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#1 2014-09-28 15:39:50

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[Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

I'm trying to install arch in my new notebook (UEFI), but I can't login in it after finish my installation.
I have already use gummiboot and grub, and tried to put both in my first boot options, but none of them has find my Arch partition.
Grub is only openning in shell and I don't know what to do.
I need help to make it work properly.

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#2 2014-09-28 16:57:45

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

Post your gummiboot conf and the output of lsblk.


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#3 2014-09-28 17:21:33

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

I don't know how I can do that. I'm trying to figure it out

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#4 2014-09-28 18:02:27

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot


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#5 2014-09-28 18:04:58

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

lsblk > http://sprunge.us/DPQK
arch entrie > http://sprunge.us/TgEh
gummiboot loader.conf > http://sprunge.us/ZPPJ

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#6 2014-09-28 18:45:24

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

Why have you used a PARTUUID to identify the root partition?
This will tell us the UUID of the partition -- use that instead:

lsblk -f

If that fails, try "root=/dev/sd<x><y>" instead...

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#7 2014-09-28 21:34:00

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

lsblk -f > http://sprunge.us/aLGh

edit1: using "root=/dev/sdb7" lead me to the same error.
I not know what i'm doing wrong .
sad
edit2: the error in gummiboot tells me that it can't find "/vmlinuz-linux", could my problem be in the instalation, instead of the bootloader?

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#8 2014-09-28 21:48:13

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

Post the output of:

# gdisk -l /dev/sdb

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#9 2014-09-28 22:04:54

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Post the output of:

# gdisk -l /dev/sdb

http://sprunge.us/BAHd

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#10 2014-09-28 22:09:15

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

You didn't think it was important to tell us that this is an attempted dual-boot with Windows?
It's my fault for not asking really of course... hmm
It is advised to share the Windows generated EFI system partition with the Arch installation.
It looks like you have made another one.
Read the wiki:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wi … _dual_boot

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#11 2014-09-28 22:14:16

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

Yeah. It's my fault too.
I really did another one, because the arch couldn't write in /dev/sdx1.
Could this be the root of the problem?

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#12 2014-09-28 22:19:04

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

I think the problem here is attempting to troubleshoot with so little information...
Read the Beginner's Guide & the page I linked again & read this also:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Then post back with more useful information plz.

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#13 2014-09-29 00:13:36

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

First of all, english is not my mother language, so I may commit mistakes and not be able to identify them. Sorry for that.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I think the problem here is attempting to troubleshoot with so little information...
Read the Beginner's Guide & the page I linked again & read this also:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Then post back with more useful information plz.

Thanks for the help and the lecture indication. I really hope that the following can explain what's going on.

I have a recently bought Dell notebook (Inspiron 3437) that I want to install Arch in.
It's native OS is Windows 8.1 which I desire to maintain because of proprietary softwares that I need to use sometimes. I have already turn off the Fast Startup and Secure Boot turned off.

The first time I tried to install Arch on this notebook the system has not let me write in de EFI boot partition of Windows, so I tried to do a new boot partition (What appently is the wrong way to solve it), and them wipe the partition I did for Arch and restarted the install process. ( I didn't wipe all my HD and reinstall everything because I use it, both to work and study, but I can try it when I have more free time, if it's needed).

I tried to do it work with grub first, but in the first time it couldn't read the /vmlinuz-linux and so not has booted in. So them I tried to make it work with Gummiboot, which lead me to the same error them grub.  I tried to follow the session of Begginer's Guide about UEFI bootloaders,  but it hasn't helped-me directly, probably for my mystake. 

After that I wiped my new boot partition and tried the grub again, but this time it only login in grub shell. I am clueless about if is it recommended to try reinstalling Arch or what the problem lies in, so I really hope to receive some help.

Edit 1: The partitions I use for the arch and the gummiboot are respectively /dev/sdx7 and /dev/sdx8, as you can see there > http://sprunge.us/aLGh

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#14 2014-09-29 08:21:46

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

pedrogabriel wrote:

The first time I tried to install Arch on this notebook the system has not let me write in de EFI boot partition of Windows, so I tried to do a new boot partition

How did you attempt to "write in de EFI boot partitiion of Windows"?
How did it fail? What error messages did it give?
How did you "do a new boot partition"?
I note from the gdisk output it is FAT-formatted & listed as type ef00 but it is not listed as an EFI system partition...
hmm
It may be simplest to remove all the extra partitions (leaving the Windows-generated ones intact) & start again from scratch, following the Beginner's Guide to the letter.

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#15 2014-09-29 12:29:21

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

How did you attempt to "write in de EFI boot partitiion of Windows"?

I tried to do this " gummiboot --path=$esp install" and this "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=$esp --bootloader-id=arch_grub --recheck" using the Windows EFI partition (/dev/sdx1)

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

How did it fail? What error messages did it give?

I don't know the error message for sure, but it told me that the /boot partition was mounted only for read, not write.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

How did you "do a new boot partition"?
I note from the gdisk output it is FAT-formatted & listed as type ef00 but it is not listed as an EFI system partition...

I used a gparted disk for do both partitions, and followed this as guide > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UE … _Partition

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

It may be simplest to remove all the extra partitions (leaving the Windows-generated ones intact) & start again from scratch, following the Beginner's Guide to the letter.

I also think so. Would I need to try to write in the windows partition again? What if it not work again?

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#16 2014-09-29 18:02:20

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

pedrogabriel wrote:

I used a gparted disk for do both partitions

You shouldn't need to touch the Windows-generated ESP (sdb1), it you altered it this may be the problem...

I would use gdisk & mkfs rather than gparted -- they're on the Arch live .iso & are actually much clearer in their usage than gparted IMO.

If you decide to start again from scratch, I would advise you to keep it as simple as possible: just make one more partition for "/" & mount /dev/sdb1 as /boot before you run pacstrap.

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#17 2014-10-01 02:42:05

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

I started again from scratch and it worked.
Thank you, Head_on_a_Stick.

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#18 2014-10-01 07:23:06

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Re: [Solved] Can't boot arch from grub or gummiboot

Please remember to mark your thread as [Solved] by editing your first post and prepending it to the title.


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