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#1 2015-04-24 04:51:44

Soaph
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Odd boot issue

Earlier today, I ran the code 

openbox --restart

and managed to freeze my PC; being the impatient person that I am, I held the power button down to shut the PC off. Upon reboot, the computer displayed a black screen with a little white horizontal line. The PC didn't respond to any of the keys that I press. After about half a minute, the PC loaded up normally and I was able to access grub, etc. A little research in my phone led to me find that this is an issue with the CPU locating a bootable device. Technically, I can live with the 30 seconds or so for the PC to start booting. However, I was wondering if there was a solution to this, or if this has ever happened to someone.

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#2 2015-04-24 06:34:24

x33a
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Re: Odd boot issue

Did it happen only once or happening regularly after that?

Try running fsck on all your disks and maybe re-install grub..

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#3 2015-04-24 10:29:54

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Re: Odd boot issue

And when exactly did it happen? After bootloader or before? Was it maybe just the fsck during boot? (If that is the case it should not happen again unless you force shutdown again)

I put at button on it. Yes. I wish to press it, but I'm not sure what will happen if I do.  (Gune | Titan A.E.)

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#4 2015-04-24 11:55:03

Soaph
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Re: Odd boot issue

It happens regularly and it happens before the bootloader boots up. I've re-installed GRUB and yet the problem persists. I ran fsck on my boot partition and got the following output 

fsck from util-linux 2.26.1
e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
/dev/sda1: clean, 335/102400 files, 56007/409600 blocks

I don't know if this helps but, my Display Manager is laggy now. It's unresponsive to my clicks for about 30 seconds as well. I'm not too knowledgable but maybe this is a hardware issue?

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#5 2015-04-24 12:28:47

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Re: Odd boot issue

Check if your drive reports any errors (SMART). If this is a conventional hdd(not ssd) the drive might be slow to start which could be a sign of beginning failure of the drive.

I put at button on it. Yes. I wish to press it, but I'm not sure what will happen if I do.  (Gune | Titan A.E.)

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#6 2015-04-24 16:29:05

Soaph
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Re: Odd boot issue

I ran the SMART test and got the following: 

smartctl 6.3 2014-07-26 r3976 [x86_64-linux-3.19.3-3-ARCH] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-14, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

Last edited by Soaph (2015-04-27 19:12:06)

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#7 2015-04-25 12:33:34

x33a
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Re: Odd boot issue

run

# smartctl -a /dev/sda

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#8 2015-04-27 19:11:52

Soaph
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Re: Odd boot issue

Sorry for the late reply, I've been working. Anyways, I ran the test and got the following:

smartctl 6.3 2014-07-26 r3976 [x86_64-linux-3.19.3-3-ARCH] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-14, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     ST3320413AS
Serial Number:    6VMY35G3
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 03df63d66
Firmware Version: JC47
User Capacity:    320,072,933,376 bytes [320 GB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Mon Apr 27 15:11:20 2015 EDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x82)	Offline data collection activity
					was completed without error.
					Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)	The previous self-test routine completed
					without error or no self-test has ever 
					been run.
Total time to complete Offline 
data collection: 		(  625) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: 			 (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
					Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
					Suspend Offline collection upon new
					command.
					Offline surface scan supported.
					Self-test supported.
					Conveyance Self-test supported.
					Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)	Saves SMART data before entering
					power-saving mode.
					Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)	Error logging supported.
					General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine 
recommended polling time: 	 (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: 	 (  63) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: 	 (   2) minutes.
SCT capabilities: 	       (0x103f)	SCT Status supported.
					SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
					SCT Feature Control supported.
					SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   117   099   006    Pre-fail  Always       -       142897905
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   100   100   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       195
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   087   060   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       565507841
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   070   070   000    Old_age   Always       -       26403
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       180
183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age   Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   066   056   045    Old_age   Always       -       34 (Min/Max 22/39)
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   034   044   000    Old_age   Always       -       34 (0 12 0 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   055   045   000    Old_age   Always       -       142897905
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       26854 (76 36 0)
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       26973241
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       1276535693

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     26328         -
# 2  Short offline       Interrupted (host reset)      70%     11151         -
# 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%         0         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

Last edited by Soaph (2015-04-27 19:12:21)

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#9 2015-04-28 09:55:14

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Re: Odd boot issue

Your hard drive is quite old but the attributes seem fine. Care to elaborate more about your hardware, mainly graphics and ram?

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#10 2015-05-06 01:51:45

Soaph
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Re: Odd boot issue

Sorry for the late reply.

I bought this Dell Vostro 260 about two months on CL, so I don't know how old it is nor how much wear and tear it has gotten.

The processor is Intel Core i3-2120, 4gb of RAM. The graphics card is integrated to the CPU. I've heard many times that forcefully powering off your PC is bad, yet I've done for years. I guess that I now just finally managed to face repercussions for doing so. It seems to me as if I would just have to get a new hard drive.

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#11 2015-05-06 06:49:18

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Re: Odd boot issue

Yes, replacing the hdd should hopefully solve the problem.

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#12 2015-05-06 11:11:41

Soaph
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Re: Odd boot issue

Oh ok. Thank you. I was just wondering what it was.

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