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#1 2016-12-10 20:19:55

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Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

He has been asked to desist creating new accounts but has not. His IP address, apparently a university in Germany, has been banned, but he continues using throwaway email addresses.

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You can contact him at: dennis.ludwig@live.de


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#2 2016-12-10 20:59:35

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

Searching a little through the web, with 22 years, he's got an impressive track record of vampirism (combined with distro-hopping) and trolling (at least on Ubuntu).

(see post #11 below)

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#3 2016-12-10 21:19:53

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

It does not surprise me in the least that he has a track record of trolling other communities.


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#4 2016-12-10 23:18:40

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

I mean no disrespect to you JWR, or any of this community's moderating team, but I have to say: I've gotten a good laugh from this incident. Thank you for keeping the place running so smoothly!

I'm curious, since we are on the topic of IP bans and what not, does Arch/related sites and servers block proxy servers? If this individual was really determined to earn a extra-length permanent ban, what's to stop him from hiding under some sort of proxy and trying (failing) again?


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#5 2016-12-11 01:16:43

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

JohnBobSmith wrote:

I mean no disrespect to you JWR, or any of this community's moderating team, but I have to say: I've gotten a good laugh from this incident. Thank you for keeping the place running so smoothly!

I'm curious, since we are on the topic of IP bans and what not, does Arch/related sites and servers block proxy servers? If this individual was really determined to earn a extra-length permanent ban, what's to stop him from hiding under some sort of proxy and trying (failing) again?

He keeps asking about pacman -Rss vs -Rs, so I'm not sure it matters.  Even posting on this thread?


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#6 2016-12-11 06:07:21

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

The difference between "pacman -Rss" and "pacman -Rs" is clearly stated in "man pacman" anyway.

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#7 2016-12-11 21:34:16

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

I dunno, if he is new to forums, he maybe just has been surprized that someone with "Anarchist" title is deleting his posts for no apparent reason.  (The "only one distro support" rule is not so widespread on Linux formus.)


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#8 2016-12-11 21:45:42

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

Oh, they know what they are doing. They were told to seek support on their distribution's support channels before this saga started.


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#9 2016-12-11 21:47:39

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

1. He isn't new to forums: he has a history. See #2
2. I linked to the Code of Conduct, so his posts weren't being deleted "for no reason"
3. Creating eleven more accounts just to harass the staff is not the action of someone who is confused or unfamiliar with a new distro


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#10 2016-12-11 21:53:15

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

Then my guess was wrong. I was just wondering why he indeed didn't asked on that distro's forums.


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#11 2016-12-12 07:27:20

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As much as I am convinced that they are all the same person, I have come to the conclusion that the references I have provided in post #2 lack any kind of evidence, so I would like to retract my statement.

The only evidence we've got is obviously his trolling on these forums. The rest would just be allegations - after all, we have to behave correctly, too.


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#12 2016-12-12 17:29:40

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

Ban evasion is frowned upon in every community I've been in, not just Arch ones. It is the hallmark of a troll. In many communities, evading a ban is grounds for extending the duration of the ban or making it permanent.

Also, the forums displays the reason to a banned user when they try to log in.


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#13 2016-12-13 01:12:43

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

fsckd wrote:

Also, the forums displays the reason to a banned user when they try to log in.

I can't imagine this guys face if he saw a message like "You have been permanently banned for trolling." Haha! You could even "troll the troll" with these types of messages, if one dares to that far.


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#14 2016-12-13 01:53:32

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

JohnBobSmith wrote:

Haha! You could even "troll the troll" with these types of messages, if one dares to that far.

One could.  I prefer to ignore them; except for closing their accounts.


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#15 2016-12-13 22:06:19

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

JohnBobSmith wrote:

You could even "troll the troll" with these types of messages, if one dares to that far.

I have known that to happen on one of the boards on which I am numbered amongst the "staff" big_smile

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#16 2016-12-13 23:26:54

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

Can't we contact the university for abuse?  Most universities have policies on their internet usage such as no porn, torrenting, etc.

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#17 2016-12-13 23:30:11

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

This is being handled out of the public view.  Please, no virtual pitchforks or torches.


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#18 2016-12-14 00:16:42

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

I did not intend to grab my pitchfork, although it does need some polish and love  smile  My intent was that reporting to his university might be a valid way to resolve this issue until Dennis Ludwig calms down or moves on.  People often feel invincible on the net until we knock on doors.

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#19 2016-12-14 11:56:50

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

Forget it - German universities employ much more liberal interpretations of "abuse", "insult", "harrassment" or "porn" than their North American counterparts. Spamming, trolling, spreading fake news may be a PITA, but they are not strictly illegal or criminal. Issues of privacy and freedom of information will always be ranked higher at this side of the pond, even if they may molest others.

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#20 2016-12-14 12:44:15

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

ewaller wrote:

One could.  I prefer to ignore them; except for closing their accounts.

doing anything else seems to give them too much lagitimacy and what seems to be the phychology if not  driven by some ideology or grievance.

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#21 2016-12-17 14:24:45

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Re: Dennis Ludwig is trolling Arch Linux BBS

If you want to pull a rat from a cage full of mice, you need to think like a rat, by isolating it!
Keep a trap so that only the rat's know a way out of the cage; create a new thread just for this exceptional creature, locate its location and ("BANG") report the location to the cops, they will catch him.


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