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#1 2015-09-09 17:56:29

otak
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From: west europe
Registered: 2015-08-01
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[solved] Weird package installed during my last system update

Hey guys

Here is my last system update log

[2015-09-08 02:30] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syu'
[2015-09-08 02:30] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2015-09-08 02:30] [PACMAN] starting full system upgrade
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] transaction started
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] upgraded libdbus (1.8.20-1 -> 1.10.0-2)
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] upgraded dbus (1.8.20-1 -> 1.10.0-2)
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] upgraded libxcb (1.11-1 -> 1.11.1-1)
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] upgraded mesa (10.6.5-1 -> 10.6.6-1)
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] upgraded sqlite (3.8.11.1-2 -> 3.8.11.1-3)
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] installed webkitgtk (2.4.9-1)
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] installed libunique3 (3.0.2-3)
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] installed telepathy-glib (0.24.1-1)
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] installed xapian-core (1:1.2.21-1)
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] installed zeitgeist (0.9.15-2)
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] upgraded midori (0.5.10-1 -> 0.5.11-1)
[2015-09-08 02:31] [ALPM] transaction completed

Everything works fine.
But i noticed zeitgeist was installed and is now running.
Zeitgeist is an efficient activity logger, may be perfect to spy your children activity ...
But i didn't expect that.

Did someone notice same install ?
Why did it install on my system ?
What did i do for that ?
Is that an Arch improvement project ?

My target is to keep my system as simple and light as acceptable for me.
I didn't need zeitgeist as a service.
Is it part of my system update ?
Is it part of Midori update ? (btw midori is no more an option since last update)

You may think i'm just a paranoiac dumb
But i would really appreciate some possible explanations ..

Last edited by otak (2015-09-09 18:21:28)


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#2 2015-09-09 18:10:34

ugjka
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From: Latvia
Registered: 2014-04-01
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Re: [solved] Weird package installed during my last system update

Zeitgeist is a dependency for Midori

Here's what it does:

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/midori … st-history

Zeitgeist's sole reason for existence is to bring the element of human contextual awareness to computer systems, paving the way for more user friendly and easier to use software. That's something we want.

Zeitgeist is designed to efficiently store metadata about user activity. Having another history implementation is both redundant and unnecessary when we can (and should!) just plug into Zeitgeist.

In addition to making browser history available to other apps, Zeitgeist also gives us better intelligent sorting/searching than we could implement on our own. We also get to pull in other relevant data as we see fit.


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#3 2015-09-09 18:17:51

otak
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From: west europe
Registered: 2015-08-01
Posts: 4

Re: [solved] Weird package installed during my last system update

Ok ugjka

i completly agree, i was on the same way ..

I just have now to decide whether i accept this change or not ...

I will give a try ...

I really thank you smile


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#4 2015-09-09 18:21:04

Loose_Control
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From: Germany
Registered: 2011-01-11
Posts: 136

Re: [solved] Weird package installed during my last system update

otak wrote:

Is it part of Midori update ? (btw midori is no more an option since last update)

According to https://www.archlinux.org/packages/comm … 64/midori/ Midori isn't required by any package.

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#5 2015-09-09 18:44:21

otak
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From: west europe
Registered: 2015-08-01
Posts: 4

Re: [solved] Weird package installed during my last system update

Loose_Control wrote:

According to https://www.archlinux.org/packages/comm … 64/midori/ Midori isn't required by any package.

You are right Midori isn't required ... Except if you use it everyday wink

The real surprise is the last midori update ! that added zeitgeist as a system service.

ugjka clarified everything ...

Thank you Loose_Control for your concern smile


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#6 2017-01-01 14:02:26

PhotonX
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From: Munich
Registered: 2008-08-10
Posts: 496

Re: [solved] Weird package installed during my last system update

Is it possible to build Midori without the zeitgeist dependency? The package midori-gtk2 is most likely used by non-Gnome users who won't benefit from zeitgeist anyway. I just recently discovered that zeitgeist is running on my system and was surprised why - turned out it was due to Midori... If Midori can be build without zeitgeist (with some cmake option or something), I'd file a bug report against community/midori-gtk2 and ask to remove the zeitgeist dependency.

edit: Looks like it actually can be built without zeitgeist, so I just went ahead and filed a bug report: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/52326

Another edit: Here is some research about this topic: http://antix.freeforums.org/vigilance-o … ile=mobile

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