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#1 2015-05-12 08:30:27

Broer
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[solved] Black screen when booting installation

The basic problem. I have a HD6870, my monitor is connected through DVI (& my second one through HDMI). No integrated graphics.

After I try to boot the x64_86 version, the screen goes black after 'booting kernel'.


Things I've tried:

radeon.modeset=0 (gives drm:radeon_init [radeon]] *ERROR* no UMS suppot in radeon module)
radeon.modeset=1 (black screen)
nomodeset (drm:radeon_init [radeon]] *ERROR* no UMS suppot in radeon module)
disconnected second screen (black screen)
video=SVIDEO-1:d (black screen)

i915.modeset=0 (I have no intel, but black screen)
acpi=off (doesn't work either).

It is driving me crazy. Can someone help me?

EDIT:

Solved by upgrading BIOS

Last edited by Broer (2015-05-16 17:32:04)

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#2 2015-05-12 13:17:02

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Re: [solved] Black screen when booting installation

Which install iso are you using ?

Does booting it into 32-bit work ?

Do install isos from other distros work ?

if you find one that boots, post lspci output.


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#3 2015-05-12 14:17:18

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Re: [solved] Black screen when booting installation

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Which install iso are you using ?

Latest dual

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Does booting it into 32-bit work ?

The screen doesn't turn black, but doesn't do anything else either

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Do install isos from other distros work ?

I couldn't get Ubuntu to boot either.
Debian also doesn't boot.
Windows DVD does boot however.

Lone_Wolf wrote:

if you find one that boots, post lspci output.

I'll try some other distro's. Any suggestions?


EDIT 22:31:

All Linux distributions freeze at booting the kernel.

Last edited by Broer (2015-05-12 20:32:11)

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#4 2015-05-12 21:25:32

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Re: [solved] Black screen when booting installation

Ok, that suggests there's something in your system that gives linux problems.

Please state brand & model and as many details about it as you can find like desktop / laptop, processsor, motherboard and such.


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#5 2015-05-13 08:32:46

Broer
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Re: [solved] Black screen when booting installation

Intel Core i7 860 Boxed
Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2
Sapphire HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 PCI-e
WD Blue SATA 3 Gb/s, 500GB
Mushkin 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 SODIMM PC3-10600 CL9 Apple

Memtest came back fine. Could it be something in my bios-settings?

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#6 2015-05-13 11:26:26

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Re: [solved] Black screen when booting installation

Checking bios settings would be good, especially look for something called "plug & play OS installed."


Your video card does have crossfire capabilities, do you have 2 videocards in your machine ?

Another possibility :
Maybe linux does send output to a wrong monitor.

Could you try booting with only 1 monitor connected ?
if still black screen with 1 monitor , try a different connection (your card has 4 it seems : hdmi, display port, dvi-d & dvi-i ).


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#7 2015-05-13 17:06:00

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Re: [solved] Black screen when booting installation

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Checking bios settings would be good, especially look for something called "plug & play OS installed."

Should this be on or off?
Edit: Only thing remotely close I could find was legacy USB settings, but those just disable my keyboard in the arch install.

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Your video card does have crossfire capabilities, do you have 2 videocards in your machine ?

1 videocard


Lone_Wolf wrote:

Another possibility :
Maybe linux does send output to a wrong monitor. Could you try booting with only 1 monitor connected ?

I initially thought the same, tried with DVI, HDMI single and double monitor, but it didn't work.

Lone_Wolf wrote:

if still black screen with 1 monitor , try a different connection (your card has 4 it seems : hdmi, display port, dvi-d & dvi-i ).

See above.


EDIT 2: putting HD in AHCI mode makes just the screen black. Backlight stays on. In Knoppix and Ubuntu it makes the kernel hang at booting kernel _

Last edited by Broer (2015-05-13 20:39:36)

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#8 2015-05-14 12:43:51

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Re: [solved] Black screen when booting installation

It's a long shot, but try fbcon=map:1 as kernel parameter .
if that doesn't work, try fbcon=map:0 .

If those also fail, try distros intended to work on as much systems as possible, like "Puppy Linux" and "Damn Small Linux"


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#9 2015-05-14 14:02:08

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Re: [solved] Black screen when booting installation

I updated my BIOS firmware and now it seems to work. There are a few troubles in trying to install Arch, but those are beginners faults, so I will manage. Thanks for the help!

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#10 2015-05-15 11:02:20

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Re: [solved] Black screen when booting installation

Great, please prepend [SOLVED} to the thread title.


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#11 2016-10-16 20:16:04

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Re: [solved] Black screen when booting installation

Now I have this issue.  I'm booting off a USB drive with the Oct 2016 Arch dual .iso, and the monitor turns off right after I make a selection at the boot menu.  It doesn't seem to matter which option I select (64bit/32bit), the monitor turns off and doesn't come back on until I reboot.

If I just sit and wait, eventually the USB keyboard will come to life.  I can hit the caps-lock key, and the num-lock key, and both lights respond.  But the monitor stays off.

Video card (just one) is an Nvidia GeForce GTX 970.

I upgraded my BIOS just to see if that would help, but it did not.  I'm on the latest Asus BIOS I could find, v2903 2016/02/22 for the Z97M+.

Hardware info does come up in old 80x25 mode.

This system used to work fine (over a year) until the boot drive took a dump.  I'm trying to get it fixed by booting off a USB drive.

Any ideas on how to keep the monitor on?

Or perhaps turn on network so I can ssh in from my laptop?

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#12 2016-10-21 20:57:04

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Re: [solved] Black screen when booting installation

@jedihawk, I have the same video card, GTX-970, on an ivybridge desktop machine, and same result booting off an Arch installation medium. Arch media used to work without intervention on this box but stopped working as of the June 2016 version or thereabouts. My only workaround with the Arch media, since we install in text mode and don't need a GUI on the live media, is to hit ESC at the boot menu and then e and edit the command line to add nomodeset to the end. That will let you install or repair your Arch setup, but nomodeset will prevent any GUI depending on nouveau from working. The only choice for me at this point is to install the binary Nvidia drivers which blacklist nouveau at boot and my GUIs work fine.

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#13 2016-10-25 19:55:38

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Re: [solved] Black screen when booting installation

gun26,

I ended up borrowing a card from my old workstation.  It's pretty old.  Still works on the old station, but Arch didn't know what to make of it.  No supporting drivers or something.  But that's okay as all I needed was text mode to fix the boot partition.

I had to re-format it, re-run mkinitcpio, make sure it was labeled, then all was well.

As for the GTX-970, I replaced it with an ATI card, which is what I'm running on now.  I couldn't get the GTX-970 to work any more.  Now I'm on an MSI Radeon R7 370 with 2G DDR5.  I don't know if it's better than what I used to have, but I'm probably not going to be playing games, just running a bunch of monitors.

My old card was from Asus.  It seems that Asus's quality is declining recently.

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