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#1 2006-05-13 11:00:04

HXC
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Problems setting up X

I can't get X started no matter what I try  sad I have installed the ati-fgrlx drivers. did a aticonfig, modprobe fglrx gives me an error just as startx. i tried to run xorgconfig with the most basis settings (vesa, ati, radeon) still no luck. I am running out of ideas...

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#2 2006-05-13 11:10:37

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Re: Problems setting up X

do you have installed the modules (xf86-video-ati... xf86-video-vesa etc)?
(pacman -Syu ; pacman -S xf86-video-ati)
can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?


mattux

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#3 2006-05-13 11:18:02

HXC
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Re: Problems setting up X

I have installed xorg with a Pacman -S xorg and the ati-fglrx drivers. Should I install more (modules)?

Edit: I installed xf86-video-ati module too. Still nothing...
Edit 2: I installed xorg-input-drivers and xorg-video-drivers. No succes either  :?

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#4 2006-05-13 22:22:28

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Re: Problems setting up X

Have you tried using hwd to create your xorg.conf? 

$ pacman -S hwd
$ hwd -x
$ mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.hwd /etc/X11/xorg.conf

See  http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#hwd

"I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance."
- Socrates

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#5 2006-05-13 22:41:35

iphitus
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Re: Problems setting up X

We're guessing blindly here.

Please give us some errors, and /var/log/Xorg.log.0

James

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#6 2006-05-13 23:51:44

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Re: Problems setting up X

HXC wrote:

modprobe fglrx gives me an error

What error?

HXC wrote:

just as startx.

What error?

Seriously, we can't do much without knowing what's going wrong.

Can you post the output of 

pacman -Q ati-fglrx ati-fglrx-utils

What kernel are you using?

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#7 2006-05-14 12:11:46

brain0
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Re: Problems setting up X

HXC wrote:

I have installed the ati-fgrlx drivers. did a aticonfig, modprobe fglrx gives me an error

The ati-fglrx driver always matches the current kernel26 version. If you don't have the current kernel26, you don't have the right kernel module. Check this by doing 

pacman -Q kernel26 ati-fglrx

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#8 2006-05-14 17:41:02

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Re: Problems setting up X

I did a default install of Arch (base system).  Did a Pacman -syu and pacman -S kde pacman -S xorg. Then a xorgconfig.

1st xorgconfig with vesa
2nd xorgfonfig with radeon/ati

The error I got was: couldn't load module vesa/radeon/ati

Then I installed the standard (not beyond) fglrx drivers. Did a xorgconfig and aticonfig. Startx gave me a 'couldn't load module fglrx.'

Then I installed the latest beyondkernel with beyond fglrx drivers. Did a xorg.config and aticonfig, same error.

I am littile lost here. What else could I try?

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#9 2006-05-15 09:05:03

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Re: Problems setting up X

Here's my xorg.log.0 before installing fglrx:

http://pastebin.com/720144

Not everything fits so here's the rest:

(**) Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
(**) USB Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/mice"
(**) USB Mouse: Protocol: "IMPS/2"
(**) Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
(**) USB Mouse: always reports core events
(**) Option "CorePointer"
(**) USB Mouse: Core Pointer
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
(**) Option "Buttons" "5"
(==) USB Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
(**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
(**) USB Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) USB Mouse: Buttons: 9
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "USB Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) USB Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.

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#10 2006-05-15 14:41:26

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Re: Problems setting up X

And here with fglrx:

http://pastebin.com/720150

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#11 2006-05-15 16:50:35

sebcactus
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Re: Problems setting up X

We can't see all the output. Either give a link to your Xorg.0.log or you can just do:

cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep "(EE)"

to get the errors.

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#12 2006-05-15 17:46:25

HXC
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Re: Problems setting up X

marmotte wrote:

We can't see all the output. Either give a link to your Xorg.0.log or you can just do:

cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep "(EE)"

to get the errors.

Thanks for your suggestion. Do you know where I can upload the log?

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#13 2006-05-15 17:56:18

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Re: Problems setting up X

http://pastebin.com/

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#14 2006-05-15 17:58:15

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Re: Problems setting up X

http://pastebin.com/
BTW, have you tried Xorg -configure?

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#15 2006-05-16 07:15:22

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Re: Problems setting up X

Done! Thanks for the info. btw I configured xorg with hwd.

