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Squarex

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Registered: 2012-07-08

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Ark (framework), for the moment, can't open 7z and RAR, right?

It doesn't work for me either.

arojas

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Ark (framework), for the moment, can't open 7z and RAR, right?

It doesn't work for me either.

Please report it to bugs.kde.org, that's how things get fixed

drog

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Ark (framework), for the moment, can't open 7z and RAR, right?

It doesn't work for me either.

Please report it to bugs.kde.org, that's how things get fixed

fixed

http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=ark.git&a=co … bbf6d31fb1

http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=ark.git&a=co … 71ca0188bf

tuxador

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

since yesterday's "pacman -Syu " thing, i have a very laggy plasma desktop, it takes about 10-20 sec to open an application, anyone experiencing the same annoyance ?

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Ekaradon

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

..But if you launch kde4 you have a mixed kde4/kf5. This is not possible, in sddm login you can have KDE4 or Plasma not both!

For the ugly interface install the breeze theme and in /etc/sddm.conf you must put "Current=breeze"
If you cannot login most probably the sddm.conf file is missing or is not configured fine. Here is my configuration:

Indeed for the ugly interface. Adding the configuration file did it. Thanks!
However, it still did not succeed to launch the kde-plasma5 desktop. Here is the log I get in reverse order:

Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[631]: pam_unix(systemd-user:session): session closed for user ekaradon
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Received SIGRTMIN+24 from PID 650 (kill).
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet dbus[300]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Starting Exit the Session...
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Reached target Shutdown.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Starting Shutdown.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Stopped target Sockets.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Stopping Sockets.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Stopped target Timers.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Stopping Timers.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Stopped target Paths.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Stopping Paths.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Stopped target Basic System.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Stopping Basic System.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Stopped target Default.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Stopping Default.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[1]: Cannot add dependency job for unit cups.socket, ignoring: Unit cups.socket failed to load: No such file or directory.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <warn> Could not get scan request result: Scan request rejected
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> (wlp5s0): supplicant interface state: scanning -> disconnected
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet dbus[300]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service'
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTED
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> (wlp5s0): deactivating device (reason 'connection-removed') [38]
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> (wlp5s0): device state change: deactivating -> disconnected (reason 'connection-removed') [110 30 38]
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd-logind[297]: Removed session c8.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTING
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> (wlp5s0): device state change: config -> deactivating (reason 'connection-removed') [50 110 38]
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm[599]: Auth: sddm-helper exited with 1
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm-helper[629]: [PAM] Ended.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm[599]: Session started
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> (wlp5s0): supplicant interface state: disconnected -> scanning
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm[599]: Greeter stopped.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm[599]: Auth: sddm-helper exited successfully
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm-helper[634]: Adding cookie to "/home/ekaradon/.Xauthority"
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm-helper[629]: Starting: "/usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsession" "/usr/bin/startkde"
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm-helper[607]: [PAM] Ended.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Startup finished in 5ms.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Reached target Default.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Starting Default.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Reached target Basic System.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Starting Basic System.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Reached target Sockets.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Starting Sockets.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Reached target Timers.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Starting Timers.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Reached target Paths.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Starting Paths.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Config: set interface ap_scan to 1
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd-logind[297]: New session c8 of user ekaradon.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: pam_unix(systemd-user:session): session opened for user ekaradon by (uid=0)
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Activation (wlp5s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Config: added 'psk' value '<omitted>'
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'WPA-PSK'
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1'
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Config: added 'ssid' value 'Bbox-75F580'
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Activation (wlp5s0/wireless): connection 'Bbox-75F580' has security, and secrets exist.  No new secrets needed.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> (wlp5s0): device state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none') [40 50 0]
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Activation (wlp5s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Activation (wlp5s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Activation (wlp5s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> NetworkManager state is now CONNECTING
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> (wlp5s0): device state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Activation (wlp5s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Activation (wlp5s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Activation (wlp5s0) starting connection 'Bbox-75F580'
