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#1 2016-07-22 06:51:04

nammidd
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DE freezes at start

Hello, I'm very new in Linux (especially in arch), when i start my system, in couple of seconds it freezes forever (at least some parts of DE, such as Activities) and cause crash of my docky, i forced to enter r in ALT+F2 and start again my dock, further work of system looks OK. Could you not help me to find out what is causing the problem and how to fix it? Because as i said i am newbie in Linux and i don't know how to examine this problem, i don't have something else in boot list except docky (docky doesn't cause the problem, i tried to turn him off).

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#2 2016-07-22 07:07:11

dockland
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Re: DE freezes at start

nammidd wrote:

Hello, I'm very new in Linux (especially in arch), when i start my system, in couple of seconds it freezes forever (at least some parts of DE, such as Activities) and cause crash of my docky, i forced to enter r in ALT+F2 and start again my dock, further work of system looks OK. Could you not help me to find out what is causing the problem and how to fix it? Because as i said i am newbie in Linux and i don't know how to examine this problem, i don't have something else in boot list except docky (docky doesn't cause the problem, i tried to turn him off).

How did you install Arch?


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#3 2016-07-22 07:20:52

nammidd
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Re: DE freezes at start

dockland wrote:
nammidd wrote:

Hello, I'm very new in Linux (especially in arch), when i start my system, in couple of seconds it freezes forever (at least some parts of DE, such as Activities) and cause crash of my docky, i forced to enter r in ALT+F2 and start again my dock, further work of system looks OK. Could you not help me to find out what is causing the problem and how to fix it? Because as i said i am newbie in Linux and i don't know how to examine this problem, i don't have something else in boot list except docky (docky doesn't cause the problem, i tried to turn him off).

How did you install Arch?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_guide
It pretty easy to install arch, there will be something on the topic? Or are you just come in Newbie Corner to ask a question "how did you install arch"?

Last edited by nammidd (2016-07-22 07:32:19)

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#4 2016-07-22 07:39:01

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Re: DE freezes at start

It's a valid question, nammidd, no need to wet your panties over this.

Now, elaborate in an orderly fashion, what exactly happens. What DE? What are activities? How do you start X? What do the logs say? Post log outputs. Read "man journalctl".

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#5 2016-07-22 07:40:33

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Re: DE freezes at start

nammidd wrote:
dockland wrote:
nammidd wrote:

Hello, I'm very new in Linux (especially in arch), when i start my system, in couple of seconds it freezes forever (at least some parts of DE, such as Activities) and cause crash of my docky, i forced to enter r in ALT+F2 and start again my dock, further work of system looks OK. Could you not help me to find out what is causing the problem and how to fix it? Because as i said i am newbie in Linux and i don't know how to examine this problem, i don't have something else in boot list except docky (docky doesn't cause the problem, i tried to turn him off).

How did you install Arch?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_guide
It pretty easy to install arch, there will be something on the topic? Or are you just come in Newbie Corner to ask a question "how did you install arch"?

There are so many installers and "helpers" out there that is not supported. Thats why i asked.

Post your output of:

systemctl status
systemd-analyze blame
systemctl --failed


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#6 2016-07-22 07:42:52

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Re: DE freezes at start

You should specify which DE you are using.
Usually with this kind of issues, the first thing you should check is systemd journal for any errors.

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#7 2016-07-22 08:02:49

nammidd
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Re: DE freezes at start

I am using gnome 3.20, in systemctl everything is ok and system is up to date either.

systemd-analyze blame

           956ms home-saddam-D.mount
           816ms home-saddam-E.mount
           272ms dnsmasq.service
           169ms dev-sda2.device
           121ms systemd-timesyncd.service
           114ms systemd-journald.service
           108ms accounts-daemon.service
           101ms upower.service
            60ms systemd-journal-flush.service
            58ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
            46ms udisks2.service
            44ms systemd-udevd.service
            41ms systemd-modules-load.service
            39ms polkit.service
            31ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
            31ms gdm.service
            31ms user@1000.service
            29ms dhcpcd.service
            29ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
            21ms user@120.service
            13ms systemd-binfmt.service
            12ms geoclue.service
            11ms colord.service
            10ms tmp.mount

systemctl status

● arch
    State: running
     Jobs: 0 queued
   Failed: 0 units
   CGroup: /
           ├─init.scope
           │ └─1 /sbin/init
           ├─system.slice
           │ ├─tor.service
           │ │ └─459 /usr/bin/tor -f /etc/tor/torrc
           │ ├─dbus.service
           │ │ └─447 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation
           │ ├─dhcpcd.service
           │ │ └─453 /usr/bin/dhcpcd -q -b
           │ ├─wpa_supplicant.service
           │ │ └─665 /usr/bin/wpa_supplicant -u
           │ ├─home-saddam-D.mount
           │ │ └─439 /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /home/saddam/D -o rw,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=0
           │ ├─accounts-daemon.service
           │ │ └─480 /usr/lib/accountsservice/accounts-daemon
           │ ├─colord.service
           │ │ └─672 /usr/lib/colord/colord
           │ ├─systemd-journald.service
           │ │ └─224 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-journald
           │ ├─home-saddam-E.mount
           │ │ └─438 /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2 /home/saddam/E -o rw,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=0
           │ ├─udisks2.service
           │ │ └─844 /usr/lib/udisks2/udisksd --no-debug
           │ ├─dnsmasq.service
           │ │ └─477 /usr/bin/dnsmasq -k --enable-dbus --user=dnsmasq --pid-file
           │ ├─upower.service
           │ │ └─519 /usr/lib/upower/upowerd
           │ ├─systemd-timesyncd.service
           │ │ └─443 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-timesyncd
           │ ├─systemd-logind.service
           │ │ └─456 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-logind
           │ ├─systemd-udevd.service
           │ │ └─256 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
           │ ├─polkit.service
           │ │ └─484 /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --no-debug
           │ ├─gdm.service
           │ │ └─468 /usr/bin/gdm
           │ ├─geoclue.service
           │ │ └─831 /usr/lib/geoclue2/geoclue -t 5
           │ └─rtkit-daemon.service
           │   └─645 /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon
           └─user.slice
             ├─user-1000.slice
             │ ├─user@1000.service
             │ │ ├─gvfs-daemon.service
             │ │ │ ├─773 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
             │ │ │ └─778 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000/gvfs -f -o big_writes
             │ │ ├─dbus.service
             │ │ │ ├─765 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --session --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation
             │ │ │ ├─836 /usr/lib/telepathy/mission-control-5
             │ │ │ └─898 /usr/lib/GConf/gconfd-2
             │ │ ├─at-spi-dbus-bus.service
             │ │ │ ├─791 /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi-bus-launcher
             │ │ │ ├─796 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 3
             │ │ │ └─799 /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session
             │ │ ├─pulseaudio.service
             │ │ │ └─819 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no
             │ │ ├─gvfs-afc-volume-monitor.service
             │ │ │ └─856 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
             │ │ ├─init.scope

