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#1 2006-06-24 00:50:19

Koven
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Problem with udev [SOLVED]

Hi there

i upgraded udev with pacman -S -y  and then sound doesn't work anymore and I don't know why it may be happening. It was working till then.

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#2 2006-06-24 00:58:44

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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

More information would help, How did you configured sound? From which version to whcih version of udev you went? Does it give some error message?


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#3 2006-06-24 01:17:11

Koven
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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

I think this is the problem

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* Known Problems MOD_AUTOLOAD="yes":
====================================

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* Sound is not working or modules (eg. parport) are not loaded automatically:
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Solution:
- Do you have a clean /etc/modprobe.conf?
  - A clean /etc/modprobe.conf is empty.  The stock modprobe.conf file
    contains nothing
- alsaconf can write output to modprobe.conf. Please keep that in mind.

This may be found in /etc/udev/readme-udev-arch.txt file but I really don't know what may be happening, Ther is no much info about this .

So i stop alsa service then I ran alsaconf and restarted alsa service and sound worked again but I really don't know what may be happening beacuse udev doesn't load modules.

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#4 2006-06-24 03:05:00

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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

My suggestion, clean /etc/modprobe.conf and let alsaconf write in it again, then use alsamier to set sound volume and alsactl store to store those values.


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#5 2006-06-24 07:02:18

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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

my advice is never! use alsaconf if you don't need to, udev loads all stuff
alsaconf is only needed for non pci cards normally

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#6 2006-06-24 13:02:04

Koven
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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

Now it doesn't work anymore.

I reboot pc and now I can't hear anything, if I try to configure sound in gnome it tells me there is not gstreamer control devices. Now I really don't know what to do if tpowa tells me that is not good run alsaconf, so what can i do now with this rare trouble?

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#7 2006-06-24 13:16:23

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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

tpowa wrote:

my advice is never! use alsaconf if you don't need to, udev loads all stuff
alsaconf is only needed for non pci cards normally

(i edited the quote to bold some parts)

Koven, can you give us details about your hardware ?

What soundcard and Motherboard you are using will probably help to determine whether you should use alsaconf or not.


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#8 2006-06-24 13:29:05

Koven
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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

I think it wil not be necessary, I got a kernel panic and i really don't know where it came from because I didn't upgrade kernel or anything like that.

I just did that about running alsaconf. My sound card is integrated into motherboard, this is the driver "snd-via82xx".

When i saw the kernel panic I got into panic beacuse I really didn't anything for alterate the kernel configuration.

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PE. I Installed some fonts but i really don't hink it has any relation with my kernel panic problem Im writing from Mandriva distro in other partition. I hadn't another kernel in arch.

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#9 2006-06-24 13:49:55

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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

Maybe the problem is in broken udev.rules? Try to replace /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules with original file from package (current version is udev-094-2).


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#10 2006-06-24 15:50:21

Koven
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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

I've udev.rules, but I don't know how can i get another udev.rules. Remember I'm in a kernel panic situation...

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#11 2006-06-24 15:52:16

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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

where does it panic?
could you post the message somewhere?

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#12 2006-06-24 16:02:19

Koven
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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

I've reboot four times and now I'm into arch again, but I've sound problem again, it tells me error in spanish so I don't know how may I translate it but I'll give a try...

Not volume control devices found of Gstreamer

This appears when I click on volume control on gnome desktop. What can i do? This obviously is a udev problem but everything was ok before upgrading udev.

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#13 2006-06-24 16:06:35

Koven
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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

When udev is starting at boot it is the longest service in beginning, I really don't know why everything was like that after upgrading.

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#14 2006-06-24 16:16:47

tpowa
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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

clean your modprobe.conf, it's has most likely wrong values inside,
especially remove alsa entries and OSS entries.

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#15 2006-06-24 16:19:42

Koven
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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

I have this in modprobe.conf

[root@koven koven]# cat /etc/modprobe.conf
#
# /etc/modprobe.conf (for v2.6 kernels)
#

# OSS Compatibility
install snd-pcm modprobe -i snd-pcm ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; true
install snd-seq modprobe -i snd-seq ; modprobe snd-seq-oss ; true

# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF version 1.0.11 ---
alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---

Cleaning you mean, remove everything with

echo " " > /etc modprobe.conf

Is it?

I read your readme-udev-arch.txt file and i suppose there are a lot of tips there in. Thanks for info

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#16 2006-06-24 16:30:16

tpowa
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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

remove this stuff and all will work

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#17 2006-06-24 16:39:55

Koven
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Re: Problem with udev [SOLVED]

Thanx tpowa, now I understand why this is not a kernel for newbies hehehe, really great distro.

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