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet NetworkManager[293]: <info> Auto-activating connection 'Bbox-75F580'.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[1]: Cannot add dependency job for unit cups.socket, ignoring: Unit cups.socket failed to load: No such file or directory.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm-helper[629]: pam_unix(sddm:session): session opened for user ekaradon by (uid=0)
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: Message received from daemon: LoginSucceeded
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm[599]: Authenticated successfully
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm-helper[629]: [PAM] returning.
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm-helper[629]: [PAM] Conversation with 1 messages
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm-helper[629]: [PAM] Preparing to converse...
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm-helper[629]: [PAM] Authenticating...
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm-helper[629]: [PAM] Starting...
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm[599]: Reading from "plasma.desktop"
Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm[599]: Message received from greeter: Login
Nov 13 22:48:16 skynet systemd-logind[297]: Removed session c5.
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: Error getting screen brightness:  "The name org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement was not provided by any .service files"
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: Error getting battery remaining time:  "The name org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement was not provided by any .service files"
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: Message received from daemon: HostName
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: Message received from daemon: Capabilities
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: file:///usr/share/sddm/themes/breeze/components/InfoPane.qml:47: TypeError: Cannot read property 'Is Power Supply' of undefined
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: QObject::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::Device::Changed()
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: QObject::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::Device::Changed()
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: QObject::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::Device::Changed()
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: QObject::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceRemoved(QString)
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: QObject::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceAdded(QString)
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/lib/sddm/.cache/ksycoca5"
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet kdeinit5[623]: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/lib/sddm/.cache/ksycoca5"
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet kded5[618]: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/lib/sddm/.cache/ksycoca5"
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet kbuildsycoca5[625]: Emitting notifyDatabaseChanged ()
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet kbuildsycoca5[625]: timestamps check ok
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet kbuildsycoca5[625]: checking file timestamps
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet kbuildsycoca5[625]: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/lib/sddm/.cache/ksycoca5"
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet org.kde.kded5[616]: kbuildsycoca5 running...
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet kdeinit5[622]: KXMessages used on non-X11 platform! This is an application bug.
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet kdeinit5[622]: KXMessages used on non-X11 platform! This is an application bug.
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet kdeinit5[623]: Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet kdeinit5[623]: Qt: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet kded5[618]: klauncher not running... launching kdeinit
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet kded5[618]: Qt: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: QObject::installEventFilter(): Cannot filter events for objects in a different thread.
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a different thread.
                                          (Parent is SDDM::GreeterApp(0x7fff217ca370), parent's thread is QThread(0x88ce80), current thread is QThread(0x8bec00)
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: QObject::installEventFilter(): Cannot filter events for objects in a different thread.
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a different thread.
                                          (Parent is SDDM::GreeterApp(0x7fff217ca370), parent's thread is QThread(0x88ce80), current thread is QThread(0x8bec00)
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Message received from greeter: Connect
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-greeter[609]: Connected to the daemon.
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Greeter session started successfully
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet systemd-logind[297]: New session c7 of user sddm.
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-helper[607]: pam_unix(sddm-greeter:session): session opened for user sddm by (uid=0)
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-helper[607]: [PAM] returning.
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-helper[607]: [PAM] Authenticating...
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm-helper[607]: [PAM] Starting...
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Greeter starting...
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Socket server started.
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Socket server starting...
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Display server started.
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Running display setup script  "/usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsetup"
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Signal received: SIGUSR1
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Running: /usr/bin/X :0 -auth /var/run/sddm/:0 -nolisten tcp -background none -noreset vt1
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Display server starting...
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Adding cookie to "/var/run/sddm/:0"
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Adding new display 0 on vt 1 ...
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Starting...
Nov 13 22:48:14 skynet sddm[599]: Initializing...

A lot of errors inside. However, I do not see which one shut the opening session process.

clfarron4

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

since yesterday's "pacman -Syu " thing, i have a very laggy plasma desktop, it takes about 10-20 sec to open an application, anyone experiencing the same annoyance ?

Not really. That said, I only have the minimum installed to get Plasma 5 Desktop working, not the other KDE bits (because I'm typically a GTK environment person).

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jiehong

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

@Ekaradon

I was checking with my journalctl output, and till the following line:

Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm[599]: Session started

It seems pretty identical.

