Gnome 2.14 Release

_Gandalf_ · 2006-03-19 07:10:37

@Blaasvis i did some work on networkmanager, fixed some things for the newest version, it might save u some time, take a look at it, http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?p=150290#150290 though am having some issues...

alexthelion · 2006-03-19 11:21:30

Just wanted to ask how you guys start gnome-volume-manager. I do it by adding it to the startup programs in Gnome's session configuration. This is now how it should be though, no?

If I understood it correctly, one new thing in Gnome 2.14's gnome-session is that it scans /opt/gnome/share/autostart for .desktop files and starts those applications. Earlier builds of gnome-volume-manager actually did write a file there. The newest one doesn't do anymore. No change for me, because it never worked anyway.

Also beagle, there is a GUI option in beagles configuration that doesn't do anything i think. i don't know what beagle is supposed to do upon changing this, but writing/deleting a file to ~/.autostart would be an option.

Blaasvis · 2006-03-19 12:02:13

i made both gnome-volume-manager and beagle start automagical when you are using gnome.
both have .desktop files in /opt/gnome/share/gnome/autostart/

also i am checking in gnome 2.14 to testing right now,..

Blaasvis · 2006-03-19 15:03:41

the gnome 2.13 repo is now official dead, please switch to testing.

kr · 2006-03-19 19:53:44

No sound-juicer package in testing. It used to be in 2.13 repo.

Gullible Jones · 2006-03-19 22:24:13

Ack, all kinds of weird stuff. The gstreamer0.10-plugins group doesn't contain all the plugins, the "bad" plugins ( very useful) aren't there, Goobox should use GST 0.10 not 0.8... Well, here go the bug reports.

kr · 2006-03-19 22:43:55

I think gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg also should be included and last but not least new totem-plugin for firefox/mozilla (based on gst 0.10 and totem 1.4) is missing.

Gullible Jones · 2006-03-20 02:08:50

Yup, righto... Gah. This is getting a bit annoying, especially what with archlinux.org constantly going down while I try to submit bug reports. :x

pressh · 2006-03-20 22:02:46

what's wrong with avahi ?

[root@pressh_box ronald]# avahi-daemon
cap_set_proc() failed: Operation not permitted

Global Havok · 2006-03-21 00:26:58

Power manager seems to only update the icon when i either plug in the ac adapter or remove the adapter. Makes it hard to keep an eye on how much battery power i have.

Gullible Jones · 2006-03-21 00:58:13

And some toolbar and menu icons (Home, Computer, Network, etc.) aren't replaced when you switch to a different icon theme, even after restarting Gnome. Did they change the naming scheme for icons in this release?

nam1000 · 2006-03-21 21:01:19

I like the many speed improvements, especially when it comes to painting things on the screen (gdm, startup, gnome-terminal, thumbnailing in nautilus feel quite a bit faster) and the new features and applications I had been waiting for, such as editing remote files in Gedit, gnome-screensaver, FUSA

The transitition is not too difficult, and I have encountered only a couple of minor problems. A few are listed below, together with some comments:

1- transparent panels display black areas where a separator is expected, I don't know if this is gtk or the panel itself
2- quite a few untranslated strings in my locale (fr); I don't know if this has to do with the new glibc, gtk, or Gnome itself
3- hall seems to be passing more information to nautilus than before, so that I end up having nautilus display my home partitition as a volume
4- some files don't have the right icon in nautilus (e.g. html displayed as text)
5- a dialog window appears and disappears immediately when some apps are launched
6- rhythmbox: I find the interface now more cluttered and less intuitive
7- I find the new search interface in nautilus confusing, and slower than gnome-search-tool, which I've always liked very much; does it use locate at all?
8- a minor point: what to think of the shutdown / logout dialog? It's not that bad, but wasn't the previous one easier to understand?

A few bug reports, both on Arch and elsewhere, were opened for some of these problems (e.g. 1, 3, 5).

Any solution or info for these problems? Any general thought on Gnome 2.14 so far?

