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rickco

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Registered: 2014-04-22

Posts: 4

No sound on hda-intel after kernel update from 3.11.6-1 to 3.14.1-1

Hi,

It looks like a few people have audio prolems following last kernel updates.
Yesterday I updated my arch (6 months old) and now I have no soundcard
After hours and hours of forum reading and tries, I am now kindly asking your help

dmesg | grep hda 

[    7.664189] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
[    7.664314] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 42 for MSI/MSI-X
[    7.766374] hda-intel 0000:00:1b.0: no codecs initialized

This debug script outputs :  www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh

!!################################
!!ALSA Information Script v 0.4.63
!!################################

!!Script ran on: Tue Apr 22 20:27:27 UTC 2014


!!Linux Distribution
!!------------------

Arch Linux \r (\l) Arch Linux release DISTRIB_ID=Arch DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Arch Linux" NAME="Arch Linux" ID=arch PRETTY_NAME="Arch Linux" HOME_URL="https://www.archlinux.org/" SUPPORT_URL="https://bbs.archlinux.org/" BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.archlinux.org/"


!!DMI Information
!!---------------

Manufacturer:      TOSHIBA
Product Name:      SATELLITE U200
Product Version:   PLUA0E-00301GFR
Firmware Version:  Version 3.70


!!Kernel Information
!!------------------

Kernel release:    3.14.1-1-ARCH
Operating System:  GNU/Linux
Architecture:      x86_64
Processor:         unknown
SMP Enabled:       Yes


!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version:     k3.14.1-1-ARCH
Library version:    1.0.27.2
Utilities version:  1.0.27.2


!!Loaded ALSA modules
!!-------------------



!!Sound Servers on this system
!!----------------------------

Jack:
      Installed - Yes (/usr/bin/jackd)
      Running - No


!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
!!-----------------------------

--- no soundcards ---


!!PCI Soundcards installed in the system
!!--------------------------------------

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
03:0b.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD)


!!Advanced information - PCI Vendor/Device/Subsystem ID's
!!-------------------------------------------------------

00:1b.0 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 02)
	Subsystem: 1179:0001

!!Loaded sound module options
!!---------------------------

!!ALSA Device nodes
!!-----------------

crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116,  1 Apr 22 21:24 /dev/snd/seq
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 33 Apr 22 21:24 /dev/snd/timer

!!Aplay/Arecord output
!!--------------------

APLAY

aplay: device_list:268: no soundcards found...

ARECORD

arecord: device_list:268: no soundcards found...

!!Amixer output
!!-------------

!!Alsactl output
!!--------------

--startcollapse--
--endcollapse--

!!All Loaded Modules
!!------------------

Module
fuse
ctr
ccm
nls_iso8859_1
nls_cp437
vfat
fat
joydev
pcmcia
coretemp
hwmon
yenta_socket
kvm_intel
kvm
microcode
i915
iTCO_wdt
iTCO_vendor_support
gpio_ich
pcspkr
arc4
psmouse
iwl3945
serio_raw
pcmcia_rsrc
pcmcia_core
snd_hda_intel
iwlegacy
e100
drm_kms_helper
toshiba_acpi
lpc_ich
sparse_keymap
thermal
tpm_infineon
mac80211
mii
rng_core
drm
snd_hda_codec
evdev
mousedev
mac_hid
cfg80211
rfkill
wmi
battery
ac
tpm_tis
tpm
intel_agp
snd_hwdep
snd_pcm
snd_timer
snd
video
i2c_algo_bit
soundcore
toshiba_bluetooth
button
i2c_core
shpchp
intel_gtt
phc_intel
processor
ext4
crc16
mbcache
jbd2
hid_generic
usbhid
hid
dm_mod
sd_mod
sr_mod
cdrom
crc_t10dif
crct10dif_common
ata_generic
pata_acpi
atkbd
libps2
sdhci_pci
sdhci
led_class
ata_piix
mmc_core
tifm_7xx1
libata
scsi_mod
ehci_pci
firewire_ohci
tifm_core
uhci_hcd
ehci_hcd
firewire_core
crc_itu_t
usbcore
usb_common
i8042
serio

!!ALSA/HDA dmesg
!!--------------

[    7.640545] e100: Copyright(c) 1999-2006 Intel Corporation
[    7.664189] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
[    7.664314] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 42 for MSI/MSI-X
[    7.675671] e100 0000:03:08.0 eth0: addr 0xffaff000, irq 20, MAC addr 00:0e:7b:8c:ae:a4
[    7.684128] leds_ss4200: no LED devices found
[    7.766374] hda-intel 0000:00:1b.0: no codecs initialized
[    7.981069] iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux, in-tree:s

