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nbd

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Registered: 2014-08-04

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[SOLVED] Is NetworkManager installed with Gnome?

Hi,

after having been using XFCE4 for years, I at last tried to install Gnome. And cannot find out how to start the network. When I click "Settings/Network", I see an empty dialog box with a message that "NetworkManager needs to be running".

In the NetworkManager wiki it's written that NM is a native part of Gnome project and is installed automatically as a dependency to the tracker package in the gnome group. I have installed gnome and gnome-extra groups, but I don't see that NetworkManager is installed.

systemctl enable NetworkManager

Returns "no such file or directory". And

'pacman -Qs networkmanager'

finds 'libnm' and 'libnm-lib' packages, but no 'networkmanager'.

Is it normal that NetworkManager is not installed with Gnome and do I need to install 'networkmanager' package additionally?

Last edited by nbd (2017-03-28 23:50:02)

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Slithery

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Re: [SOLVED] Is NetworkManager installed with Gnome?

Is it normal that NetworkManager is not installed with Gnome and do I need to install 'networkmanager' package additionally?

Yes.

Where in the wiki does it say it's installed with Gnome? I don't see that anywhere.

Last edited by Slithery (2017-03-28 23:37:53)

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nbd

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Registered: 2014-08-04

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Re: [SOLVED] Is NetworkManager installed with Gnome?

Thanks!

EDIT:

NetworkManager is the native tool of the GNOME project to control network settings from the shell. It is installed by default as a dependency for tracker package, which is a part of gnome group, and just needs to be enabled.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME

That coupled with statement about NM front-end:

GNOME

GNOME has a built-in tool, accessible from the Network settings.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ne … orkManager

make a new Gnome user wonder when s/he discovers NetworkManager not installed.

Last edited by nbd (2017-03-28 23:59:55)

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rdeckard

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Registered: 2015-01-28

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Re: [SOLVED] Is NetworkManager installed with Gnome?

No, you shouldn't have to install networkmanager separately. When I run "pacman -S gnome" on a machine without networkmanager, it pulls it in as a dependency.

Edit: It looks like after upgrading, that's no longer the case. Perhaps some dependencies have changed recently and the wiki hasn't been updated sense?

Edit2: https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/pack … 735fd9aee0

networkmanager was dropped as a dependency of tracker. I'll update the wiki.

Last edited by rdeckard (2017-03-29 00:51:16)

nbd

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Registered: 2014-08-04

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Re: [SOLVED] Is NetworkManager installed with Gnome?

@rdeckard:

thanks for clarification! If that's removal was not by mistake, then apparently there were reasons for it.

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