KDE Applications 14.12 repo

arojas · 2014-11-29 20:02:25

The KDE Applications 14.12 pre-release is available for testing in the repository:

Server 1: http://kde-beta.wirephire.com/repo (courtesy of wirephire.com)
Server 2: http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/

Pakages are x86_64 only, and signed with the key ID 941C2A25

The following packages are ported to KF5: kwrite, konsole, gwenview, kate, kalgebra, kanagram, khangman, kig, parley, okteta, kapptemplate. They will replace the corresponding KDE4 version. There are also three additional packages katepart4, konsolepart4 and oktetapart4, which are needed for some KDE4 applications that still use their Kparts. You will need to install them manually if you use any of these apps (e.g. yakuake) before upgrading.

Please test and report packaging and upgrading issues in this thread, so that we help making the update as smooth as possible when KDE Applications 14.12 hits [extra]. Other bugs and issues should be reported upstream to http://bugs.kde.org

EDIT 30/11/14: Konversation 1.6 beta (KF5 based) added
EDIT 12/12/14: Calligra 2.9 beta added
EDIT 16/1/15: KDE Applications 14.12 is now in [testing], so removed all outdated beta packages.

Last edited by arojas (2015-01-16 15:46:42)

davidm · 2014-11-29 20:16:33

Nice work. Thank you.

Just to confirm should we be using testing as was advised with kde-unstable or are we okay sticking to stable and using this repo?

arojas · 2014-11-29 20:19:43

davidm wrote:

Just to confirm should we be using testing as was advised with kde-unstable or are we okay sticking to stable and using this repo?

They are built against the stable repos

rumpelsepp · 2014-11-29 22:21:41

I have a problem with signing the key:

# pacman-key -r 941C2A25
gpg: key 941C2A25: "Antonio Rojas <nobody@domain.tld>" not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:              unchanged: 1
==> Updating trust database...
gpg: next trustdb check due at 2014-12-31
# pacman-key --lsign-key 941C2A25
  -> Locally signing key 941C2A25...
==> ERROR: 941C2A25 could not be locally signed.

# pacman-key -f 7A4E76095D8A52E4
pub   rsa4096/941C2A25 2014-10-21
      Key fingerprint = 9D74 DF6F 91B7 BDAB D581  5CA8 4AC5 588F 941C 2A25
uid       [marginal] Antonio Rojas <nobody@domain.tld>
uid       [marginal] Antonio Rojas <nobody@domain.tld>
uid       [marginal] Antonio Rojas <nobody@domain.tld>
uid       [marginal] Antonio Rojas <nobody@domain.tld>
sub   rsa2048/5D8A52E4 2014-11-07
sub   rsa2048/4C6E5289 2014-11-07

Am I missing something here? Thanks!

edit: anonymised email, sorry fot that.

Last edited by rumpelsepp (2014-11-30 20:40:05)

desaparecido · 2014-11-30 16:32:16

hi @rumpelsepp, I have the same issue about the signing the key :-/

LeonardK · 2014-11-30 16:35:58

UPDATE: kdeartwork-kscreensaver + kdeartwork-styles needs kdebase-workspace. Why?

Does anyone understand why installing kde-meta-kdeartwork needs kdebase-workspace in the end?!?