Are the last kernell building options correct ?  :
zcat /proc/config.gz | grep CONFIG_SND_HDA

CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_DSP_LOADER=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_PREALLOC_SIZE=4096
CONFIG_SND_HDA_HWDEP=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_RECONFIG=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP_MODE=1
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_JACK=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_PATCH_LOADER=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_ANALOG=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SIGMATEL=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_VIA=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_HDMI=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_I915=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CIRRUS=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CONEXANT=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0110=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0132=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0132_DSP=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CMEDIA=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SI3054=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_POWER_SAVE_DEFAULT=0

lspci -v

00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:0001]
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 42
	Region 0: Memory at 100000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
	Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel

I am an toshiba u200-162.
Can you please help me ? do I have to launch a codec manually ? the driver ?
thanks

Rexilion

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Registered: 2013-12-23

Posts: 784

Re: No sound on hda-intel after kernel update from 3.11.6-1 to 3.14.1-1

They are currently reworking the hda sound driver to be more generic. That would reduce duplication and thus maintainance burden.

Could you check if it worked with any of the previous kernels? (3.13 might be a good start, then 3.12).

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rickco

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Registered: 2014-04-22

Posts: 4

Re: No sound on hda-intel after kernel update from 3.11.6-1 to 3.14.1-1

Can you please confirm the easiest way to downgrade the kernell is to download it here :
http://seblu.net/a/arm/packages/l/linux/

and run
pacman -U linux-3.13.8-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz linux-hearders-3.13.8-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

will i break dependencies ?

Rexilion

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Registered: 2013-12-23

Posts: 784

Re: No sound on hda-intel after kernel update from 3.11.6-1 to 3.14.1-1

No, kernel downgrades should be no problem as a general rule. Unless something is depending on a very new feature. You could think of systemD and Xorg and such. But this is not the case. Unsupported features will be disabled / enabled without trouble.

However, that is the main rule. Pacman should warn you of any dependency trouble btw.

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rickco

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Registered: 2014-04-22

Posts: 4

Re: No sound on hda-intel after kernel update from 3.11.6-1 to 3.14.1-1

I tried downgrading to linux-3.14-4 , sound still not working (forgot to look for /proc/config.gz options)
Then I simply tried to come back to my previous kernel 3.11.6-1 with

cd /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
sudo pacman -U linux-3.11.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz linux-headers-3.11.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

and sound is back ...

please see below the output information for 3.11.6-1 . What did they change in the new kernell that break my sound ?
I will try to find the starting to fail kernell version using dichotomy search

dmesg | grep hda   

[    8.721074] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
[    8.721228] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 42 for MSI/MSI-X

result of  alsa-info.sh :
http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=79840 … ec05ade145

zcat /proc/config.gz | grep CONFIG_SND_HDA :

CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_DSP_LOADER=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_PREALLOC_SIZE=4096
CONFIG_SND_HDA_HWDEP=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_RECONFIG=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP_MODE=1
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_JACK=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_PATCH_LOADER=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_ANALOG=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SIGMATEL=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_VIA=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_HDMI=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_I915=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CIRRUS=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CONEXANT=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0110=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0132=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0132_DSP=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CMEDIA=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SI3054=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_POWER_SAVE_DEFAULT=0

Last edited by rickco (2014-04-23 19:26:04)

Rexilion

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Registered: 2013-12-23

Posts: 784

Re: No sound on hda-intel after kernel update from 3.11.6-1 to 3.14.1-1

I'm not sure if you made a typo or not.

Our suggestion was to try different major kernel versions between v3.11 and v3.14. So, that would be v3.13 and v3.12.

If v3.11 and v3.14 work, then every version should work in between dependency wise (apart from any resolved regressions).

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rickco

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Registered: 2014-04-22

Posts: 4

Re: No sound on hda-intel after kernel update from 3.11.6-1 to 3.14.1-1

I said :
3.14.1-1 : no sound
3.14-4 : no sound
3.11.6 : sound working
I will try 3.12 and 3.13 tonight (however result could differ depending subversion as compiled options are changed between them, that's why I may have a lot more versions to test than just 3.12 and 3.13 to identify exactly when it started to fail)

kungfoo

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Registered: 2006-09-09

Posts: 43

Re: No sound on hda-intel after kernel update from 3.11.6-1 to 3.14.1-1

On my machine issues with audio devices are also fixed by downgrading to 3.13.8-1-ARCH...