systemctl --failed

0 loaded units listed. Pass --all to see loaded but inactive units, too.
To show all installed unit files use 'systemctl list-unit-files'.

Last edited by nammidd (2016-07-22 08:18:08)

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#8 2016-07-22 09:06:46

dockland
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From: Sweden
Registered: 2015-06-06
Posts: 861

Re: DE freezes at start

nammidd wrote:

I am using gnome 3.20, in systemctl everything is ok and system is up to date either.

systemd-analyze blame

           956ms home-saddam-D.mount
           816ms home-saddam-E.mount
           272ms dnsmasq.service
           169ms dev-sda2.device
           121ms systemd-timesyncd.service
           114ms systemd-journald.service
           108ms accounts-daemon.service
           101ms upower.service
            60ms systemd-journal-flush.service
            58ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
            46ms udisks2.service
            44ms systemd-udevd.service
            41ms systemd-modules-load.service
            39ms polkit.service
            31ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
            31ms gdm.service
            31ms user@1000.service
            29ms dhcpcd.service
            29ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
            21ms user@120.service
            13ms systemd-binfmt.service
            12ms geoclue.service
            11ms colord.service
            10ms tmp.mount

systemctl status

● arch
    State: running
     Jobs: 0 queued
   Failed: 0 units
   CGroup: /
           ├─init.scope
           │ └─1 /sbin/init
           ├─system.slice
           │ ├─tor.service
           │ │ └─459 /usr/bin/tor -f /etc/tor/torrc
           │ ├─dbus.service
           │ │ └─447 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation
           │ ├─dhcpcd.service
           │ │ └─453 /usr/bin/dhcpcd -q -b
           │ ├─wpa_supplicant.service
           │ │ └─665 /usr/bin/wpa_supplicant -u
           │ ├─home-saddam-D.mount
           │ │ └─439 /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /home/saddam/D -o rw,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=0
           │ ├─accounts-daemon.service
           │ │ └─480 /usr/lib/accountsservice/accounts-daemon
           │ ├─colord.service
           │ │ └─672 /usr/lib/colord/colord
           │ ├─systemd-journald.service
           │ │ └─224 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-journald
           │ ├─home-saddam-E.mount
           │ │ └─438 /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2 /home/saddam/E -o rw,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=0
           │ ├─udisks2.service
           │ │ └─844 /usr/lib/udisks2/udisksd --no-debug
           │ ├─dnsmasq.service
           │ │ └─477 /usr/bin/dnsmasq -k --enable-dbus --user=dnsmasq --pid-file
           │ ├─upower.service
           │ │ └─519 /usr/lib/upower/upowerd
           │ ├─systemd-timesyncd.service
           │ │ └─443 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-timesyncd
           │ ├─systemd-logind.service
           │ │ └─456 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-logind
           │ ├─systemd-udevd.service
           │ │ └─256 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
           │ ├─polkit.service
           │ │ └─484 /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --no-debug
           │ ├─gdm.service
           │ │ └─468 /usr/bin/gdm
           │ ├─geoclue.service
           │ │ └─831 /usr/lib/geoclue2/geoclue -t 5
           │ └─rtkit-daemon.service
           │   └─645 /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon
           └─user.slice
             ├─user-1000.slice
             │ ├─user@1000.service
             │ │ ├─gvfs-daemon.service
             │ │ │ ├─773 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
             │ │ │ └─778 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000/gvfs -f -o big_writes
             │ │ ├─dbus.service
             │ │ │ ├─765 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --session --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation
             │ │ │ ├─836 /usr/lib/telepathy/mission-control-5
             │ │ │ └─898 /usr/lib/GConf/gconfd-2
             │ │ ├─at-spi-dbus-bus.service
             │ │ │ ├─791 /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi-bus-launcher
             │ │ │ ├─796 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 3
             │ │ │ └─799 /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session
             │ │ ├─pulseaudio.service
             │ │ │ └─819 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no
             │ │ ├─gvfs-afc-volume-monitor.service
             │ │ │ └─856 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
             │ │ ├─init.scope

systemctl --failed

0 loaded units listed. Pass --all to see loaded but inactive units, too.
To show all installed unit files use 'systemctl list-unit-files'.

Kan you monitor with htop or glances from start, to see what processes that might have hig CPU or RAM-load?


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#9 2016-07-22 09:39:09

nammidd
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Registered: 2016-07-22
Posts: 6

Re: DE freezes at start

dockland
only gnome shell 3, 4 %, maximum 30.

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