same problem and also have an Intel cpu (core i3). I would be stuck in GDM and couldn't move the mouse cursor or use my keyboard. First I thought it was related to the new modular PS/2 keyboars support but after hours of trying random stuff, I now "solved" it by removing everything I had added to my kernel boot line (in my case: vga=XXX and threadirqs ) or simply using the Fallback image

Last edited by iskandr (2014-02-27 06:21:27)

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#16 2014-02-28 02:57:26

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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

I think i have the same problem.  If i unplug my second monitor the problem goes away.  Plug it back in and it comes back.

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#17 2014-02-28 07:51:07

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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

Gregory Land wrote:

I think i have the same problem.  If i unplug my second monitor the problem goes away.  Plug it back in and it comes back.

That seems like a different symptom.

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#18 2014-02-28 12:47:02

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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

I have also 2 Monitors. So I will try what Gregory mentioned later tongue

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#19 2014-02-28 19:57:31

schlumpfimsumpf
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

Hey it is the same issue.
I just tried with one monitor and it works with 3.13.5-1.

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#20 2014-02-28 20:00:45

Rexilion
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

I see people with radeon cards, nvidia cards and integrated intel cards (i3 -> i7). Also intel chips without integrated cards and whole variety of mobo's.

Yet, you all have 2 monitors right?

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#21 2014-02-28 20:55:28

The_Nut
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

I can confirm this. 3.13.5-1 Does indeed work WITH ONE Monitor. I don't understand  (╯°O°）╯︵ ┻━┻

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#22 2014-03-01 02:54:26

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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

I have three displays and can reproduce the issue.

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#23 2014-03-01 05:34:16

Rexilion
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

So.......

anyone in for a bisect? big_smile .

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#24 2014-03-02 18:05:24

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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

Same problem and solution here.

Since 3.13 it freezes at kdm login and if I disconnect my TV it works normally !

Don't know if it could help but my hardware is as follow : i7 2600K, P67 chipset and a radeon HD4850 (with radeon driver)

Last edited by skadub (2014-03-02 18:07:41)

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#25 2014-03-02 21:08:16

mouilled
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Re: [SOLVED] System freeze after upgrade linux-3.12.9-2 to linux-3.13.4-1

The issue might be different for me then: I only have a laptop with a single display and the freeze actually occurs before anything can be logged in journal.

3.13.1 (from arch rollback machine) produces exactly the same symptoms.

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