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#276 2006-03-23 02:37:13

_Gandalf_
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

That's weird :shock: , gamin works for me roll

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#277 2006-03-24 00:16:25

ganlu
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From: ChongQing, China
Registered: 2004-01-04
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

gamin works for me too. and I don't even need to  modify anything.

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#278 2006-03-24 09:10:19

mouse256
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From: Antwerpen, Belgium
Registered: 2005-08-24
Posts: 247

Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

I'm trying gnome 2.14 too, but I'm not so lucky :-(

my problems:
1) a lot of applets won't work. I've been searching and a lot of people say installing libxss or libxcompmgr will do the trick, but it doesn't for me.  Here is a part of my ~/.xsession-errors:

** (gnome-panel:4871): WARNING **: panel-applet-frame.c:1304: failed to load applet OAFIID:GNOME_WorkspaceSwitcherApplet (can't get property bag):
Unknown CORBA exception id: 'IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0'

** (gnome-panel:4871): WARNING **: panel-applet-frame.c:1261: failed to load applet OAFIID:GNOME_WindowListApplet:
Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/applets/applet_0/prefs;background=none:;orient=up;size=x-small;locked_down=false

** (gnome-panel:4871): WARNING **: panel-applet-frame.c:1261: failed to load applet OAFIID:GNOME_ShowDesktopApplet:
Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/applets/show_desktop_button_screen0/prefs;background=none:;orient=up;size=x-small;locked_down=false

** (nautilus:4873): WARNING **: libpoppler-glib.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

** (nautilus:4873): WARNING **: libdbus-glib-1.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

** (gnome-panel:4871): WARNING **: panel-applet-frame.c:1304: failed to load applet OAFIID:GNOME_WindowMenuApplet (can't get property bag):
Unknown CORBA exception id: 'IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0'

** (gnome-panel:4871): WARNING **: panel-applet-frame.c:1261: failed to load applet OAFIID:GNOME_MiniCommanderApplet:
Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/applets/applet_3/prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false

2) It seems gnome 2.14 is only configured for alsa :'( I need to use OSS for the nforce2 nvidia drivers. how can I solve this problem?

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#279 2006-03-24 09:16:41

Blaasvis
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Registered: 2003-01-17
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

it looks like you didn't do an pacman -Suy...


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#280 2006-03-24 09:26:39

mouse256
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From: Antwerpen, Belgium
Registered: 2005-08-24
Posts: 247

Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

Blaasvis wrote:

it looks like you didn't do an pacman -Suy...

Thanks for you quick reply ;-)

No I didn't do a pacman -Syu, because I didn't feel any need to play around with a kernel from testing.
I think when I use some packages that require some other newer packages on my system this should be dependencies, not?
Now I did look what packages pacman -Syu would have installed and installed the ones I thought I needed.  Gnome applets are working now.

But still the oss problem isn't solved :-(

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#281 2006-03-24 10:59:39

_Gandalf_
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

@mouse256 just for the reference you need either pacman -Syu or pacman -Sy gnome gnome-extra dbus, but it's always better to go with pacman -Syu, I always run on testing, never had major issues...

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#282 2006-03-24 12:45:35

mouse256
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From: Antwerpen, Belgium
Registered: 2005-08-24
Posts: 247

Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

Whoops, I thought gnome-desktop was referring to the whole gnome installation, actually it's just gnome :-)

but I still think there are dependency problems:
- gnome-desktop should depend on gnome-session>=2.14 (otherwise you can't start gnome anymore when you update gnome-desktop)
- gnome-panel depends on libwnck, I think it also should be libwnck>=2.14, otherwise you get the crashing applets effects I had wink

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#283 2006-03-24 13:39:10

_Gandalf_
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

Well No one is supposed to do pacman -Sy gnome gnome-extra when you already have gnome installed, You should use pacman -Syu, we can't specify every dependencie like this what if it works roll ?? so please just pacman -Syu and join the ride, otherwize stay with gnome 2.12 till gnome 2.14 hits current along with kde 3.5.2 and dbus 0.61

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#284 2006-03-24 22:51:50

JGC
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

For the non-refreshing menus problem: I patched gnome-menus to use gnome-vfs instead of fam directly. Applications using gnome-menus use gnome-vfs anyways, so why not make it a dependency. New or removed applications are noticed by the panel instantly now.

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#285 2006-03-25 08:56:11

sputnik
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From: Canada
Registered: 2005-06-24
Posts: 98

Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

Mythoz wrote:
nam1000 wrote:

3- hall seems to be passing more information to nautilus than before, so that I end up having nautilus display my home partitition as a volume

Yup, first I thought it was a bug...  smile

After looking at source code I discoverd, you have to set the "volume.ignore" hal key to "true" for the desired volume/partition. It's already done for some special volumes. See

/usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi

I do not like that gnome-volume-manager mounts all my partitions automaticly, so I set all not hotpluggable and not removeable volumes to be ignored:

$ cat /etc/hal/fdi/policy/50-volume-ignore.fdi 
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!-- -*- SGML -*- --> 

<deviceinfo version="0.2">
  <device>

    <match key="volume.fsusage" string="filesystem">
        <match key="@block.storage_device:storage.hotpluggable" bool="false">
            <match key="@block.storage_device:storage.removable" bool="false">

                <merge key="volume.ignore" type="bool">true</merge>

            </match> 
        </match>
    </match>
      
  </device>
</deviceinfo>

Thanks a lot, that worked. Still one problem, its still mounting my raid partition. I checked in /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi but could find anything.

