arch lists (like ls, nautilus) is case sensitive

rudrab · 2014-03-15 15:09:31

Hi,
I tried to discuss this issue in the IRC channel, but as a beginner, I failed to solve it.
In my Arch, all lists are case sensitive.
so, if I do ls, Downloads comes before bin (same in nautilus), and in IRC channel list, freenode is at the bottom after Gimpnet and so. I want those as case insensitive. So, ls should give
bin/
Downloads/

As per advice in IRC, I have:

# cat /etc/locale.conf 
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="C"

And this is the /etc/profile

# cat /etc/profile
# /etc/profile

#Set our umask
umask 022

# Set our default path
PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin"
export PATH

# Load profiles from /etc/profile.d
if test -d /etc/profile.d/; then
    for profile in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do
        test -r "$profile" && . "$profile"
    done
    unset profile
fi

# Source global bash config
if test "$PS1" && test "$BASH" && test -r /etc/bash.bashrc; then
    . /etc/bash.bashrc
fi

# Termcap is outdated, old, and crusty, kill it.
unset TERMCAP

# Man is much better than us at figuring this out
unset MANPATH
[root@roddur rudra]#

I have found https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=34699 thread but I dont have rc.conf (is it depreciated?)

Kindly help me solving this.

Last edited by rudrab (2014-03-15 17:31:14)

karol · 2014-03-15 15:22:30

Yes, rc,conf along with the rest of initscripts is deprecated.
The order you get from e.g. 'ls' is governed by collation settings. Change it from C to some other. You can just remove

LC_COLLATE="C"

for start.

When posting configs, code or command output, please use [ code ] tags https://bbs.archlinux.org/help.php#bbcode

like this

It makes the code more readable and - in case of longer listings - more convenient to scroll through.

rudrab · 2014-03-15 17:34:26

Actually

LC_COLLATE="C"

has no effect for my problem. neither the locale-gen generated it at the time of installation. I put it as suggested in the irc, but as i said, it has no effect and have removed it, as you suggested.

Last edited by rudrab (2014-03-15 17:35:25)

karol · 2014-03-15 17:40:56

I know nothing about nautilus, but keeping collation set to en_US.UTF-8, just as the rest of your locale, should work:

$ LC_COLLATE=C ls
1  2  A  B  a  b
$ LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8 ls
1  2  a  A  b  B

rudrab · 2014-03-15 18:04:45

I am still getting:

 LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8 ls
B  a

karol · 2014-03-15 18:26:21

What's the output of

localectl
type -p ls

produnis · 2015-01-20 17:00:39

I have this issue too

LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8 ls
B C a b

and the command "localectl" is not available...

karol · 2015-01-20 19:46:16

produnis wrote:

and the command "localectl" is not available...

What's the output of

uname -a
locale
locale -a

produnis · 2015-01-20 21:06:22

[22:05:30] produnis@elrond:~$ uname -a
Linux elrond 3.18.2-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jan 9 07:37:51 CET 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:05:35] produnis@elrond:~$ locale
LANG=de_DE.utf8
LC_CTYPE="de_DE.utf8"
LC_NUMERIC="de_DE.utf8"
LC_TIME="de_DE.utf8"
LC_COLLATE=C
LC_MONETARY="de_DE.utf8"
LC_MESSAGES="de_DE.utf8"
LC_PAPER="de_DE.utf8"
LC_NAME="de_DE.utf8"
LC_ADDRESS="de_DE.utf8"
LC_TELEPHONE="de_DE.utf8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="de_DE.utf8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="de_DE.utf8"
LC_ALL=
[22:05:45] produnis@elrond:~$ locale -a
C
POSIX
de_DE
de_DE.iso88591
de_DE.iso885915@euro
de_DE.utf8
de_DE@euro
deutsch
german
[22:05:49] produnis@elrond:~$

falconindy · 2015-01-20 23:35:51

Your collation is C, and you tried to override with a locale you haven't generated. Working as intended. If you don't want C collation, don't set it (perhaps in /etc/locale.conf)?

cedeel · 2015-01-21 02:59:34

It's also not necessary to have "deutsch" or "german" in your /etc/locale.gen file. The various "de_DE" variants should be fine, and if you only use one of them, that should be fine.

produnis · 2015-01-21 09:13:32

my locale.conf looks like this:

LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=C

So if I understand it correct, I would have to change it into:

LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=de_DE.UTF-8

right? - correct!

EDIT:
forgot to reboot machine....
This way it works!!
THX A LOT!!!!

Last edited by produnis (2015-01-21 12:24:28)

Mr.Elendig · 2015-01-21 12:22:18

Mark the thread as solved

produnis · 2015-01-21 12:24:00

I would,
but I am not the thread-starter ( = user "rudrab")...
I just hopped on as I struggled to solve this issue too

alphaniner · 2015-01-21 15:11:57

produnis wrote:

So if I understand it correct, I would have to change it into:
LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=de_DE.UTF-8

You don't even need to specify LC_COLLATE unless you want it to be different from LANG. So all you really need in /etc/locale.conf is

LANG=de_DE.UTF-8

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arch lists (like ls, nautilus) is case sensitive

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