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#1 2006-01-15 18:04:24

ozar
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Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

Some of you fellow FVWM lovers might be happy to know that 2.5.15 is out:

http://fvwm.org/news/#2.5.15

Changes in beta release 2.5.15 (14-Jan-2006)

    * New features:
    * Variables can be nested, like $[desk.name$[desk.n]].
    * Obsolete one-letter variables work, but generate warnings now.
    * Windows can be placed by any button (now also >3).
    * It is now possible to redefine the buttons usable to finish window movement and manual placement.
    * New window condition PlacedByButton.
    * MenuStyle pairs can be negated by prefixing '!'.
    * New generic tabbing module - FvwmTabs.
    * New Style option: EWMHIgnoreWindowType.
    * New MenuStyle options: MouseWheel, ScrollOffPage and TrianglesUseFore.
    * To compile from CVS, autoconf-2.53 or above is now required. This does not affect compiling the released tarballs.
    * New option "screen" to Move and ResizeMove commands to allow specifying the target Xinerama screen.
    * Bug Fixes:
    * Supported a new fribidi version 0.10.5 in addition to 0.10.4.
    * Better look for windows with "BorderStyle TiledPixmap".
    * Some EWMH-related 64-bit fixes.
    * Fixed segmentation fault when replacing title of title only menus (Bug #1121).
    * Fixes for resizing of shaded windows and resizing/moving windows with complex functions.


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#2 2006-01-15 18:33:47

Snowman
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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

The new FvwmTabs module looks interesting... 8)

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#3 2006-01-15 18:43:47

ozar
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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

Snowman wrote:

The new FvwmTabs module looks interesting... 8)

Yeah, I think quite a few users have been looking forward to that.  smile


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#4 2006-01-15 18:55:56

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

I'm glad to see TrianglesUseFore for menus (which should be the default in my opinion). Other than a few things here or there, I won't be really excited by anything until fvwm3 comes out wink


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#5 2006-01-15 19:36:51

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

Mayby I should play with fvwm some time. I think it is really cool. big_smile


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#6 2006-01-15 20:23:45

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

My God. When I look at these pics, I want to use FVWM. big_smile

http://www.lynucs.org/?fvwm


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#7 2006-01-15 20:29:21

ozar
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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

whargoul wrote:

My God. When I look at these pics, I want to use FVWM. big_smile

http://www.lynucs.org/?fvwm

Glad to hear you are taking an interest in Fvwm.   8)

It's very powerful, indeed, and if you create your own configs it's definitely a lot of work, but you'll learn a great deal about how window managers work.  If you don't want to create your own, that's okay too, as there are lots of good ready-to-go configs to be found on the fvwm forums:

http://fvwm.lair.be/

...and of course, you can always customize the ready-to-go configs to suit your own tastes and needs.   smile


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#8 2006-01-15 20:47:43

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

ozar wrote:

Glad to hear you are taking an interest in Fvwm.   8)

Oh I always had interest in Fvwm, but I never had the guts. But now I want to try it. big_smile


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#9 2006-01-15 20:55:56

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

ozar wrote:
Snowman wrote:

The new FvwmTabs module looks interesting... 8)

Yeah, I think quite a few users have been looking forward to that.  smile

what does it exactly do? tabs?

second question. how do you get this mac osx bar like thing in fvwm?
http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_ … 0&p=screen

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#10 2006-01-15 21:03:00

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

atze wrote:
ozar wrote:
Snowman wrote:

The new FvwmTabs module looks interesting... 8)

Yeah, I think quite a few users have been looking forward to that.  smile

what does it exactly do? tabs?

Yes. At least, that's what I guess from the name. wink

atze wrote:

second question. how do you get this mac osx bar like thing in fvwm?
http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_ … 0&p=screen

You can get the config from the author's blog: blueblog.org

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#11 2006-01-15 21:04:35

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

atze wrote:

what does it exactly do? tabs?

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~scottsmedley/fvwmtabs/

atze wrote:

second question. how do you get this mac osx bar like thing in fvwm?
http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_ … 0&p=screen

It's just FvwmButtons and probably some FvwmScripts as well.


