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#1 2014-08-01 16:45:11

zivziv
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Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

I'm not able to login using Skype 4.2 - it's saying unable to connect. Removing shared.xml does not help.
Skype 4.3, however, is working fine except for the fact it does not support ALSA meaning no audio for me. Too bad, but it seems the only option now is to start installing and configuring PulseAudio...

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#2 2014-08-01 17:10:35

Luyan
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

Same problem here. I use 'skype42' from AUR. It seems that judgment day has come. sad

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#3 2014-08-01 22:56:55

mkoskar
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

local/skype42 4.2.0.13-4
    P2P software for high-quality voice communication

works fine for me (as of know).

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#4 2014-08-02 17:41:24

emeres
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

@Luyan @zivziv You are both from the Russian Federation or located there, I assume. Could this be regional/national? RF just passed new internet laws, maybe Skype made changes in RF network. Have you tried using a proxy? I do not use Skype myself any more and know little about its protocol and network, so this just speculation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/rus … story.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28583669
http://www.windows9update.com/2014/04/n … n-country/

Note: I am not bringing politics into play, just providing information.

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#5 2014-08-02 20:18:44

kleinepanzer
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

RF, 4.2, can't connect. Damn it.

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#6 2014-08-02 20:45:31

emeres
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

There should be enough tutorials how to circumcise this, especially in Chinese (Skype worked with PRCs government to monitor its users). I would ask Skype directly or look for any official statements.

Last edited by emeres (2014-08-02 20:47:20)

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#7 2014-08-03 07:57:59

brebs
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

It happened to me, and I'm nowhere near Russia wink

Here's the community announcement.

The only solution is to upgrade to skype 4.3.0.37, which requires pulseaudio for audio to work sad

Personally, I installed pulseaudio "just enough", only on 32-bit (multilib), not on 64-bit (skype is 32-bit only), with the crucial lines in /etc/pulse/default.pa:

load-module module-alsa-sink device=dmixed
load-module module-alsa-source device=dmixed

Those are using the custom ~/.asoundrc as in my sig.

And in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/91-pulseaudio.sh, to start 32-bit pulseaudio along with (64-bit multilib) xorg:

PATH="/usr/bin32:$PATH" start-pulseaudio-x11

That's a *custom* multilib setup - amend the path for your distro accordingly wink

So now I have a tolerably minimal installation of pulseaudio (to satisfy skype), while ALSA remains in primary control of sound smile

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#8 2014-08-03 10:04:25

emeres
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

brebs wrote:
load-module module-alsa-sink device=dmixed
load-module module-alsa-source device=dmixed

This works for brebs, because of ~/.asoundrc in his signature to which he refers, where pcm.dmixed is an asym consisting of dmix and hw for capture. The default setup could refer to:

load-module module-alsa-sink device=dmix
load-module module-alsa-source device=dsnoop

Maximum number of channels for dmix could/should probably be set, similar to pcm.dmixed, so 'pcm.dmix.slave.channels 8;' for example. I do not remember if pa does that on its own.

It is understandable the developer phases out older versions, however Skype just wants to satisfy their customers so much, it drives them away. This scenario is still better than what I suggested, hopefully it will never come to that, even though I am against [using] that sniffling piece of code.

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#9 2014-08-06 09:38:27

Luyan
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

After several painful days with pulseaudio I decided to move back to ALSA. brebs, emeres, thank you for your answers.

brebs wrote:

Personally, I installed pulseaudio "just enough", only on 32-bit (multilib), not on 64-bit (skype is 32-bit only), with the crucial lines in /etc/pulse/default.pa:

I think this will be the solution for me too. But I am not sure that I will be able to install pulseaudio-5.0-1-i686 from official repos on my 64bit system.
Where you have found such multilib package? Or you have created your own custom package? (via ABS)

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#10 2014-08-06 10:06:57

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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

I also dabbled with pulseaudio just to get Skype audio working and failed. I'm not prepared to put in any more time on this so I've uninstalled Skype for good. 4.2 was working so well too.

There are plenty of simple WebRTC options for my overseas relatives to use with me, I'm done with having to have Skype just "because everyone else uses it".


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#11 2014-08-06 12:28:32

emeres
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

@fabertawe Tox looks promising, just went alpha recently. I would have hoped more people would have abandoned Skype for ethical reasons, obviously wrong expectations from my side.

@Luyan After checking the packages for both architectures from official repositories, it seems that exactly the same files are being used in exactly the same directory structure, their content differs however. I guess brebs uses arch32, something similar or his own manual 32-bit environment solution, since pulseaudio (libpulse to be exact) has some dependencies.

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#12 2014-08-06 15:04:47

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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

@emeres - I've been keeping an eye on Tox for a while now but the problem I have is getting relatives to use anything other than Skype and believe me I've tried! The WebRTC option is simply opening a link in the browser for them... although I suspect I will get protestations from my Father on the difficulty of even this!