Gullible Jones · 2006-03-22 02:35:17

General thoughts? Well, it's a bit better, but GStreamer 0.10 doesn't seem quite as good as I thought it would be, Metacity still needs a lot of work (my machine is a pretty fast one, and windows leave obvious trails when dragged over each other), Epiphany needs heavy modification (history, certificates, cookies, and cache should all be available in *one* configuration panel, more tab config options are needed, it should be possible to turn off annoying popup notifications, etc.)... And it's a bit buggy - for example, menus don't update after installing new apps without logging out and in again (even with FAM, gamin, or inotify).

Also, there are some annoying changes to required icon sizes, which a) make certain icon themes stop working completely and b) should not apply to SVG icons, but do anyway.

iphitus · 2006-03-22 03:25:44

As for menus, you can kill `pgrep gnome-panel` and that will restart gnome panel with the new menus.

iphitus

clarence · 2006-03-22 05:06:08

I must be magic, I've had no problems with the 2.14 upgrade.

Thanks Devs

kr · 2006-03-22 05:29:23

Gullible Jones wrote:

menus don't update after installing new apps without logging out and in again (even with FAM, gamin, or inotify).

It works for me with gamin.

halmcelroy · 2006-03-22 07:03:54

I added Blaavis' repo to pacman.conf.. and put it in order so that its first in the list.. still get this error:

gnome2.13.db.tar.gz: No such file or directory

Am I doing something wrong or this directory is really missing?

Regards,
Hal

_Gandalf_ · 2006-03-22 07:05:44

halmcelroy wrote:

I added Blaavis' repo to pacman.conf.. and put it in order so that its first in the list.. still get this error:
gnome2.13.db.tar.gz: No such file or directory
Am I doing something wrong or this directory is really missing?
Regards,
Hal

Gnome 2.14 is in Testing now please remove gnome2.13 repo and uncomment testing repository.., i'll edit the 1st post...

baze · 2006-03-22 07:43:59

gstreamer0.10-bad plugins aren't in testing yet. what about that?

pressh · 2006-03-22 07:54:23

kr wrote:

Gullible Jones wrote:
menus don't update after installing new apps without logging out and in again (even with FAM, gamin, or inotify).
It works for me with gamin.

and for me with fam

Mythoz · 2006-03-22 08:22:10

nam1000 wrote:

3- hall seems to be passing more information to nautilus than before, so that I end up having nautilus display my home partitition as a volume

Yup, first I thought it was a bug...

After looking at source code I discoverd, you have to set the "volume.ignore" hal key to "true" for the desired volume/partition. It's already done for some special volumes. See

/usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi

I do not like that gnome-volume-manager mounts all my partitions automaticly, so I set all not hotpluggable and not removeable volumes to be ignored:

$ cat /etc/hal/fdi/policy/50-volume-ignore.fdi 
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!-- -*- SGML -*- --> 

<deviceinfo version="0.2">
  <device>

    <match key="volume.fsusage" string="filesystem">
        <match key="@block.storage_device:storage.hotpluggable" bool="false">
            <match key="@block.storage_device:storage.removable" bool="false">

                <merge key="volume.ignore" type="bool">true</merge>

            </match> 
        </match>
    </match>
      
  </device>
</deviceinfo>

Gullible Jones · 2006-03-22 21:05:04

pressh wrote:

kr wrote:
Gullible Jones wrote:
menus don't update after installing new apps without logging out and in again (even with FAM, gamin, or inotify).
It works for me with gamin.
and for me with fam

Weird, doesn't work for me with gamin or FAM either. :? Very strange.

jaboua · 2006-03-22 21:20:16

You should change something here:

installing totem-xine... done.

==> Totem has been built with GStreamer. By default, totem does not depend
==> on any GStreamer plugin.
==> To play media files, install the corresponding gstreamer0.10-[codec] package.

Totem-xine is built with xine...

Other than that, great release - the fastest I've seen in a long time...

_Gandalf_ · 2006-03-22 22:55:42

Gullible Jones wrote:

pressh wrote:
kr wrote:
It works for me with gamin.
and for me with fam
Weird, doesn't work for me with gamin or FAM either. :? Very strange.

Is portmap installed and running ??

Gullible Jones · 2006-03-22 23:58:52

Shouldn't matter if you use gamin or inotify, neither require portmap... Anyway, yes, portmap was installed and running.

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