Cinnamon slow with startup programs after update

Strider · 2014-03-11 21:38:57

Hi,
I received a cinnamon/mutter update today (to version 2.0.14-3). After that, my desktop starts up slow in the sense that I takes a long time before the startup programs get launched (essentially conky and cairo-dock). Before the update, those programs were started almost instantanously with the desktop.

Anybody has same experience ?

Thanks in advance.

Serge2702 · 2014-03-12 03:36:41

Yes, I Have exactly the same problem. This update corrected some minor graphical glitches, but now it's slow at startup.

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z3r0_k00l75 · 2014-03-12 07:01:23

I have the same problem as well. Would be nice to have an update to fix this update.

zikaeroh · 2014-03-13 20:23:03

Same thing here. There's anywhere from a 15-30 second delay on my setup, where it was near instant before. I had to disable session saving to get things responsive in a reasonable amount of time.

Strider · 2014-03-13 20:49:17

Downgrading of cinnamon, cinnamon-settings-daemon and cinnamon-session did not solve the problem. I filed a bug report :
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/39392.

Serge2702 · 2014-03-14 01:51:18

The problem is "solved" if you downgrade libevdev to 0.6-1, clutter to 1.16.4-2, muffin to 2.0.5-1 and cinnamon to 2-.0.14-2.

jaylittle · 2014-03-14 10:22:04

I can confirm the existence of this problem. Downgrading the packages Serge suggested seemed to "fix" the issue.

longcao · 2014-03-14 16:44:32

Problem confirmed too. Here is my bootchart.
Apparently it took 30s after mdm login to enable startup applications (uget, guake, ibus).

And thanks Serge for your great workaround.

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romanbo · 2014-03-14 19:15:04

I spent half a day at work finding the error (didn't remember that I updated Cinnamon). I'm glad that I finally found this thread! Does anybody know if the problem only occurs on Arch or on other Distributions with the newest Cinnamon update, too?

jaylittle · 2014-03-14 19:56:00

Cinnamon didn't change. It was a new release and not a new version. It's likely either due to an incompatibility between cinnamon and the new version of libevdev or some kind of muck up in the packaging process. In any event it's almost certainly Arch specific.

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rusty725 · 2014-03-16 23:44:17

still not fixed

ewaller · 2014-03-17 03:01:55

rusty725 wrote:

still not fixed

Come on, that sort of post is not helpful. Please feel free to add to the content of the thread, bit not just to make noise.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fo … mpty_Posts

rusty725 · 2014-03-17 03:41:55

ewaller wrote:

rusty725 wrote:
still not fixed
Come on, that sort of post is not helpful. Please feel free to add to the content of the thread, bit not just to make noise.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fo … mpty_Posts

sorry I didn't realize that. I wish I knew what exactly's causing that issue so I can report that. My system has been lagging since these updates, even after I downgraded these packages I still get minor lags.

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jaylittle · 2014-03-20 23:16:42

So it appears that this issue is going to be around for awhile. Has anybody tried compiling cinnamon from git with the new clutter and libevdev dependencies and seeing if that resolves the issue?

Serge2702 · 2014-03-21 06:18:21

I tried to install cinnamon-git from the AUR, but I can't compile it, it says that libcinnamon-menu-3.0 is missing, and I can't find it.

Marshal Kilgore · 2014-03-29 23:59:47

Tested updating libevdev to version 1.1-1 from 28.03.2014 on my system, but it did not resolve the issue.

jaylittle · 2014-03-30 14:04:54

I'm guessing/hoping that the issue is clutter related. There is a new version of clutter out, but it has yet to hit any of the arch repos. It seems when it comes to cinnamon/clutter everybody has gone out for an extended lunch

jaylittle · 2014-03-30 23:05:36

If you guys are as eager as I am to get this issue resolved, feel free to create an account on the bug tracker and vote up this task: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/39368

jaylittle · 2014-04-08 14:32:03

Well screw it. Between this and other cinnamon related issues I seem to be having, I've made the decision to switch over to Gnome for now. cinnamon-settings-daemon seems to crash after I stream something using the Steam Streaming beta and this results in all of my icons, themes and fonts changing back to system defaults. <sigh> What the heck is going on with cinnamon in the Arch repos?

jaylittle · 2014-04-14 20:58:27

Just upgraded to Cinnamon 2.2 as that hit the non-testing repos today and the problem actually seems worse now. Oh well. At least I've got Gnome 3.

clfarron4 · 2014-04-14 21:01:46

jaylittle wrote:

Just upgraded to Cinnamon 2.2 as that hit the non-testing repos today and the problem actually seems worse now. Oh well. At least I've got Gnome 3.

I think there's a load more problems than that. A load of settings including GTK, font and icon themes (amongst other stuff) aren't being applied here.

EDIT: Oh, and my media keys are now broken for all media applications. Just great. Back to Mate w/ Compiz (because GNOME 3 hates my APU with a passion).

EDIT2: Flipping heck, even my Cinnamon settings in dconf-editor have been reset, and keyboard layout too ~~

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Strider · 2014-04-15 10:24:14

I can confirm that updating to cinnamon 2.2 makes the problem worse. I held off any upgrades clutter and cinnamon related to the issue for which I started this thread. Until I saw the bunch of upgrades this morning ... Now my session won't even start! And what is worse : even xfce refuses to start

longcao · 2014-04-15 13:30:33

Strider wrote:

I can confirm that updating to cinnamon 2.2 makes the problem worse. I held off any upgrades clutter and cinnamon related to the issue for which I started this thread. Until I saw the bunch of upgrades this morning ... Now my session won't even start! And what is worse : even xfce refuses to start

I have the same problem like you, and had to manually downgrade packages from the latest upgrade. I wish the cinnamon/gnome Arch maintainer could do something to solve these issues soon.

Square252 · 2014-04-15 20:26:14

Hi all,

I had these problems too, luckily I still got i3 on my business machine so I could at least do work stuff until I had time to take a closer look.
But after updating to the packages

community/cinnamon-session 2.2.0-2
community/cinnamon 2.2.3-3
(and some pkg I don't remember anymore) the problem seems fixed. Works like a charm again, every application in autostart pops even faster up in the tray than with cinnamon 2.0.x. Someone pressed the turbo button on the fastest distro

Last edited by Square252 (2014-04-15 20:28:06)

Strider · 2014-04-16 06:40:50

I ended up ditching cinnamon... I discovered that there were 2 problems :
1) my login manager mdm. This is an AUR package which is now malfunctioning because of the update
2) cinnamon itself of course
To solve my first problem I installed gdm : now I could get again in xfce.
Then I upgraded cinnamon since some updates did arrive in the meantime. But I was confronted with my original problem : startup applications only appeared after a while.
Since with installing gdm I already have half of gnome I went the whole way. This worked very well. So bye bye cinnamon...

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