I'm totally with you on the ethical reasons for ditching Skype btw. Again though, it's been Skype or nothing with the relations thus far. This time I've had enough and it actually feels like a joyous relief to nuke Skype from my life finally smile


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#13 2014-08-06 18:39:20

brebs
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

My whole *distro* is custom, compiled by me wink

I compile pulseaudio using some multi-lib scripts that I've made, which are shared across many multi-lib packages, which boil down to:

PATH="/usr/bin32:$PATH" LDFLAGS="-O2 -Wl,-O1 -L/usr/lib32" ./configure CC=i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc CXX=i686-pc-linux-gnu-c++ LD="/usr/bin32/ld" AS="/usr/bin32/as" CFLAGS="-O2 -march=core2" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=core2" --libdir=/usr/lib32 --bindir=/usr/bin32 --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr &&
PATH="/usr/bin32:$PATH" make &&
PATH="/usr/bin32:$PATH" make install

For CC and CXX, you could use instead:

CC="gcc -m32" CXX="g++ -m32"

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#14 2014-08-06 18:51:04

Clouseau
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

I'm really anoyed with MS since they got their fingers on skype. I have been using arch without pulseaudio for years and now I should install it and enable it just because of Skype? Why do I even need pulseaudio, plain alsa works, multistreaming works so why then? Probably after install gonna loose my hair to make it work like I want to.  Is there a workaround for skype without pulseaudio? Is there any other chat client for linux that can talk skype protocol(99.99% it isn't)?

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#15 2014-08-06 19:04:01

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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

Clouseau wrote:

I'm really anoyed with MS since they got their fingers on skype. I have been using arch without pulseaudio for years and now I should install it and enable it just because of Skype? Why do I even need pulseaudio, plain alsa works, multistreaming works so why then? Probably after install gonna loose my hair to make it work like I want to.  Is there a workaround for skype without pulseaudio? Is there any other chat client for linux that can talk skype protocol(99.99% it isn't)?

There is no other messaging program that I am aware of that can do Skype voice and video.  You can get a plugin for Pidgin that does text chat but that is it.  It has come up before, but if you can convince your contacts to surf to: Talky then that provides a standards-based method for video and audio chat via WebRTC - it just works in modern browsers.  Be aware that the participants in the conversation will need a webcam that does both video and audio for it.

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#16 2014-08-06 19:11:18

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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

zivziv wrote:

I'm not able to login using Skype 4.2 - it's saying unable to connect. Removing shared.xml does not help.
Too bad, but it seems the only option now is to start installing and configuring PulseAudio...

Yeah, I have gone down that road. PulseAudio has not been a pleasant experience but Skype 4.2 is compatible. My colleagues using Mac and Windows were not being able to add me to groups. So, I had to move to 4.3.


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#17 2014-08-06 19:19:17

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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/ So basically if I wanna do stuff that 99% of linux desktop users don't do including me, PulseAudio is great. But it should be understanded as an upgrade or an option not the way to go. I blame MS for that. I guess linux version of skype is a burden for them because maintaining alsa support is a time consuming process big_smile

Next step: Ads on linux smile

Last edited by Clouseau (2014-08-06 19:20:12)

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#18 2014-08-06 19:41:32

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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

Enough of the moaning and ranting. Pulse is fine. Skype is redundant anyway now that WebRTC works.


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#19 2014-08-06 22:32:34

Unia
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

For what it's worth, you don't really need to have a 32bit version of pulseaudio (afaik, at least). The information required to get Skype 4.3 running with pulse while leaving the rest of your system untouched, can already be found in the wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pu … are_device

Please do correct me if I'm wrong wink


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#20 2014-08-07 07:21:37

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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

Unia, please actually READ this thread, before polluting it with incorrect garbage.

Looks like MS are also blocking old Mac versions. With a firewall workaround of blocking ui.skype.com

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#21 2014-08-07 08:35:33

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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

Eh, what? I have read the thread. I use a 64bit system myself, with a Skype package from multilib. Before going through the hassle to compile a 32bit pulseaudio package I tried the 64bit one from the repos with the information from the wiki I linked to. As far as I can see, Skype is the only package using pulseaudio, the rest still uses alsa directly.

What exactly am I misunderstanding? In case it's not clear, I was also a skype42 user and I too do not want pulse running for the rest of my system.


If you can't sit by a cozy fire with your code in hand enjoying its simplicity and clarity, it needs more work. --Carlos Torres

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#22 2014-08-07 19:30:16

fijit
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

I just tried the linked workaround for mac, and it allowed me to connect again with 4.2 on linux. Does this work for anyone else?

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#23 2014-08-10 19:29:18

matersci
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

fijit wrote:

I just tried the linked workaround for mac, and it allowed me to connect again with 4.2 on linux. Does this work for anyone else?

Didn't work for me. I added
127.0.0.1    ui.skype.com
in /etc/hosts but again skype won't connect.

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#24 2014-08-10 21:33:27

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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

Skype on arch right now appears to be 4.3.


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#25 2014-08-12 20:02:27

mid-kid
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Re: Skype 4.2 not supported anymore?

nomorewindows wrote:

Skype on arch right now appears to be 4.3.

People kept the old version because the new one requires pulseaudio.

As for fixing it, seems like no one's got a perfect solution.
The announcement thread is a pit of swears against microsoft/skype, and there are several threads asking for ALSA support.
We could try to work our way around version checking, but even then they can have disabled the protocol for this version.
We will porbably have to wait and hope for ALSA support.


If it ain't broke, you haven't tweaked it enough.

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