kde4 kf5 and plasma next

blauman · 2014-09-09 11:55:02

Hello, i am a bit confused about DE kde. I have the last update of kde4 (4.14.0) available for Arch. But i know it is already available kf5 too. So i should wait a new update that will convert kde4.14 to kf5 sooner or later, or i should install kf5 since now? And for plasma next? thank you!

clfarron4 · 2014-09-09 12:29:29

Whilst Plasma 5 is usable, there is still a lot of work to be done to make it a finished product for an end user, so I'd wait (unless you're into bug-hunting).

blauman · 2014-09-09 12:36:25

oh about plasma 5 i suspected it wasn't ready. But kf5? it is already to 5.1 stable release and there aren't updates from kde4. This is my dubt!

V1del · 2014-09-09 15:28:18

kf5 is a compilation of libraries for application devs, for end users they are pretty much uninteresting they will be used once apps are ported to kf5 (or if you start to use plasma next) you can already install them alongside kde4 though, but they will do nothing for now (groups kf5 and kf5-aids already exist in the repos, none of the 4.x components use them though so there is no dependency ergo no update)

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blauman · 2014-09-09 16:07:49

so there will be an update from kde4 to new version 5 sooner or later?

caligula · 2014-09-10 14:53:11

blauman wrote:

so there will be an update from kde4 to new version 5 sooner or later?

Eventually.
The current situation is somewhat confusing - you can no longer refer to "KDE" as a single application package, so "KDE 5" is meaningless.
There are now three different pieces of software you can consider "KDE":

* KDE Frameworks - the base libraries. These are now at stable version 5.0.1
* KDE Applications - the apps you know & love such as dolphin, ark, etc etc. These are now at version 4.14, and will be gradually upgraded to 5.x. By this time next year they should all be at 5.x.
* Plasma - Plasma is the actual desktop shell. It encompasses the desktop, widgets, activities, panels, etc etc. Plasma is now at version 5, but the new packages are not yet available for arch in binary form - only in the AUR.

blauman · 2014-09-10 15:51:03

caligula wrote:

blauman wrote:
so there will be an update from kde4 to new version 5 sooner or later?
Eventually.
The current situation is somewhat confusing - you can no longer refer to "KDE" as a single application package, so "KDE 5" is meaningless.
There are now three different pieces of software you can consider "KDE":
* KDE Frameworks - the base libraries. These are now at stable version 5.0.1
* KDE Applications - the apps you know & love such as dolphin, ark, etc etc. These are now at version 4.14, and will be gradually upgraded to 5.x. By this time next year they should all be at 5.x.
* Plasma - Plasma is the actual desktop shell. It encompasses the desktop, widgets, activities, panels, etc etc. Plasma is now at version 5, but the new packages are not yet available for arch in binary form - only in the AUR.

thank you caligula, now it is a little more clear. So a kde user should wait the kde applications and plasma update to 5. But about kf5? i have seen that if i try to install kf5, the system make me replace my old versions to the new. it is convenient replace them now?

V1del · 2014-09-10 16:11:41

afaik only kactivites4 is being replaced, but that replacement is safe as its supported by the KDE4 and KDE 5 Plasma's implementation. The bigger changes that aren't simply replacable will happen someday down the line

clfarron4 · 2014-09-10 19:08:24

Hey, I'll point you in the direction of this repository for Plasma5:

[plasma5]
http://www.aalinux.net/repo/plasma5/arch/

You'll need to ad the keys: http://www.aalinux.net/

Note, this is unofficial.

Last edited by clfarron4 (2014-09-10 19:09:11)

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#1 2014-09-09 11:55:02

kde4 kf5 and plasma next

#2 2014-09-09 12:29:29

Re: kde4 kf5 and plasma next

#3 2014-09-09 12:36:25

Re: kde4 kf5 and plasma next

#4 2014-09-09 15:28:18

Re: kde4 kf5 and plasma next

#5 2014-09-09 16:07:49

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#6 2014-09-10 14:53:11

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#7 2014-09-10 15:51:03

Re: kde4 kf5 and plasma next

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