But then, kdeinit5 fires up, but not for you.
What seems strange, is:

Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm[599]: Auth: sddm-helper exited with 1

And also, who was 650? Because of this line:

Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Received SIGRTMIN+24 from PID 650 (kill).

iuno

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Registered: 2014-08-09

Posts: 42

Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Hi,
I have plasma-desktop installed (official, not from aur) with all its deps. Window borders are completely missing (title bar is missing as well). There might be a package missing? I already removed all config files (using a test user, I deleted the whole home dir). Un- and reinstalling all packages did not help as well. I also tried 'kwin_x11 --replace' with no success

arojas

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Registered: 2011-10-09

Posts: 2,102

Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Hi,
I have plasma-desktop installed (official, not from aur) with all its deps. Window borders are completely missing (title bar is missing as well). There might be a package missing? I already removed all config files (using a test user, I deleted the whole home dir). Un- and reinstalling all packages did not help as well. I also tried 'kwin_x11 --replace' with no success

Do you have oxygen installed?

iuno

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

I have now that was it, thank you very much!
Weird thing (for me) is, it was installed before... I had the borders but had another problem with bogus EDID info, so I uninstalled plasma some time ago. After solving this and reinstalling plasma, oxygen was not installed. Why is oxygen no dependency of plasma-next or breeze or something?

Ekaradon

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Posts: 44

Re: KF 5 & Plasma

@Ekaradon

I was checking with my journalctl output, and till the following line:

Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm[599]: Session started

It seems pretty identical.

But then, kdeinit5 fires up, but not for you.
What seems strange, is:

Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet sddm[599]: Auth: sddm-helper exited with 1

And also, who was 650? Because of this line:

Nov 13 22:48:19 skynet systemd[630]: Received SIGRTMIN+24 from PID 650 (kill).

I tried again this evening, and get something similar except I get no SIGRTMIN+24 this time (cannot say which process was behind).

Nov 14 21:26:31 skynet sudo[987]: ekaradon : TTY=tty2 ; PWD=/home/ekaradon ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/journalctl -r
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet systemd-logind[280]: Removed session c10.
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm[941]: Auth: sddm-helper exited with 1
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm-helper[971]: [PAM] Ended.
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm[941]: Greeter stopped.
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm[941]: Auth: sddm-helper exited successfully
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm-helper[949]: [PAM] Ended.
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm[941]: Session started
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm-helper[973]: Adding cookie to "/home/ekaradon/.Xauthority"
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm-helper[971]: Starting: "/usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsession" "/usr/bin/startkde"
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet systemd-logind[280]: New session c10 of user ekaradon.
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm-helper[971]: pam_unix(sddm:session): session opened for user ekaradon by (uid=0)
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm-greeter[951]: Message received from daemon: LoginSucceeded
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm[941]: Authenticated successfully
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm-helper[971]: [PAM] returning.
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm-helper[971]: [PAM] Conversation with 1 messages
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm-helper[971]: [PAM] Preparing to converse...
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm-helper[971]: [PAM] Authenticating...
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm-helper[971]: [PAM] Starting...
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm[941]: Reading from "plasma.desktop"
Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm[941]: Message received from greeter: Login

I do not know whether it is a normal behaviour to have sddm-helper ending in this way?

Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet sddm-helper[971]: [PAM] Ended.

However, you say that you have kdeinit5 firing up and not me. So I should look in this way.
The thing I want to confirm is that the following action:

Nov 14 21:26:26 skynet systemd-logind[280]: Removed session c10.

is done because kde5 is not using the new created session. In the other case, it would mean that my session is crushed by systemd and then it stops kde starting process.

I have found something which seems similar to my issue there:
https://plus.google.com/+StefanGremm/posts/gMAricd3VAW
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/42552

I am going to try again and deleting .Xauthority from my home directory.

EDIT: It did not help.

Last edited by Ekaradon (2014-11-14 21:14:22)

pepedopolous

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Hi I've tried finding bugs on KF5's Icon KCM and the toolbar icon size but no luck so far.

My problem has been that I have to go to kdeglobals to change the toolbar (actually maintoolbar) icon size.

Right clicking on a toolbar and choosing 'Icon Size' only provides the option 'Default' which is tiny (22). The KCM doesn't work as the dropdown menus don't work. So in the end I edited kdeglobals and changed the icon size to 48, which looks decent on my 1080p screen.

Cheers,

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Kleinermann9

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Hi!

Are there any future plans when Archlinux will move completly to Plasma 5?

arojas

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Are there any future plans when Archlinux will move completly to Plasma 5?

