[SOLVED] How do I Auto-boot Gummiboot Instead of Windows?

philomathean · 2014-08-08 04:38:35

As the title statess, I'm simply trying to get Gummiboot to load first when I turn on my computer. Currently, if I turn my laptop on, it will boot into Windows 8.1. If I go into boot options prior to letting Windows start, then I'm able to select Gummiboot and load into Arch just fine. How can I automate this?

lsblk -f
NAME   FSTYPE LABEL   UUID                                 MOUNTPOINT
sda                                                        
├─sda1 vfat           215C-A2CF                            /boot
├─sda2 vfat           4A1A-307C                            
├─sda3                                                     
├─sda4 ntfs   Windows A68A20F08A20BEA5                     
├─sda5 ext4           63976e2b-d370-4b80-aeb2-1bca6e1c83f5 /
├─sda6 swap           2eee5c63-3109-47b8-bfa6-62d4f56b531d [SWAP]
└─sda7 ext4           dd3b9d87-32de-4eaa-a7c5-fdc8924d9398 /home

/boot/loader/loader.conf

timeout 3
default arch
#e0b6029203a34ea79bd0bfe666772999-*

/boot/loader/entries/arch.conf

title		Arch Linux
linux		/vmlinuz-linux
initrd		/initramfs-linux.img
options		root=PARTUUID=15ec555a-c3a3-4d2f-b9a8-8df078c8994f rw

Last edited by philomathean (2014-08-16 06:28:32)

JoeMB · 2014-08-08 11:20:16

If changing the boot order hasn't worked, since gummiboot is a UEFI boot manager you might try reformatting boot as an EFI partition (ef00 in gdisk).

Last edited by JoeMB (2014-08-08 11:21:51)

loqs · 2014-08-08 12:15:41

JoeMB wrote:

If changing the boot order hasn't worked, since gummiboot is a UEFI boot manager you might try reformatting boot as an EFI partition (ef00 in gdisk).

Would it not be safer just to change the partition type if it is wrong ( no listing including that information such as fdisk -l is in the thread )
Formatting the ESP would also remove any Windows entries for the ESP ( again not enough information to know where Windows is booting from )

Head_on_a_Stick · 2014-08-08 22:38:19

@philomathean --- why do you have two EFI system partitions?
You should have mounted /boot to the VFAT partition already created by Windows...
The BIOS is booting the Windows EFI system partition & ignoring the one you created (containing /boot).
Re-mount /boot in the Windows ESP & re-install gummiboot.

philomathean · 2014-08-11 00:57:21

Sorry for the very late response, but let me make sure I understand.

Would the easiest way to do this be booting from an Arch USB, mounting sda2 as boot, then re-installing gummiboot?

Thanks for the help everybody!

anatolik · 2014-08-11 01:35:58

You can change the boot order via UEFI firmware UI.

Another way to change the boot order is to use efibootmgr tool.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2014-08-11 10:07:56

philomathean wrote:

Would the easiest way to do this be booting from an Arch USB, mounting sda2 as boot, then re-installing gummiboot?

Gummiboot will only offer a menu entry for Windows if it is installed in the same partition as the Windows bootloader.
Which is the original (Windows-generated) EFI system partition?
If it is sda2, you need to copy /boot to there, add an entry to fstab to reflect this, then (arch-)chroot into the installation & run gummiboot install...

swordfeng · 2014-08-11 13:37:30

Are you sure that you are using a UEFI boot?
It seems that no partition is labeled ESP.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2014-08-11 17:04:36

^ Gummiboot will not install successfully unless the computer is booted in EFI-mode.

philomathean · 2014-08-12 03:43:51

Ok, backtracking a little and I'm trying to make sure my laptop is actually UEFI. It's an HP Envy Sleekbook M6 with AMD A10, if it matters.

Here's what I get when I first go into system settings on boot, which makes me think it's BIOS.
Boot Options

But then in BIOS Options, it has UEFI Boot Order.
BIOS Options

How can I tell which my system is? I want to make sure before making any changes but I'm having difficulty finding much on the topic (which I'm sure has to have been discussed before)

Device         Start        End    Sectors   Size Type
/dev/sda1       2048     821247     819200   400M EFI System
/dev/sda2     821248    1353727     532480   260M Microsoft basic data
/dev/sda3    1353728    1615871     262144   128M Microsoft reserved
/dev/sda4    1615872  316191329  314575458   150G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sda5  316191330  389576703   73385374    35G Linux filesystem
/dev/sda6  389578260  402161171   12582912     6G Linux swap
/dev/sda7  402161664 1465147391 1062985728 506.9G Linux filesystem

Last edited by philomathean (2014-08-12 03:48:47)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2014-08-12 18:38:48

Run this:

efivar -l

If a long list of variables scrolls up the screen, you are booted in EFI-mode. Also, you will have a /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Un … _Interface
BTW, your EFI system partition is /dev/sda1 so /boot is mounted correctly...
Very strange, your system should be booting up into gummiboot --- do you have a menu entry for Windows when you boot up via gummiboot?
EDIT: from your BIOS screenshots, your computer is in EFI-mode (the "Legacy" mode is unselected).