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#16 2006-05-16 12:16:25

HXC
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Re: Problems setting up X

"solved" by installing underground linux which come with xorg 7 + kde preconfigured. I would appreciate it though if someone could shine some light   in what went wrong

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#17 2006-05-16 15:55:40

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Re: Problems setting up X

As said before we also need your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
And what are the modules loaded (output of lsmod).

The path for the TTF fonts is /usr/share/fonts/TTF
The other fonts have not been installed.
(pacman -Ss xorg-fonts to find some)

PS:Sorry for not having answered sooner, I thought you had fixed it with hwd (misunderstanding).

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#18 2006-05-16 17:42:38

HXC
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Re: Problems setting up X

Here's my xorg from a fresh install (witgout fglrx): 

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    RgbPath      "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "dbe"
    Load  "record"
    Load  "xtrap"
    Load  "dri"
    Load  "freetype"
    Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver      "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Mouse0"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option        "Protocol" "auto"
    Option        "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option        "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "Monitor0"
    VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
    ModelName    "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "ShadowFB"               # [<bool>]
        #Option     "DefaultRefresh"         # [<bool>]
        #Option     "ModeSetClearScreen"     # [<bool>]
    Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver      "vesa"
    VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
    BoardName   "RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]"
    BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device     "Card0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     1
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     4
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     8
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     15
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     16
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

I have trouble giving the output of lsmod from the commandline.

@marmotte I appreciate you help smile

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#19 2006-05-16 21:01:49

sebcactus
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Re: Problems setting up X

HXC wrote:

I have trouble giving the output of lsmod from the commandline.

What kind of problem? If you can't get the output just do: 

lsmod > mylsmod.txt

And edit mylsmod.txt to view your lsmod output.

Here is some correction of your xorg.conf (taking into account mine, probably not perfect but workin), I put some comments too. 

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier     "X.org Configured"
   Screen        "Screen0"
   InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
   InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
   RgbPath      "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
   ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

# My modules seem different try those
Section "Module"
   Load  "dbe"
   SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection
   Load  "freetype"
   Load  "glx"
   Load  "dri"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
   Driver      "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Mouse0"
   Driver      "mouse"
   Option       "Protocol" "auto"
   Option       "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
   Option       "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier   "Monitor0"
   VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
   ModelName    "Monitor Model"
   # You may add: (change the values according to your monitor)
   # HorizSync  31.5 - 64.3
   # VertRefresh 50-100

EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Card0"
   Driver      "vesa"        # TRY "vga" or "radeon" or "fglrx" depending on the driver you want to use
   VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
   BoardName   "RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]"
   BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device     "Card0"
   Monitor    "Monitor0"
   DefaultDepth 24               # CHANGE
   SubSection "Display"
      Viewport   0 0
      Depth     1
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Viewport   0 0
      Depth     4
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Viewport   0 0
      Depth     8
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Viewport   0 0
      Depth     15
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Viewport   0 0
      Depth     16
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Viewport   0 0
      Depth     24
   EndSubSection
EndSection 

Section "DRI"
    Mode 0666
 EndSection

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#20 2006-05-17 07:27:56

HXC
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Re: Problems setting up X

I tried the modified xorg.conf. Unfortunatly it didn't work  sad Here's mys lsmod:

