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#1 2016-09-15 06:31:23

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Changing Bootloaders [Solved]

Before I get the message "Read before you write". I have been looking around, a lot.

I was having issues getting plymouth to function properly, so far, from boot, I get 1 line of text followed by what seems to be an attemp to run the plymouth theme 'glow'. From then on it boots fine straight into gdm.
I was looking at this link:
https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-reinsta … Arch-Linux
And was wondering if this would actually work without breaking my system.

Any feedback on how to fix my issue without swapping bootloaders would be great and much appreciated.
Thank you
-nahte


EDIT: Forgot to mention I am using systemd currently and wish to move to grub

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#2 2016-09-15 06:58:45

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Re: Changing Bootloaders [Solved]

systemd is not a boot loader. What are you currently using?

Also, don't follow third party tutorials, they are always out-of-date, wrong, or in most cases both. Use the wiki.


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#3 2016-09-15 07:20:59

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Re: Changing Bootloaders [Solved]

Well I thought the bootloader was systemd, I am new to arch and have been used to automated installs, evidently. Well I don't have a grub install, that is for sure, and when I looked at this link, I thought it said systemd was infact a bootloader. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ca … ot_loaders

(systemd-boot)

I'm booted through UEFI mode and had to format the /boot partition with mkfs.fat -F32 /dev/sdb1

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#4 2016-09-15 07:26:35

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Re: Changing Bootloaders [Solved]

systemd is the init system. systemd-boot is a boot manager.

You can change to grub if you like (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GR … allation_2), but you are probably better off figuring out why plymouth isn't working.


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#5 2016-09-15 07:30:40

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Re: Changing Bootloaders [Solved]

I know exactly why it isn't working, all the tutorials i've followed are for grub, I've attempted to alter the tutorial to suite my sitiuation. I installed plymouth, added the theme, changed the hook, added quiet splash.
This part of the tutorial I could not do: sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
I looked through my files to find one with similar contents but was unsuccessful.


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#6 2016-09-15 07:32:54

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Re: Changing Bootloaders [Solved]

So would there be no need to uninstall my current bootloader in that process? Just intall grub as the wiki suggests? Thank you for your help.


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#7 2016-09-15 07:39:08

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Re: Changing Bootloaders [Solved]

The grub-mkconfig command is not necessary with systemd-boot: you don't need to autogenerate your config for it to work, it is just a couple of simple text files.

I think you are wasting your time with plymouth; the reason it just shows up as a flicker is that there is no time for it to load; UEFI booting is so much faster than BIOS, you don't need, or have time, for that sort of eye candy.


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#8 2016-09-15 07:43:08

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Re: Changing Bootloaders [Solved]

Makes sense; 4 seconds boots. So I'll disable plymouth and change quiet splash to quiet. Thanks for the help

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#9 2016-09-15 07:45:04

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#10 2016-09-15 07:51:47

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Re: Changing Bootloaders [Solved]

Well I unhooked it and the same animation plays (I haven't removed quiet splash yet), so I'm coming to believe that maybe plymouth isn't running at all but rather a stock 'splash' screen that comes with adding splash to the boot config? I don't know, I'll quickly disable the quiet splash, reboot, and check again.

(the animation is a circle filling in clockwise)


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#11 2016-09-15 08:03:53

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Re: Changing Bootloaders [Solved]

Okay, so it was quiet splash that added what I thought was a malfunctioning plymouth.
I followed this tutorial: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Plymouth
So I don't see why it didn't do anything. I might have missed a step but as jasonwryan pointed out, there really is no point in using plymouth as my system boots quite fast.
Over and out.

Edit: Looking into it again already, the plymouth theme :glow (which I set) was actually functioning but really poorly. Im dropping this all together and leaving the idea of plymouth behind.

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#12 2016-09-15 08:07:13

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Re: Changing Bootloaders [Solved]

Please remember to mark your thread as [Solved] by editing your first post and prepending it to the title.


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#13 2016-09-15 08:10:26

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Re: Changing Bootloaders [Solved]

Done wink

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