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2014-08-12 18:48:49)

philomathean · 2014-08-13 02:26:36

"efivar -l" lists plenty of variables.

If I boot via gummiboot, all I get is: "Arch Linux", "Boot into Default EFI", and "Return to System Menu". If I choose Boot into Default EFI, it shows the same menu with only "Arch Linux" and "Return to System Menu".

Any suggestions?

midixinga · 2014-08-13 02:51:31

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

EDIT: from your BIOS screenshots, your computer is in EFI-mode (the "Legacy" mode is unselected).

You see that in the image ?

@ philomathean: could you please verify that legacy support is OFF !
and print all

gdisk /dev/sda

output

philomathean · 2014-08-13 03:24:21

Legacy Support was ON. I turned it off as well as Secure Boot, but boot behavior is unchanged.

sudo gdisk /dev/sda
GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.10

Partition table scan:
  MBR: protective
  BSD: not present
  APM: not present
  GPT: present

Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT.

Command (? for help): p
Disk /dev/sda: 1465149168 sectors, 698.6 GiB
Logical sector size: 512 bytes
Disk identifier (GUID): 0AA1A394-7A48-4F4D-A2A0-B75B4DE73082
Partition table holds up to 128 entries
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 1465149134
Partitions will be aligned on 8-sector boundaries
Total free space is 5805 sectors (2.8 MiB)

Number  Start (sector)    End (sector)  Size       Code  Name
   1            2048          821247   400.0 MiB   EF00  EFI System
   2          821248         1353727   260.0 MiB   0700  
   3         1353728         1615871   128.0 MiB   0C01  
   4         1615872       316191329   150.0 GiB   0700  
   5       316191330       389576703   35.0 GiB    8300  
   6       389578260       402161171   6.0 GiB     8200  
   7       402161664      1465147391   506.9 GiB   8300

midixinga · 2014-08-13 07:53:58

- Legacy Mode is off
- UEFI-Boot-Order is OS Manager at first position
- you have a GPT-Disk
- you have a /boot-mounted partition with vfat-filesystem and Type EFI
- /boot/EFI/Boot/BOOTX64.EFI exist
- /boot/EFI/gummiboot/gummibootx64.efi exist
- /boot/loader/loader.conf exist
- /boot/loader/entries/arch.conf exist

but it still starts Windows 8.1 ?

sorry I've no more ideas

I don't understand /dev/sda2 ? But I don't know windows

Last edited by midixinga (2014-08-13 07:59:52)

loqs · 2014-08-13 09:07:59

the output of

efibootmgr -v

if there is lots of output after the closing ')' something like

efibootmgr -v | cut -d \) -f 1

should make the output easier to read

Head_on_a_Stick · 2014-08-13 20:29:09

Just to check: did you install Windows first?
The only explanation I can think of is if you installed Arch first and then Windows...

philomathean · 2014-08-14 15:12:37

This computer came with Windows pre-installed and I installed Arch. I wiped /sda1 to use for /boot but I still don't know what /sda2 is for.

If it's relevant, I think I installed GRUB first, but had issues and opted to uninstall GRUB and go with Gummiboot. This did leave an ubuntu boot entry although I don't recall ever having ubuntu installed on this machine.

BootCurrent: 0007
Timeout: 0 seconds
BootOrder: 0004,3004,0005,0007,0008,2001,0000,0001,2002,2003
Boot0000* Network Adapter (IPv4 UEFI)	ACPI(a0341d0,0)PCI(4,0)PCI(0,0)MAC(MAC(6c3be58d62da,0)RC
Boot0001* Network Adapter (IPv6 UEFI)	ACPI(a0341d0,0)PCI(4,0)PCI(0,0)MAC(MAC(6c3be58d62da,0)030d3c000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004000000000000000000000000000000000RC
Boot0003* USB Hard Drive (UEFI) - PNY     USB 2.0 FD	ACPI(a0341d0,0)PCI(10,0)USB(3,0)HD(1,800,3cf0700,00032116)RC
Boot0004* Windows Boot Manager	HD(2,c8800,82000,1757c49b-b3b5-4201-b506-dcf15496be2a)File(\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi)WINDOWS.........x...B.C.D.O.B.J.E.C.T.=.{.9.d.e.a.8.6.2.c.-.5.c.d.d.-.4.e.7.0.-.a.c.c.1.-.f.3.2.b.3.4.4.d.4.7.9.5.}...a................
Boot0005* ubuntu	HD(2,c8800,82000,1757c49b-b3b5-4201-b506-dcf15496be2a)File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)
Boot0007* Linux Boot Manager	HD(1,800,c8000,52d738a5-fab3-401f-868e-53a3db7e8e39)File(\EFI\gummiboot\gummibootx64.efi)
Boot0008* EFI HDD Device (HGST HTS541075A9E680)	ACPI(a0341d0,0)PCI(11,0)ATAPI(0,0,0)HD(1,800,c8000,52d738a5-fab3-401f-868e-53a3db7e8e39)RC
Boot2001* USB Drive (UEFI)	RC
Boot3000* Internal Hard Disk or Solid State Disk	RC
Boot3002* Internal Hard Disk or Solid State Disk	RC
Boot3004* Internal Hard Disk or Solid State Disk	RC