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#12 2006-01-15 21:05:37

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

atze wrote:

what does it exactly do? tabs?

http://www.fvwm.org/documentation/manpa … wmTabs.php


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#13 2006-01-15 22:56:07

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

now all we need is someone to put it in unstable :>

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#14 2006-01-16 06:25:01

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

The new release sounds interesting.


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#15 2006-01-16 07:46:28

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

atze wrote:
ozar wrote:
Snowman wrote:

The new FvwmTabs module looks interesting... 8)

Yeah, I think quite a few users have been looking forward to that.  smile

what does it exactly do? tabs?
http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_ … 0&p=screen

Don't you have something like google on your computer?? roll
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~scottsmedley/fvwmtabs/

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#16 2006-01-16 17:05:40

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

One question. How stable is 2.5.x compared to 2.4.x or other WM's?


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#17 2006-01-16 17:11:22

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

fvwm-devel (2.5.x) is pretty stable. I'm using it for several months without any issues. I think that the other Arch fvwm users use the devel version too as it has more features.

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#18 2006-01-16 17:12:17

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

Myself I have had never problem with 2.5.14. There is no need to keep it in the unstable repo.


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#19 2006-01-16 17:17:00

ozar
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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

whargoul wrote:

One question. How stable is 2.5.x compared to 2.4.x or other WM's?

As of version 2.2, an odd second digit denotes development releases and even numbers denote stable releases, but I think most everyone here will advise you to go for 2.5 release over the 2.4 release.


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#20 2006-01-16 17:42:07

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

what about the rounded corners of windows ? Do you know if it's included in this release or planned to be ?

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#21 2006-01-16 18:06:13

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

No it is not included in this release as far as I know. I only expect rounded corners to be a feature when fvwm3 arrives.

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#22 2006-01-16 20:21:13

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

I can't compile fvwm 2.5.15 because of X.org 7.0. I need theese libraries:

X11/X.h 
X11/Xfuncproto.h
X11/Xosdefs.h

but I just can't find them anywhere.


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#23 2006-01-16 21:40:53

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

They are in xproto.

BTW, fvwm 2.5.15 builds fine with xorg 6.8.x. I'll try it in a few moments. tongue

EDIT: the sed line isn't needed anymore.

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#24 2006-01-17 02:19:15

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

baze wrote:

now all we need is someone to put it in unstable :>

That could take some time as neri is relatively busy. Here's an updated PKGBUILD:

pkgname=fvwm-devel
pkgver=2.5.15
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="A multiple large virtual desktop window manager originally derived from twm"
url="http://www.fvwm.org"
depends=('imlib' 'fribidi' 'perl' 'x-server' 'libstroke' 'perl-tk' 'perl-x11-protocol')
source=(ftp://ftp.fvwm.org/pub/fvwm/version-2/fvwm-$pkgver.tar.bz2 
        $pkgname.desktop)
md5sums=('b56fc10535968ab8c059854c9c07c311' '3f5bcb246e035ff29aa5bf54487a3db4')

build() {
  cd $startdir/src/fvwm-$pkgver
  ./configure --prefix=/usr 
    --sysconfdir=/etc 
    --libexecdir=/usr/lib 
    --with-xft-prefix=/usr/X11R6 
    --with-fontconfig=/usr 
    --with-stroke
  make || return 1
  make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install
  mkdir -p $startdir/pkg/etc/fvwm
  cp sample.fvwmrc/* $startdir/pkg/etc/fvwm
  rm -f $startdir/pkg/etc/fvwm/{Makefile,Makefile.am,Makefile.in}
  install -Dm 644 ../$pkgname.desktop 
    $startdir/pkg/etc/X11/sessions/$pkgname.desktop
}

It needs perl-x11-protocol that I uploaded to AUR and fvwm.desktop from abs. It's for xorg in current.  Users of Xorg 7 in testing will need to change the --with-xft-prefix configure option and maybe the depends.  The new MenuStyle options are nice. Didn't tried FvwmTabs yet.
Enjoy! big_smile

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#25 2006-01-17 18:16:58

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Re: Fvwm 2.5.15 is out...

Don't y'all forget my CVS pkg in [dibble] it's not very up to date ATM but it's a good way of staying up to date with the latest changes smile  Building it yourself with versionpkg is dead easy too smile

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