How often do you do 'pacman -Syu'?

lang2 · 2006-05-11 22:30:00

??????

ozar · 2006-05-11 23:25:56

I asked the same question a while back. Here's how they answered it then:

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=13046

I now do a full pacman -syu about every other day, unless there's a new kernel or udev in it. If there is, I wait a few days to see what all is gonna break with other users doing the upgrade.

eddy · 2006-05-11 23:49:02

I run it a few times per day.
When I wake up, and when in front of my comp and have a blanc. Like to stay up to date and checkout new features (or have to fix problems) of not too many packages at a time.

iBertus · 2006-05-11 23:49:12

I -Syu everyday but don't always say 'yes' to the prompt.

ralvez · 2006-05-11 23:57:52

I do updates about 3 times a week. Since I use my Linux boxes for business I cannot afford to be down, so I often take a look in the forums to make sure nothing will "go wrong" after an update ;-)

mezoko · 2006-05-12 00:09:58

I use to do it everyday, but now I usually do it other every day, basically whenever I think about it. I usaully just d/l xfce-svn from shadowhands repo.

The_Nerd · 2006-05-12 00:22:24

whenever i find myself logged in as root or whenever i'm bored i tend to Syu just to see if theres anything new out there. Its quite an addictive behavior and i've paid for it a few times when the new Udev was moving into current and taking place of hwd and the old hardware detection.

ToastedToad · 2006-05-12 01:46:18

Daily just for kicks:)

iBertus · 2006-05-12 02:02:36

Just did it again :shock:

briancurtin · 2006-05-12 03:20:03

pretty much every day or every other day

myst · 2006-05-12 07:49:51

Almost every day. Once in a week is more than enough for me, but... it's so cool to stay in sync, and it always just works!

volh · 2006-05-12 10:24:22

I did not. Ever. If I need smth. , I do pacman -Sy $smth
I really don't understand why you guys do pacman -Syu several times a week or even daily.

Is "Arch" an ancient African word meaning "I love to do pacman -Syu" ?

myst · 2006-05-12 10:27:42

"Arch" is ancient African word meaning "Doing whatever I want" )

brain0 · 2006-05-12 13:54:38

At most twice a day, at least once a week. Depending on how much time I have and how big the probability of breaking is (depending on the package names)

volh wrote:

I did not. Ever. If I need smth. , I do pacman -Sy $smth

That's a bad idea, as the new package you install is likely to be incompatible with old installed ones.

volh · 2006-05-12 14:33:39

brain0 wrote:

That's a bad idea, as the new package you install is likely to be incompatible with old installed ones.

What do you mean ? If I would like to install new package , that needs upgrade of , say , ncurses, I will do `pacman -Sy $package` and this command will upgrade ncurses, all other needed dependencies and then install package . Where is incompatibility ? If you mean global changes , then yes , I'll do pacman -Syu.

But to upgrade _everything_ just because of boredom.... no , it is definitely not for me.

dixi

sweiss · 2006-05-12 14:45:29

That's not what he meant. Most packages do not include an explicit version in their dependencies and so if you have old and possibly incompatible version, it might not upgrade it.

You should -Syu every now and then.

volh · 2006-05-12 15:05:37

ok , thanks, I understand that. It is a good point - to keep all _needed_ libraries in sync. I didn't do -Syu because didn't have troubles like that , and of course , will try to upgrade my system periodically. But not daily!

brain0 · 2006-05-12 15:20:45

Well, that's ok. But you should keep the updates small so that you don't update half of the system at once and almost everything breaks. A 2 week upgrade cycle may be a good solution.

arooaroo · 2006-05-12 15:22:38

I used to do it daily (like in most relationships! ) but nowadays I can go for weeks. I deliberately avoid Syuing during times of core package changes, like xorg7. And recently, I have moved house and had been without decent net access and so have gotten used to Syuing when I think it's important.

I've started getting used to stability, and that's something you can't guarantee with Arch. Therefore, I always leave it to the bleedin edge guys to install and discover the bugs before I attempt. (I know that sounds selfish, but at the moment, I don't want to be a sys admin - I just need my laptop to Just Work)

volh · 2006-05-12 15:47:18

But you should keep the updates small so that you don't update half of the system at once and almost everything breaks.

System should not break when I do sysupgrade. It is abnormal and undesirable behavior. I've done upgrade of almost all packages on my debian server today after a long time, and everything works properly. It is normal behavior. If some packages can cause system breakdown , they should be placed to unstable or at list to testing. If they do not cause system breakdown, but only have some changes in configs orand interfaces , then it is more suitable to repair everything at once , not to do small repairs every day or week. IMHO, of course.

A 2 week upgrade cycle may be a good solution.

maybe yes ))

EAD · 2006-05-12 19:40:35

Every hour:)

T-Dawg · 2006-05-12 21:43:47

EAD wrote:

Every hour:)

Thats completely unnecessary. The servers sync once or twice a day, so Syu'ing once or twice a day should be suffice. Doing it every hour is a waste of bandwidth on the servers and I would strongly suggest people not to do so.

slackhack · 2006-05-12 21:59:26

usually on mondays and fridays. why? i don't know, it seems to keep me going through the week without having to worry too much about it.

rezza · 2006-05-12 22:26:46

Whenever I remember to, which can be 2 times a day or once a week.

brain0 · 2006-05-12 22:44:23

volh wrote:

System should not break when I do sysupgrade. It is abnormal and undesirable behavior. I've done upgrade of almost all packages on my debian server today after a long time, and everything works properly. It is normal behavior.

First of all, never compare to Debian. It's forbidden or something.

Archlinux is a bleeding edge distro and thus introduces new technologies and removed old ones, thus things change, actually those changes are made every single day. Often these changes require manual modifications by the user. If you update like 200 packages, you will miss the install messages and will most likely not notice that you have to customize something yourself and your stuff WILL break.

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