loqs · 2014-08-14 15:41:42

This should put gummiboot (Boot0007) first then Windows Boot Manager second (Boot0004).
This leaves off all the other entries.

efibootmgr -o 7,4

philomathean · 2014-08-14 16:08:43

efibootmgr -o 7,4

gave me an error "Invalid boot order: 7,4" so I successfully ran

efibootmgr -o 0007,0004

Afterwards, this was my output:

efibootmgr -v
BootCurrent: 0007
Timeout: 0 seconds
BootOrder: 0007,0004
Boot0000* Network Adapter (IPv4 UEFI)	ACPI(a0341d0,0)PCI(4,0)PCI(0,0)MAC(MAC(6c3be58d62da,0)RC
Boot0001* Network Adapter (IPv6 UEFI)	ACPI(a0341d0,0)PCI(4,0)PCI(0,0)MAC(MAC(6c3be58d62da,0)030d3c000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004000000000000000000000000000000000RC
Boot0003* USB Hard Drive (UEFI) - PNY     USB 2.0 FD	ACPI(a0341d0,0)PCI(10,0)USB(3,0)HD(1,800,3cf0700,00032116)RC
Boot0004* Windows Boot Manager	HD(2,c8800,82000,1757c49b-b3b5-4201-b506-dcf15496be2a)File(\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi)WINDOWS.........x...B.C.D.O.B.J.E.C.T.=.{.9.d.e.a.8.6.2.c.-.5.c.d.d.-.4.e.7.0.-.a.c.c.1.-.f.3.2.b.3.4.4.d.4.7.9.5.}...a................
Boot0005* ubuntu	HD(2,c8800,82000,1757c49b-b3b5-4201-b506-dcf15496be2a)File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)
Boot0007* Linux Boot Manager	HD(1,800,c8000,52d738a5-fab3-401f-868e-53a3db7e8e39)File(\EFI\gummiboot\gummibootx64.efi)
Boot0008* EFI HDD Device (HGST HTS541075A9E680)	ACPI(a0341d0,0)PCI(11,0)ATAPI(0,0,0)HD(1,800,c8000,52d738a5-fab3-401f-868e-53a3db7e8e39)RC
Boot2001* USB Drive (UEFI)	RC
Boot3000* Internal Hard Disk or Solid State Disk	RC
Boot3002* Internal Hard Disk or Solid State Disk	RC
Boot3004* Internal Hard Disk or Solid State Disk	RC

However, when I rebooted, it still booted into Windows. Got back into Arch and now "efibootmgr -v" outputs:

BootCurrent: 0007
Timeout: 0 seconds
BootOrder: 0004,3004,0002,0007,0008,2001,0003,0005,2002,2003
Boot0000* USB Hard Drive (UEFI) - PNY     USB 2.0 FD	ACPI(a0341d0,0)PCI(10,0)USB(3,0)HD(1,800,3cf0700,00032116)RC
Boot0002* ubuntu	HD(2,c8800,82000,1757c49b-b3b5-4201-b506-dcf15496be2a)File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)RC
Boot0003* Network Adapter (IPv4 UEFI)	ACPI(a0341d0,0)PCI(4,0)PCI(0,0)MAC(MAC(6c3be58d62da,0)RC
Boot0004* Windows Boot Manager	HD(2,c8800,82000,1757c49b-b3b5-4201-b506-dcf15496be2a)File(\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi)WINDOWS.........x...B.C.D.O.B.J.E.C.T.=.{.9.d.e.a.8.6.2.c.-.5.c.d.d.-.4.e.7.0.-.a.c.c.1.-.f.3.2.b.3.4.4.d.4.7.9.5.}...a................
Boot0005* Network Adapter (IPv6 UEFI)	ACPI(a0341d0,0)PCI(4,0)PCI(0,0)MAC(MAC(6c3be58d62da,0)030d3c000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004000000000000000000000000000000000RC
Boot0007* Linux Boot Manager	HD(1,800,c8000,52d738a5-fab3-401f-868e-53a3db7e8e39)File(\EFI\gummiboot\gummibootx64.efi)
Boot0008* EFI HDD Device (HGST HTS541075A9E680)	ACPI(a0341d0,0)PCI(11,0)ATAPI(0,0,0)HD(1,800,c8000,52d738a5-fab3-401f-868e-53a3db7e8e39)RC
Boot2001* USB Drive (UEFI)	RC
Boot3000* Internal Hard Disk or Solid State Disk	RC
Boot3002* Internal Hard Disk or Solid State Disk	RC
Boot3004* Internal Hard Disk or Solid State Disk	RC
Boot3007* Internal Hard Disk or Solid State Disk	RC