What does "move completely to Plasma 5" mean? Plasma 5 is already in [extra], you can install it if you want.

clfarron4

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Are there any future plans when Archlinux will move completly to Plasma 5?

What does "move completely to Plasma 5" mean? Plasma 5 is already in [extra], you can install it if you want.

Perhaps Kleinermann9 is referring to the other two parts of KDE 5, that is KDE Frameworks 5 and KDE Applications 5?

Last edited by clfarron4 (2014-11-19 21:03:59)

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Well, the Archwiki got an answer for you:

• The Frameworks 5 libraries are available in the official repositories as kf5 and kf5-aids.

• The Plasma 5 workspace is available in the official repositories as plasma-next.

• Applications based on KF5 will have a first release in December 2014. You may also find various other Frameworks 5 enabled applications in the AUR.

2handband

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

I've just in the past 24 hours installed arch with plasma next on two machines, a desktop box and a laptop. I had some problems with the first install due to bring an idiot and not installing the right display drivers, but other than that I can tell you that so far kde 5.1 works great on a clean installation. Both of these are production machines that get heavy daily use, so I'll be posting about any bugs/problems I encounter and any workarounds I find. Btw this also marks my return to arch after a two year absence; nice to be back!

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Box0

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

hello Plasma 5 early adopters

Could someone that is using Plasma 5 please check if the top menu thing (the one we have in KDE 4, where you push the cursor over the top of the screen and the menubar of the current application appears) is/is not available?

thank you.

clfarron4

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

hello Plasma 5 early adopters

Could someone that is using Plasma 5 please check if the top menu thing (the one we have in KDE 4, where you push the cursor over the top of the screen and the menubar of the current application appears) is/is not available?

thank you.

Appmenu/Globalmenu?

Looks like it's there, just doesn't work or isn't enabled by default in Plasma 5.

https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=121888
https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=122896

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

I just installed Arch and KF5 + Plasma 5 + SDDM on an old desktop. I found I also had to manually install Xorg and related packages, as they were not included as dependencies. Is there a reason for that or should this be reported? Very good dependency definition is one of the things I usually appreciate most of Archlinux.

EDIT: I've read some reports (also on the wiki) which suggest to install applications (e.g. Dolphin, Kate) specifically for KF5 from AUR. I've not had problems so far with applications from the official repos, such as Dolphin, Kate, Kwrite and DragonPlayer. They don't require kdebase-workspace to be installed after all, and they seem to work well. Is there something wrong in this?

Last edited by OdinEidolon (2014-11-24 09:04:43)

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todorov

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Hello,
As of today i cannot start plasma next as a normal user.
When i log in as root everything is ok.
When i try to log in with my username, the loading screen freezes at around 80%, the plasma cursor apears and thats all.

Here are my xsession-errors
http://pastebin.com/c3xFMBrw
http://pastebin.com/YMW8Szk8 (root)

Can someone please assist me, thanks.

Last edited by todorov (2014-11-24 10:09:19)

arojas

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

I've read some reports (also on the wiki) which suggest to install applications (e.g. Dolphin, Kate) specifically for KF5 from AUR. I've not had problems so far with applications from the official repos, such as Dolphin, Kate, Kwrite and DragonPlayer. They don't require kdebase-workspace to be installed after all, and they seem to work well. Is there something wrong in this?

Nothing at all. In fact, most KF5 apps are still under heavy development and not yet ready for use in production.

mrunion

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Is there a reason for that or should this be reported?

I would assume it's because KF5 is not ready for prime-time, and if the dependencies are changes it could lead to problems with other packages right now. But this is only a guess.

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OdinEidolon

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Is there a reason for that or should this be reported?

I would assume it's because KF5 is not ready for prime-time, and if the dependencies are changes it could lead to problems with other packages right now. But this is only a guess.

Well for a while at least Xorg is going to be a dependency I guess. KDE not going to drop X for a long time.

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V1del

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

KDE4 doesn't have a direct dependency either (in fact none of the DEs do, only some DMs like gdm and lxdm) so maybe its some historical thing, other than that you are supposed to be able to run wayland with these packages somewhere down the line so a direct dependency wouldn't be favorable anyway at most an opt, which wouldn't be automatically installed. And you'd still have to install drivers separately anyway.

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