Module                  Size  Used by
ipv6                  250560  8 
nls_cp437               5760  1 
vfat                   11008  1 
fat                    48540  1 vfat
usbhid                 47392  0 
eth1394                18180  0 
snd_mixer_oss          16384  0 
shpchp                 43872  0 
pci_hotplug            25668  1 shpchp
snd_rawmidi            20512  0 
snd_ac97_bus            2176  0 
snd_seq_device          6924  1 snd_rawmidi
snd_timer              20100  0 
snd_page_alloc          8200  0 
joydev                  8512  0 
evdev                   8192  0 
amd64_agp              10564  1 
snd_util_mem            3840  0 
snd_hwdep               7428  0 
snd                    46432  5 snd_mixer_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
soundcore               7776  1 snd
sk98lin               167904  0 
skge                   35088  0 
emu10k1_gp              3072  0 
ohci1394               31664  0 
ieee1394               88152  2 eth1394,ohci1394
serio_raw               5892  0 
ehci_hcd               29960  0 
parport_pc             25196  1 
ppdev                   7812  0 
lp                      9856  0 
ppp_generic            27156  0 
slhc                    6656  1 ppp_generic
uhci_hcd               29712  0 
usbcore               116256  4 usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
analog                 10144  0 
gameport               11656  3 emu10k1_gp,analog
irtty_sir               5632  0 
sir_dev                14668  1 irtty_sir
irda                  126648  1 sir_dev
crc_ccitt               2176  1 irda
rtc                    10932  0 
i2c_viapro              7700  0 
pcspkr                  2948  0 
i2c_core               17792  1 i2c_viapro
fglrx                 467744  0 
agpgart                27108  2 amd64_agp,fglrx
xfs                   593004  1 
reiserfs              256880  0 
jfs                   187004  0 
ext3                  127880  0 
jbd                    56212  1 ext3
sata_qstor              7556  0 
sata_promise            9092  0 
sata_sil24              9476  0 
sata_nv                 7044  0 
sata_mv                16008  0 
sata_vsc                6148  0 
sata_via                6020  0 
sata_uli                4868  0 
sata_svw                5764  0 
sata_sx4               11780  0 
sata_sis                5636  0 
sata_sil                7432  0 
mptfc                  10120  0 
mptspi                  6536  0 
mptsas                 16652  0 
mptctl                 23044  0 
mptscsih               32336  3 mptfc,mptspi,mptsas
mptbase                46308  5 mptfc,mptspi,mptsas,mptctl,mptscsih
megaraid_mbox          25232  0 
megaraid_sas           24492  0 
megaraid_mm             9380  1 megaraid_mbox
ata_piix                8324  0 
osst                   51616  0 
megaraid               37700  0 
sym53c8xx              74260  0 
atp870u                30848  0 
aha152x                37304  0 
aic79xx               272596  0 
aic7xxx               177840  0 
ahci                   11396  0 
pdc_adma                7556  0 
libata                 54284  15 sata_qstor,sata_promise,sata_sil24,sata_nv,sata_mv,sata_vsc,sata_via,sata_uli,sata_svw,sata_sx4,sata_sis,sata_sil,ata_piix,ahci,pdc_adma
raid_class              4992  0 
nsp32                  23828  0 
aacraid                56832  0 
ipr                    59424  0 
imm                    11016  0 
parport                33864  4 parport_pc,ppdev,lp,imm
3w_xxxx                25248  0 
tmscsim                20800  0 
dc395x                 33552  0 
3w_9xxx                31520  0 
a100u2w                 9408  0 
BusLogic               23332  0 
sr_mod                 15140  0 
qlogicfas408            6664  0 
st                     35744  0 
sg                     27804  0 
dmx3191d               11392  0 
lpfc                  157120  0 
scsi_transport_sas     15360  1 mptsas
qla1280               117132  0 
sd_mod                 14976  0 
ide_floppy             16000  0 
ide_cd                 37792  0 
cdrom                  36144  2 sr_mod,ide_cd
ide_disk               14336  5 
via82cxxx               8836  0 [permanent]
trm290                  4228  0 [permanent]
triflex                 3328  0 [permanent]
slc90e66                5248  0 [permanent]
sis5513                13196  0 [permanent]
siimage                10624  0 [permanent]
serverworks             8328  0 [permanent]
sc1200                  6656  0 [permanent]
rz1000                  2560  0 [permanent]
piix                    9476  0 [permanent]
pdc202xx_old            9984  0 [permanent]
pdc202xx_new            8448  0 [permanent]
ns87415                 4012  0 [permanent]
it821x                  7684  0 [permanent]
hpt366                 18048  0 [permanent]
hpt34x                  4608  0 [permanent]
generic                 4356  0 [permanent]
cy82c693                4228  0 [permanent]
cs5530                  5120  0 [permanent]
cmd64x                 10780  0 [permanent]
atiixp                  5520  0 [permanent]
amd74xx                14364  0 [permanent]
alim15x3               11280  0 [permanent]
aec62xx                 6912  0 [permanent]
ide_core              116940  27 ide_floppy,ide_cd,ide_disk,via82cxxx,trm290,triflex,slc90e66,sis5513,siimage,serverworks,sc1200,rz1000,piix,pdc202xx_old,pdc202xx_new,ns87415,it821x,hpt366,hpt34x,generic,cy82c693,cs5530,cmd64x,atiixp,amd74xx,alim15x3,aec62xx

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#21 2006-05-17 11:08:42

sebcactus
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Re: Problems setting up X

NB : You should clean your initrd (look at the wiki). But that souldn't affect the behaviour of X.

