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#1 2014-05-19 20:21:12

axelectrik
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[SOLVED] Warcraft Low FPS

When I first installed my nvidia card (like 4 months ago) only overclocked by factory but not by me in any settings; I was having great FPS in Warcraft, in dungeons and caves, like 80-100 fps in big cities like Orgrimmar 30-45 .
Suddenly, out of nowhere it just went to half of it, on dungeos I'm having like 30-40 and in big cities 9-20 fps, I cant tell what really changed, I made no changes that I can recall, the only weird fact was I started having some issues with compiz, when I did Alt+Tab the computer freezed and in journalctl I could see some messsage regarding an error with "NVR"
Anyway, I made a whole fresh installation, and it came out with the same results in Warcraft FPS but the problem with compiz was fixed sad

I tried all the tweaks in Arch Wiki regarding Warcraft and nVidia but still wont solve it, also I noticed Warcraft is only using 45% of graphic card, is there a way to increase it?
Also I tried installing beta drivers, wich are the ones that I used before and it behaves even worst.
Any ideas?

UPDATE (fix)::
Problem was in the new intel_pstate for frequency scaling, it only has powersave and performance governors.
Setting this in the kernel command line disables intel_pstate and goes back to acpi_cpufreq letting decide whether to use ondemand or conservative governors, being possible to increase CPU ratio.

intel_pstate=disable

Still, using acpi_cpufreq with powersave will ahve the same behavior of intel and won't increase CPU clock.

Thank you everyone big_smile

Last edited by axelectrik (2014-05-28 04:33:52)

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#2 2014-05-20 12:14:11

emeres
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Re: [SOLVED] Warcraft Low FPS

Some applications run with a specific wine version better than with others. Try out different wine versions [and architectures if you are running a x86_64 system]. You can use PlayOnLinux to do that quickly.

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#3 2014-05-20 21:35:04

axelectrik
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Re: [SOLVED] Warcraft Low FPS

I know, I'm starting to blame the kernel, the only thing in common between the last system and the new installation would be that.
I've tried with wine-multimedia (the one I mostly use), wine-csmt, wine-rt and wine but with all of them is the same result.
I'm a little worried that it might be the performance of the graphic car, wich I doubt since it is almost new, is there any way to test it?

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#4 2014-05-20 21:42:39

emeres
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Re: [SOLVED] Warcraft Low FPS

That may be also the case. I meant however different wine versions as in wine-1.7.17, wine-1.6 and so on. You mean a benchmark, like the one from Phoronix?

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#5 2014-05-20 22:23:27

brebs
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Re: [SOLVED] Warcraft Low FPS

Sounds like thermal throttling. Check the temperature of the CPU & video card (in e.g. nvidia-settings), immediately after gaming for a while.

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#6 2014-05-20 23:52:05

axelectrik
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Re: [SOLVED] Warcraft Low FPS

UPDATE: As time goes by it is owrking better, still not as good as it should but better, maybe 5 or 7 frames above

No termal throttling :S , CPU still under 75° (I've had it more overclocked at 90° and running "fine") and graphic card beneath 47°
Mmm yes I guess I'll try the Phronix benchamark to test the card, also, any idea on how to downgrade kernel?? downgrade in the aur is not working (throws 404 in every package). I'll also try wine versions.

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#7 2014-05-21 00:08:50

emeres
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Re: [SOLVED] Warcraft Low FPS

Use ARM for downgrade or compile the package yourself. So is this still factory overclocking? Did you clean the radiator of the gpu/cpu?

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#8 2014-05-21 02:36:56

axelectrik
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Re: [SOLVED] Warcraft Low FPS

Thanks for all the ideas, yes factory overclocking only, I haven't changed the settings on the graphics and the motherboard beeps when CPU is overheating (it doesn't beep)
Mmm about cleaning, well I did just the basic, take off the dust. And how often am I supposed to do it? tongue
Still went a little above downgrading wine, but no more than 2-3 frames, about downgrading kernel, I'll have to try it, any idea if I can get a packaged old version of linux-ck-ivybridge?
And, yes I have tried with usual kernel and different schedulers, no difference on the game.

Thanks smile

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#9 2014-05-21 15:14:42

emeres
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Re: [SOLVED] Warcraft Low FPS

axelectrik wrote:

Mmm about cleaning, well I did just the basic, take off the dust. And how often am I supposed to do it?

As often as it gets really dirty? How old is your PSU? Can it handle the new GPU well? What are the power ratings of the GPU, CPU and PSU? Did you clean the PSU? They usually accumulate one of the highest amount of high density dirt out of all components. Can you look up voltages in BIOS/UEFI or using sensors or something similar?

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#10 2014-05-27 23:26:31

axelectrik
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Re: [SOLVED] Warcraft Low FPS

THank you al for your suggestions and sorry for this delay!!
I've been trying a lot of stuff, kernel, cleaning PSU, overclocking CPU ... and there is where I found the problem!! Still I need help to solve it
I noticed that temperature on CPU was always below 50° wich is not usual when I play WoW, soo I checked the clock ratio, it was under 1.8GHz! (why would I want an i5 running WoW at that speed)
So I changed the settings on cpupower for performance, by doing these the game fps increased like crazy, just as I typed Enter to the command it went from 30fps to 68fps

The problem appears to be the governor since it is in powersave, but also I don't want to have it in performance, would be a waste to have high frequencies when I'm just browsing web, but these are the only governors available (no ondemand, conservative or userspace)
I've also noticed the same low frequencies when compiling or running any other apps.

Any idea in how to set the frequency "ondemand" or how to get these modules? (the only one that appears is userspace but cannto be applied even if modprobed
Thank again

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