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#286 2006-03-25 11:19:17

jaboua
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Registered: 2005-11-05
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

Banshee doesn't seem to work after the switch to gnome 2.14 (works with 2.12), complained about dbus-sharp. I tried recompiling it with ABS, seems to work now.

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#287 2006-03-25 14:07:01

baze
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Registered: 2005-10-30
Posts: 393

Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

damn, i used gnome-menus to create dynamic generated menus in fvwm and i was glad, that i don't have to install all the gnome "crap" and now i need this stuff installed.
that really sucks imho hmm

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#288 2006-03-25 20:04:58

Gullible Jones
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

I think menumaker might be able to do dynamic menus...

Wait a minute, dynamic menus worked for you? Were you using gamin or FAM? Hmm... Hey JGC, was gnome-menus compiled with inotify support before the last update?

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#289 2006-03-25 21:16:44

baze
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Registered: 2005-10-30
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

no, it was not really updating automatically in fvwm, but the menu items could be generated using pyxdg and gnome-menus.
but i switched to xfce for now...

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#290 2006-03-25 22:18:28

Gullible Jones
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

In that case, I think menumaker should be able to do the same thing, perhaps better. It doesn't claim to work with FVWM, however it does have an option for a frontend called "Deskmenu", which sounds like it might work (perhaps with PyXDG).

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#291 2006-03-25 23:39:49

JGC
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

Gullible Jones wrote:

I think menumaker might be able to do dynamic menus...

Wait a minute, dynamic menus worked for you? Were you using gamin or FAM? Hmm... Hey JGC, was gnome-menus compiled with inotify support before the last update?

Gnome-menus was compiled with fam support, since that's t he only thing it supports. It didn't update any menu stuff on my system with gamin, so I switched it to gnome-vfs, which uses inotify.

gnome-menus is a gnome library, so I don't care about what dependencies this change would pull in for non-gnome users if they use it for other purposes.

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#292 2006-03-26 00:20:44

Gullible Jones
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

Didn't work with gamin? That's weird, I thought gamin worked pretty much as a drop-in replacement for FAM...

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#293 2006-03-26 00:49:16

_Gandalf_
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

it was working for me i use gamin and now it's working too, i don't mind xhat it's using since i use only gnome but that's weird it wasn't working for u JGC maybe a patch for it other than gnome-vfs so others can benefit from it?

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#294 2006-03-26 13:23:02

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Registered: 2006-01-16
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

I've a problem with nautilus... when I exit gnome and then I start again the icons in the desktop are placed anywhere


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#295 2006-03-26 13:48:40

Blaasvis
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Posts: 467

Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

known issue, disable show volumes with gconf-editor


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#296 2006-03-26 13:57:16

Mythoz
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Registered: 2004-04-25
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

Another issue I have in GNOME 2.14: If you make a link (drag-and-drop the url from epiphany or firefox to the desktop) and open it, the url is not opened with the default browser selected in "Preferred Applications".

Every time I try to open such link opera is used instead of the selected default and my new favourite browser: epiphany. If I remove the opera package the problem remains, but this time with firefox.

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#297 2006-03-26 14:08:04

mouse256
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From: Antwerpen, Belgium
Registered: 2005-08-24
Posts: 247

Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

About the problem I have with the new gnome and OSS, I thnink I'll need a gstreamer-oss , like gstreamer-alsa.
But I can't access any cvs entries from gstreamer0.10, so I can't edit the pkgbuilds :-(
Is there anyone here who can fix that cvs? http://archlinux.org/packages.php?id=10467

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#298 2006-03-26 14:12:38

Cimi
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Registered: 2006-01-16
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

Blaasvis wrote:

known issue, disable show volumes with gconf-editor

how i can edit volumes visible in the computer directory? I want to delete fat partition because the label is WINDOWS all with caps locked


Murrine Creator - GNOME Developer

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#299 2006-03-26 14:20:17

McQueen
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Registered: 2006-03-20
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

mouse256 wrote:

About the problem I have with the new gnome and OSS, I thnink I'll need a gstreamer-oss , like gstreamer-alsa.
But I can't access any cvs entries from gstreamer0.10, so I can't edit the pkgbuilds :-(
Is there anyone here who can fix that cvs? http://archlinux.org/packages.php?id=10467

gstreamer0.10-alsa


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#300 2006-03-26 14:28:35

mouse256
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From: Antwerpen, Belgium
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Release

Thanks, I was looking on the wrong place in the cvs :-)

But I just found out oss support is in the gstreamer-good package. I will try that package tomorrow...

[edit] gstreamer-good works for OSS sound support :-) [/edit]

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