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#1 2017-01-20 02:56:40

skunktrader
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[Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

Seeing that webkitgtk is being dropped due to numerous security concerns, what alternatives are available for viewing html formatted mail messages? claws-mail 3.14.1-2 has removed support for fancy html plugin

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#2 2017-01-20 03:30:32

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

Within claws you can only use whatever is built into claws.  Are they replacing webkitgtk with something else?

If you're looking outside of claws, then *any* webbrowser can open the html part of emails.


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#3 2017-01-20 08:58:40

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

I wonder the same thing, since the fancy plugin that claws-mail uses to render html mails, is missing in action after the latest claws-mail release...

And no, I do not think claws-mail is replacing with something else, it seems like arch has chosen for them...

Last edited by bjorntj (2017-01-20 09:00:41)


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#4 2017-01-20 14:37:32

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin


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#5 2017-01-20 14:40:45

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

Hmmm... Too bad.. I love Claws-Mail... :-|


Someone wrote:
"I understand that if you play a Windows CD backwards you hear strange Satanic messages"
To which someone replied:
"It's even worse than that; play it forwards and it installs Windows"

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#6 2017-01-20 15:00:14

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

There always is the "Render HTML messages as text" option. It works very well for me (but then I always thought that HTML e-mails are a bad idea for the only thing they seem to do is distract you with moving gifs and comic sans..)

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#7 2017-01-20 15:57:54

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

Yes, but that does not really help in showing the email as intended.. I never use html emails myself but I often get one that I need to look at properly...


Someone wrote:
"I understand that if you play a Windows CD backwards you hear strange Satanic messages"
To which someone replied:
"It's even worse than that; play it forwards and it installs Windows"

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#8 2017-01-20 21:40:03

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

I've moved to geary. Lacking just about every feature but it works at least.

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#9 2017-01-21 20:23:32

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

bjorntj wrote:

Hmmm... Too bad.. I love Claws-Mail... :-|

Yeah, I started with Sylpheed, then went to Sylpheed-claws (it bleeds) and stayed with Claws Mail when they split.

I'm not a fan of GTK3 because it screws up a lot of stuff, but it's an inevitable move. Now and then someone sends an HTML email that you need to look at. Fancy never did a real good job with them.

Seeing that geary was a GNOME app was a little scary, as I'm an XFCE guy. However it didn't seem to pull in a lot of crap.

1519 pts/3 ~
root@dawg # pacman -S geary
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Packages (4) gmime-2.6.22-1  libgee-0.18.1-1  webkitgtk-2.4.11-4  geary-0.11.3-1

Total Download Size:   11.51 MiB
Total Installed Size:  54.38 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]

Maybe I'll give it a try.

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#10 2017-01-22 12:06:43

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

Huh? What's the point in switching to another email client that also depends on webkitgtk if webkitgtk is about to be dropped?

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#11 2017-01-22 12:27:41

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

I'm still missing the fuss.  Most comments here are referring to that "now and then" or "rare" html email that you need to see in it's intended layout.  Just open the html attachment in any webbrowser.  No need to replace the mail client.


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#12 2017-01-22 15:56:03

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

Yep, I looked around a bit and found no better options. Geary is bare bones and IMAP only while I still have one POP3 email account. Balsa is ancient and Sylpheed is a less-well executed Claws. I'll click the link if I have to.

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#13 2017-01-30 17:55:49

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

seriously no way to get html mail anymore? can someone hack something together? *going crazy*

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#14 2017-01-30 18:05:40

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

Of course you can still get html mail.  What does the inability of one mail client to render that html have to do with that?


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#15 2017-02-03 19:46:40

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

Geez, Trilby, you're not really helping here. The question is - can HTML emails be rendered in claws-mail? Yes, you can get HTML emails. Yes, they can sort of be rendered as text, but often that doesn't work. I don't like HTML emails any more than the rest of us, but sometimes they come in and it would be nice to be able to view them like we used to.

But that just doesn't seem possible now. Looks like we have 3 choices:

* Click the button to view it as text

* Right click the button and select Send To, and send it to your web browser.

* Switch to different email client (which, given my nearly 1000 filters, isn't likely for me!)

I can only hope getting an embedded HTML viewer is coming down the line at some point.

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#16 2017-02-03 21:26:34

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

As a side note: Upstream brought back the dillo plugin. And you can still use the fancy plugin, just compile claws-mail yourself with the INSECURE fancy plugin enabled.
The original question was what alternatives are there for viewing html mail and I would say it was answered extensively.

Last edited by FlowIt (2017-02-03 21:27:00)

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#17 2017-02-07 00:15:23

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

Installing dillo and enabling the dillo plugin means that HTML messages can be viewed embedded again.

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#18 2017-02-28 10:38:07

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

I tried dillo, but it does not work. Nothing is displayed at all for the html part. But i can use dillo by its own without any problem. Any ideas?


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#19 2017-02-28 15:39:43

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

Silly question but did you enable the Dillo plugin and then set up dillo plugin in the Preferences section of Claws Mail

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#20 2017-02-28 15:52:03

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

Yes smile
If i disable the dillo plugin, the html contet is displayed as plaintext (stripped of html tags), but when its enable nothing is showed. Or rather, something failing is showed: when i resize the window, someartifacts will remain in the area where the html should be displayed.

As a sidenote: i compiled the claws plugins and copied fancy.so. That one works. Although it is kinda scary big_smile

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#21 2017-02-28 17:11:00

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

In Preferences -> Message View is Render HTML-only messages with plugin if possible selected? I had an issue on one computer and it was just a case of trying different HTML options until it worked but cannot remember which one I needed.

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#22 2017-03-01 10:16:50

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

Oh, that was it. Thank you smile

Its working well, but is there a simple way to open links in an external browser? I could copypaste, but thats a bit of a hassle.


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#23 2017-03-01 10:35:22

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

mutt

or you can write a simple script that will open links in clipboard with your preferred browser, and use it with a hotkey. e.g.,

 chromium $( xclip -o ) 

. So it will be matter of copy url and press the hotkey.


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#24 2017-03-01 10:37:40

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

mutt

or you can write a simple script that will open links in clipboard with your preferred browser, and use it with a hotkey. e.g.,

 chromium $( xclip -o ) 

. So it will be matter of copy url and press the hotkey.
EDIT: sorry for duplicate post. somehow w3m hanged and on refresh it created this duplicate post.

Last edited by Docbroke (2017-03-01 10:39:59)


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#25 2017-03-17 13:24:21

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Re: [Solved]claws-mail: what alternatives for fancy html plugin

When you open a mail with claws mail, in a new window,

There are 2 small icons on the right side of the window. If not click the little >. One for mail with the headers on, and the bottom one for just the message. Right click on that one and choose open with then choose dillo '%s', viola, html message in dillo.

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