Try to remove the BusID line in the section Device of xorg.conf.
Did you try "vga", "radeon" and "fglrx" ?

What is your output of: 

pacman -Q |grep xf86

and

pacman -Q |grep xorg

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#22 2006-05-18 12:23:40

HXC
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Re: Problems setting up X

I tried everything (including "vga", "radeon" and "fglrx") nothing is working.  :? I think the problem is related to this message: 

FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.

this appears everywhere.

Edit: I am sorry to say that I am switching back to gentoo. Despite all our efforts I didn't manage to get an working xserver. Thanks for the help!

pacman -Q |grep xf86

libxxf86dga 1.0.1-1
libxxf86misc 1.0.1-1
libxxf86vm 1.0.1-1
xf86-input-acecad 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-aiptek 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-calcomp 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-citron 2.1.1.5-1
xf86-input-digitaledge 1.0.1.3-1
xf86-input-dmc 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-dynapro 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-elo2300 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-elographics 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-evdev 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-fpit 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-hyperpen 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-joystick 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-keyboard 1.0.1.3-1
xf86-input-magellan 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-magictouch 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-microtouch 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-mouse 1.0.4-1
xf86-input-mutouch 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-palmax 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-penmount 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-spaceorb 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-summa 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-tek4957 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-ur98 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-input-void 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-video-apm 1.0.1.5-1
xf86-video-ark 0.5.0.5-1
xf86-video-ati 6.5.8.0-1
xf86-video-chips 1.0.1.3-1
xf86-video-cirrus 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-video-dummy 0.1.0.5-1
xf86-video-fbdev 0.1.0.5-1
xf86-video-glint 1.0.1.3-1
xf86-video-i128 1.1.0.5-1
xf86-video-i740 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-video-i810 1.4.1.3-2
xf86-video-imstt 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-video-mga 1.2.1.3-2
xf86-video-neomagic 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-video-nv 1.0.2.0-1
xf86-video-rendition 4.0.1.3-1
xf86-video-s3virge 1.8.6.5-1
xf86-video-savage 2.0.2.3-1
xf86-video-sis 0.8.1.3-1
xf86-video-sisusb 0.7.1.3-1
xf86-video-tdfx 1.1.1.3-1
xf86-video-tseng 1.0.0.5-1
xf86-video-v4l 0.0.1.5-1
xf86-video-vesa 1.0.1.3-1
xf86-video-vga 4.0.0.5-1
xf86-video-via 0.1.33.2-1
xf86-video-vmware 10.12.0.0-1
xf86-video-voodoo 1.0.0.5-1
xf86dgaproto 2.0.2-1
xf86miscproto 0.9.2-1
xf86vidmodeproto 2.2.2-1

pacman -Q |grep xorg

xorg 11R7.0-1
xorg-font-utils 1.0.1-1
xorg-fonts-alias 1.0.1-1
xorg-fonts-encodings 1.0.0-1
xorg-fonts-misc 1.0.0-2
xorg-server 1.0.2-2
xorg-server-utils 1.0.1-1
xorg-utils 1.0.1-1
xorg-xauth 1.0.1-1
xorg-xinit 1.0.2-1
xorg-xkb-utils 1.0.2-1

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#23 2006-05-19 10:51:46

sebcactus
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Re: Problems setting up X

That's very surprising (the fact you can't have your x server working), I hoped somebody could have helped you sad

The last idea I would have would to remove and reinstall X
(sudo pacman -Rcs xorg-server and then pacman -S xorg-server xf86-video-ati)

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#24 2006-05-24 17:17:48

HXC
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Re: Problems setting up X

I tried Arch 7.2 but I get exact the same errors...  :?

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#25 2006-05-24 18:00:50

sebcactus
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Re: Problems setting up X

From a fresh install??

I hope someone more competent than me will come to your help because I am afraid I can't sad

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