$ sudo pacman -Sp kde-meta-kdeartwork                                                                                                              
http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/kdeartwork-colorschemes-14.11.97-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/kdeartwork-desktopthemes-14.11.97-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/kdeartwork-emoticons-14.11.97-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/kdeartwork-iconthemes-14.11.97-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/kdebase-runtime-14.11.97-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/akonadi-1.13.0-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/libdmtx-0.7.4-5-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/qrencode-3.4.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/prison-1.1.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/kdepimlibs-4.14.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/libkgapi-2.2.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/xerces-c-3.1.1-5-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/libkolabxml-1.0.2-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/libkolab-0.5.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/libkfbapi-1.0-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/libaccounts-glib-1.17-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/libaccounts-qt4-1.13-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/signon-qt4-8.57-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/kdepim-runtime-4.14.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/qimageblitz-0.0.6-4-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/polkit-kde-0.99.0-5-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/libxklavier-5.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/kde-base-artwork-14.11.97-1-any.pkg.tar.xz
http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/kdebase-workspace-4.11.14-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/libkexiv2-14.11.97-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/kdeartwork-kscreensaver-14.11.97-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/kdeartwork-styles-14.11.97-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/kdeartwork-wallpapers-14.11.97-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/kdeartwork-weatherwallpapers-14.11.97-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
http://arojas.hol.es/repos/kde-beta/kde-meta-kdeartwork-14.12-1-any.pkg.tar.xz

Last edited by LeonardK (2014-11-30 16:44:51)

arojas · 2014-11-30 17:26:48

LeonardK wrote:

UPDATE: kdeartwork-kscreensaver + kdeartwork-styles needs kdebase-workspace. Why?
Does anyone understand why installing kde-meta-kdeartwork needs kdebase-workspace in the end?!?

Because they are screensavers and window decorations for KDE4. This is nothing specific to 14.12, it is already the case for 4.14 in [extra]

LeonardK · 2014-11-30 17:31:20

Sadly these packages conflict with some packages like khotkeys v5 then. But I want to use KApps 14.12 with KF5. I suppose "-dd" won't work?

arojas · 2014-11-30 17:33:20

rumpelsepp wrote:

I have a problem with signing the key:

Seems that pacman-key --lsign-key is broken with gnupg 2.1, it works correctly with gnupg 2.0. Please report it to the bug tracker.

arojas · 2014-11-30 17:36:26

LeonardK wrote:

Sadly these packages conflict with some packages like khotkeys v5 then. But I want to use KApps 14.12 with KF5. I suppose "-dd" won't work?

Don't install the kdeartwork meta package then, just install the packages you want/need. If you use -dd you will run into the same issue with every future update.

LeonardK · 2014-11-30 17:41:50

That's what I already did, just wanted to make sure this is correct. Thanks for the information. Is there a plan to make the dependent on kf5 rather than on KDE4?

arojas · 2014-11-30 17:45:49

LeonardK wrote:

That's what I already did, just wanted to make sure this is correct. Thanks for the information. Is there a plan to make the dependent on kf5 rather than on KDE4?

That's something you should ask upstream to the KDE developers, we just package what they provide. I'd say the kdeartwork module will probably disappear at some point and the content relevant to Plasma5 will be shipped with Plasma.

LeonardK · 2014-11-30 17:46:50

I thought you might already now that ;-). That's settled then, thanks for all the packaging.

rumpelsepp · 2014-11-30 20:43:36

arojas wrote:

Seems that pacman-key --lsign-key is broken with gnupg 2.1, it works correctly with gnupg 2.0. Please report it to the bug tracker.

see here: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/42966

frontwheelskid · 2014-11-30 22:27:56

Not sure if I'm being thick or what, but why are these packages built against Qt4?

andre.vmatos · 2014-12-01 00:54:34

I've been using KF5 git versions of okular and dolphin for a while, and they're very stable for now. Any chance of their kf5 versions being included in final applications 14.12, or in the repository? Oh, and thanks for the awesome work!

Last edited by andre.vmatos (2014-12-01 00:59:37)

arojas · 2014-12-01 07:24:43

andre.vmatos wrote:

I've been using KF5 git versions of okular and dolphin for a while, and they're very stable for now. Any chance of their kf5 versions being included in final applications 14.12, or in the repository?

No, sorry, the purpose of this repo is to test the 14.12 pre-release and the upgrade from 4.14. The KF5 versions of okular and dolphin didn't make it to 14.12.

frontwheelskid · 2014-12-01 10:33:16

arojas wrote:

No, sorry, the purpose of this repo is to test the 14.12 pre-release and the upgrade from 4.14. The KF5 versions of okular and dolphin didn't make it to 14.12.

