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Mr Green · 2006-06-22 19:59:32

I am readin' up on op ... wondered if anyone had tried it .....?

http://freshmeat.net/projects/op/

Is a more friendly (config wise!) version of sudo .....

ScriptDevil · 2006-06-23 08:23:38

sudo is user firendly enough for me. But thanks for bringing op to my notice

Gullible Jones · 2006-06-23 13:56:46

Sudo's friendly enough for me too... It's not exactly designed to make things difficult after all.

(BTW, isn't it generally a bad sign when a project's homepage is 404? :shock: )

Mr Green · 2006-06-23 17:10:44

:oops:

http://swapoff.org/op

Gullible Jones · 2006-06-23 20:38:41

Well, it looks nice, I suppose... Not sure I like the mnemonics though, that just seems to me to smack of trying to fix something that ain't broken.

(I do have to ask though, does an arbitrary command executed with op have full root privileges, as with sudo? Forgive my ignorance..)

Mr Green · 2006-06-24 18:04:36

just read an article about op ... states mostly that configs are more flexible ..

thats all ...

I like using sudo .... safer sometimes than running root all the time

will read up more ;-)

Dusty · 2006-06-24 19:39:38

I hate the sudoers configuration syntax. its so ugly. So ugly.

Mr Green · 2006-06-24 19:46:20

then take a look at ops .... then tell me what you think ...

/me waits for Dusty to release some code ;-)

FUBAR · 2006-06-24 20:05:19

Find back post.

petebull · 2006-06-24 20:23:57

Dusty wrote:

I hate the sudoers configuration syntax. its so ugly. So ugly.

I looked at the linked op-site. It's configuration language looks at least equally ugly.

What I really like about sudo is the wrapper for editing the config "visudo" which prevents getting locked out because of syntax errors.

I never tried to implement a fine granulated sudoers.

Mr Green · 2006-06-24 20:28:55

Errr an example

command_shortcut command; options

very much like alias ...

halt /sbin/halt; users=mrgreen

now this means that mrgreen now has permission to shutdown system thus

op halt

but I hear you cry ... I have not entered a password, fear not ... simply add

halt /sbin/halt; users=mrgreen password

this is just the tip of the iceberg ... I may give op a go in the near future

MrG

petebull · 2006-06-28 23:21:30

What do you like? That you can assign a shortcut?

Look up "EXAMPLES" in "man sudoers" and tell me what is harder to understand in regard to the "op" syntax

mrgreen ALL=/sbin/halt

elasticdog · 2006-06-29 01:13:00

I agree...I've never thought the sudoers syntax was at all complex (especially in comparison to some configs... like sendmail )

Mr Green · 2006-06-29 06:02:21

Ok ..

I just read a article about op thats all I not trying to convert anyone to it ...

just thought I would try it out myself

I used the above as an example

there are other things you can do with op

If you are happy using sudo then fine

/me has sudo set up .....

Bison · 2006-06-29 20:58:21

Dusty wrote:

I hate the sudoers configuration syntax. its so ugly. So ugly.

Its not so bad...Its pretty simple...

You can just edit it once and forget about it.

Mr Green · 2006-06-30 07:24:41

I am thinking now that on a system with more than one user op might handy ....

for most of us we run just as user & root so sudo does the job

user having control over installing, removing & editing root files to me is a little unsafe...

Of course you can change all this in suders file

Will be running op for a little while see how it goes ...

deficite · 2006-07-01 16:38:24

I think I'll stick to sudo for the moment. With sudo you really don't have to do anything special to get it to work, you just type sudo and then the command, or sudo -s to bring you into a sudo shell. While I'm not saying op requires a whole lot of effort, the script looks simple as cake, I don't want to have to manage it. I just want to type the command like it is and how it is.

Mr Green · 2006-07-01 16:51:39

thats cool .....

Just thinking that opening up user to do everything with the same rights as root ...is to me :shock:

But I would rather allow only certain commands to run as user ie halt mount...

pacman maybe not

it can do other things as well ..... like start & stop apache but you can do that anyway

So ... np

I'll use it for the moment till I get bored ;-)

test1000 · 2006-07-02 00:23:57

hmm. op looked to have much more intuitive syntax than sudo.

Mr Green · 2006-07-02 06:05:29

I added ....

dvd       /bin/mount /dev/hdc /mnt/dvd                                         
eject     /usr/bin/eject                                                       
halt      /sbin/halt                                                           
messages  /bin/cat /var/log/messages                                           
upgrade   /usr/bin/pacman -Syu

* note upgrade still requires a user password

Again they are examples

Mr Green · 2006-07-02 06:06:03

I added ....

[ ~ ] > op -l
dvd       /bin/mount /dev/hdc /mnt/dvd                                         
eject     /usr/bin/eject                                                       
halt      /sbin/halt                                                           
messages  /bin/cat /var/log/messages                                           
upgrade   /usr/bin/pacman -Syu                                                 
[ ~ ] >

* note upgrade still requires a user password

Again they are examples

Arch Linux

#1 2006-06-22 19:59:32

op

#2 2006-06-23 08:23:38

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#12 2006-06-28 23:21:30

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#13 2006-06-29 01:13:00

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#14 2006-06-29 06:02:21

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#15 2006-06-29 20:58:21

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#16 2006-06-30 07:24:41

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#17 2006-07-01 16:38:24

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#18 2006-07-01 16:51:39

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#19 2006-07-02 00:23:57

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