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#1 2014-10-03 12:30:41

onkehh
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Registered: 2014-10-03
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GDM / Gnome do not launch

This is a "salvaged" install (was left unupdated for about 2 years and finally got it all up-to-date).  Unfortunately, neither GDM or Gnome work.  Launching GDM just freezes the tty and nothing happens.  Launching Gnome directly (exec gnome-session in .xinitrc) launches Xorg but I just get the "oh no" of doom message and have to close it.

I'm currently posting from Xfce4 which works fine so it looks my hardware/Xorg is working fine.  I had a look in /var/log/gdm but there's nothing in there so not even sure which logs I should be checking for this.  I'm using Nvidia/Intel combo (optimus) laptop with regular Intel driver/Nouveau. Any pointers would be most appreciated.  Thanks.

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#2 2014-10-03 13:37:53

prakharsingh95
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Registered: 2014-10-02
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Re: GDM / Gnome do not launch

onkehh wrote:

This is a "salvaged" install (was left unupdated for about 2 years and finally got it all up-to-date).  Unfortunately, neither GDM or Gnome work.  Launching GDM just freezes the tty and nothing happens.  Launching Gnome directly (exec gnome-session in .xinitrc) launches Xorg but I just get the "oh no" of doom message and have to close it.

I'm currently posting from Xfce4 which works fine so it looks my hardware/Xorg is working fine.  I had a look in /var/log/gdm but there's nothing in there so not even sure which logs I should be checking for this.  I'm using Nvidia/Intel combo (optimus) laptop with regular Intel driver/Nouveau. Any pointers would be most appreciated.  Thanks.

If you can get

startx

to run (from tty), then try reinstalling gnome or kde.


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#3 2014-10-03 14:58:35

onkehh
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Re: GDM / Gnome do not launch

Thanks for the reply.  As I mentioned it does not work via startx either.  I guess what I'm really looking for is the relevant log files I need to go through to find the cause of the problem.

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#4 2014-10-03 18:04:52

prakharsingh95
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Registered: 2014-10-02
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Re: GDM / Gnome do not launch

onkehh wrote:

Thanks for the reply.  As I mentioned it does not work via startx either.  I guess what I'm really looking for is the relevant log files I need to go through to find the cause of the problem.

Like I said, if you cannot get startx to run, go through the wiki, and try reinstalling drivers. This has excellent combinations for any hardware configuration you might have.

Last edited by prakharsingh95 (2014-10-03 18:05:45)


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#5 2014-10-03 23:41:45

onkehh
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Re: GDM / Gnome do not launch

prakharsingh95 wrote:
onkehh wrote:

Thanks for the reply.  As I mentioned it does not work via startx either.  I guess what I'm really looking for is the relevant log files I need to go through to find the cause of the problem.

Like I said, if you cannot get startx to run, go through the wiki, and try reinstalling drivers. This has excellent combinations for any hardware configuration you might have.

You said reinstall Gnome or KDE (?) not drivers.  Anyway Xorg is working fine as Xfce runs without issue.

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#6 2014-10-04 00:01:59

prakharsingh95
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Re: GDM / Gnome do not launch

onkehh wrote:
prakharsingh95 wrote:
onkehh wrote:

Thanks for the reply.  As I mentioned it does not work via startx either.  I guess what I'm really looking for is the relevant log files I need to go through to find the cause of the problem.

Like I said, if you cannot get startx to run, go through the wiki, and try reinstalling drivers. This has excellent combinations for any hardware configuration you might have.

You said reinstall Gnome or KDE (?) not drivers.  Anyway Xorg is working fine as Xfce runs without issue.

If you have working graphics drivers startx should work, and consequently desktop environments (Apologies, I misread "not via startx" as "startx doesn't work"). You should definitely reinstall gnome (and graphics drivers) from wiki though, since your system is old.


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#7 2014-10-04 07:21:28

brittyazel
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Registered: 2013-05-11
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Re: GDM / Gnome do not launch

The system is most likely now using systemd where it was not before. Try: sudo systemctl enable gdm , then: sudo systemctl start gdm


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#8 2014-10-04 09:07:23

onkehh
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Re: GDM / Gnome do not launch

brittyazel wrote:

The system is most likely now using systemd where it was not before. Try: sudo systemctl enable gdm , then: sudo systemctl start gdm

Thanks I just tried that but it I just get the cursor marker frozen in the top left and the whole tty is stuck like that.

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#9 2014-10-04 10:33:12

brittyazel
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Re: GDM / Gnome do not launch

Weird....there might just be too much incompatibility with your old arch install and the current software. The issue is just with Gnome/GDM? Are you using networkmanager for networking? I'm just trying to think of what systemd services you would need to enable to get a full working gnome desktop. Really just gdm/networkmanager/cups should do it...

Last edited by brittyazel (2014-10-04 10:35:20)


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#10 2014-10-04 11:32:46

Thorsten Reinbold
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Registered: 2011-12-06
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Re: GDM / Gnome do not launch

onkehh wrote:

This is a "salvaged" install (was left unupdated for about 2 years and finally got it all up-to-date).

Seriously: save your data and make a fresh install from scratch. That will be much faster and easier than hunting the bugs down.

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#11 2014-10-04 12:03:04

hokasch
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Re: GDM / Gnome do not launch

I had a look in /var/log/gdm but there's nothing in there so not even sure which logs I should be checking for this.

Logs are in the systemd journal, see:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd#Journal

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