Ah, this answers my stupid question as well. I was specifically looking at dolphin when I thought the packages had been built with Qt4.

Thanks for all the work you've been doing with KDE here and on the AUR.

Box0 · 2014-12-01 11:36:48

Two questions:

1) It seems that we have lost the appmenu support for the moment. Apps like konversation (already ported to Qt5) show the classic menubar and do not forward the menu items to the global top-menu anymore. Or am I missing something?

2) Is there a general suggested strategy for changing the theme of the kf5 apps, when used into KDE 4.14? I see the kf-5 apps use the "fusion" theme, is it possibile to change it to oxygen?

Last edited by Box0 (2014-12-01 11:37:22)

arojas · 2014-12-01 11:45:03

Box0 wrote:

It seems that we have lost the appmenu support for the moment. Apps like konversation (already ported to Qt5) show the classic menubar and do not forward the menu items to the global top-menu anymore.

I don't use it myself so I don't know if it works, but have you tried appmenu-qt5?

Is there a general suggested strategy for changing the theme of the kf5 apps, when used into KDE 4.14?

You can set the QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE env variable globally.

Box0 · 2014-12-01 12:01:57

arojas wrote:

I don't use it myself so I don't know if it works, but have you tried appmenu-qt5?

yes but I think the appmenu forwarding thing requires oxygen, so unless we can use oxygen appmenu-qt5 does not work (see below).

arojas wrote:

You can set the QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE env variable globally.

If I set the global var (or alternatively use "-style=oxygen") the theme is set to some fallback-windows 95-like. And I can't install the "oxygen" package because it conflicts with kde-workspace.

Last edited by Box0 (2014-12-01 12:02:44)

davidm · 2014-12-01 13:50:48

Just to let people know who care (and in case it is a packaging issue after all) it looks like the new version of Kf5 Gwenview doesn't have support enabled for baloo (file ratings and tags). I'm not sure if it is just a packaging issue or if it is the result of some upstream changes.

I saw some discussion on it in the commit logs about a month back. Apparently a change was made to baloo which broke some compatibility and the new Gwenview maintainer either temporarily disabled support by default or changed the way detecting baloo worked (I saw both things mentioned and it wasn't clear to me which one was used). In either case some changes were made very recently.

arojas · 2014-12-01 15:58:11

Box0 wrote:

yes but I think the appmenu forwarding thing requires oxygen, so unless we can use oxygen appmenu-qt5 does not work (see below).

That sounds really strange to me. Why would transfering the menu over dbus require a specific widget style?

Box0 wrote:

If I set the global var (or alternatively use "-style=oxygen") the theme is set to some fallback-windows 95-like. And I can't install the "oxygen" package because it conflicts with kde-workspace.

Ah yes, of course if you want Qt5 apps to use the oxygen style you need to have the Qt5 version of oxygen installed. If you want oxygen so bad, you can try to create an oxygen package that contains only the widget style and remove everything else (sounds, cursors, windecos), this shouldn't conflict with KDE4.

arojas · 2014-12-01 16:12:32

davidm wrote:

Just to let people know who care (and in case it is a packaging issue after all) it looks like the new version of Kf5 Gwenview doesn't have support enabled for baloo (file ratings and tags). I'm not sure if it is just a packaging issue or if it is the result of some upstream changes.

Baloo API has been completely revamped in the last few weeks. Gwenview is ported to the new API, so Baloo support can't be enabled until the next Baloo release (which will be in Frameworks 5.6)

abveritas · 2014-12-01 16:20:46

Anyone who wants a complete list of what is what in KDE Applications 14.12, see:
https://community.kde.org/Applications/ … ease_Notes
There it is clearly noted what is kf5 based (just 12), what is still KDE 4, and what is no longer maintained for KDE 4.

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