Basically, it seems the boot info reverted after I shutdown. Any ideas on how to make this persistent? Thanks for all the help so far as I'm truly stumped.

midixinga · 2014-08-14 16:33:27

Ok, I Learned "OS Bootloader" in your UEFI is NOT your Linux Bootloader :-(

Maybe this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bo … leshooting ?

loqs · 2014-08-14 16:37:26

Seems similar to this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=171673 and http://reboot.pro/topic/19363-efibootmg … rmanently/
From the above this should make gummiboot the default for the next boot only and should work

efibootmgr -n 0007

Does this code to disable the Windows Boot Manager entry and make gummiboot the sole loader in the list persist after reboot? (It should leave the Windows entry intact just disabled)

efibootmgr -A 0004
efibootmgr -o 0007

Hopefully others may have more suggestions / experience with this issue.
Edit:
Furhter to midixinga's good find
From http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloader … iples.html
EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi is tried as a hard coded fallback possibly before EFI/Microsoft/BOOT/bootmgfw.efi
So copying EFI/gummiboot/gummibootx64.efi to EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi might cause the bios to load gummiboot first if it is ignoring the EFI vars in favor of a hardcoded list and leave EFI/Microsoft/BOOT/bootmgfw.efi intact
Edit2:
I would recommend having the arch live media to hand in case the following leaves your system failing to boot so you can revert the change
If you as a temporary measure renamed bootmgfw.efi to bootmgfw.old or otherwise changed it so the bios could not find it does that cause it to move onto the next entry that should be gummiboot

Last edited by loqs (2014-08-14 16:59:46)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2014-08-14 17:22:13

philomathean wrote:

This computer came with Windows pre-installed and I installed Arch. I wiped /sda1 to use for /boot but I still don't know what /sda2 is for.

I think this may be your problem --- the advice with EFI machines is to share the EFI system partition created by Windows, you have not done this...
As to the efibootmgr entries: the Ubuntu entry persists because you have a /boot/EFI/ubuntu/ folder.
Not sure why the other efibootmgr settings do not stick though.

philomathean · 2014-08-14 17:39:19

Ok, to summarize my recent attempts, I tried disabling the Windows partition ("efibootmgr -A -b 0004") and changing boot order with "efibootmgr -o 0007" and the executed successfully, but didn't persist when I rebooted.

I tried "efibootmgr -n 0007" and even that didn't run properly - I still booted straight into Windows.

Just for good measure, here's my boot directory:

Contents:
EFI > Boot > BOOTX64.EFI
EFI > Gummiboot > gummibootx64.efi
loader > entries > arch.conf
loader > loader.conf

There isn't any ubuntu folder in the directory. The above files are everything under /boot/
There isn't an EFI/Microsoft folder, which seems troubling as well.

I did try copying gummibootx64.efi into EFI/Boot/ and renaming BOOTX64.EFI to BOOTX64.EFI.backup and renaming gummibootx64.efi to BOOTx64.EFI
This didn't change the boot order, but it did give me an extra entry when I went into System Menu on startup (it gave me an extra boot entry, but it only loaded an error message).

I'm gonna try some tweaking on the Windows side as detailed here.

P.S. I always try to keep a USB with Arch loaded for emergencies

loqs · 2014-08-14 17:47:26

Boot0004* Windows Boot Manager	HD(2,c8800,82000,1757c49b-b3b5-4201-b506-dcf15496be2a)File(\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi)WINDOWS.........x...B.C.D.O.B.J.E.C.T.=.{.9.d.e.a.8.6.2.c.-.5.c.d.d.-.4.e.7.0.-.a.c.c.1.-.f.3.2.b.3.4.4.d.4.7.9.5.}...a................
Boot0007* Linux Boot Manager	HD(1,800,c8000,52d738a5-fab3-401f-868e-53a3db7e8e39)File(\EFI\gummiboot\gummibootx64.efi)

From the HD(2, I would look on sda2 for \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
Edit:
The two ESPs could be the cause of the issue

Last edited by loqs (2014-08-14 17:51:22)

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