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#1 2017-05-09 17:55:23

polybutylene
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jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

Hello,

I've been trying out the Budgie desktop and running into problems. 

I'm finding that my mouse movement is not very smooth.  Appearance is of a slow update rate.  When moving windows, about 20% of the time there is a half a second pause before the action is registered.  The screen also seems to flicker (at least to me).  Hardware wise, I'm using a NVIDIA-1060 with NVIDIA drivers, screen is a 2K monitor.  All my installed packages are up to date.

When I use the GNOME-3 desktop, I get expected smooth performance.

Any ideas how to improve performance in Budgie?  I really like the overall concept of Budgie, but the frequent pauses are ruining the experience.

Oh.. and hello!  New Arch user.  I've been using Linux since about 1998 and I decided to give Arch a try.  Loving everything so far (and the Wiki is awesome!).

Thank you!

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#2 2017-05-09 19:48:40

seth
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Re: jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

I've been using Linux since about 1998

Then you certainly already did throw top & iotop against the issue and are just raising suspense by holding that data back...?
In case there's nothing peaking up, check whether you're on xorg on the one and wayland on the other desktop.

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#3 2017-05-09 20:10:22

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Re: jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

...ok, I know this is a stupid question, but I'm only asking because it bit me in the butt two weeks ago, but...

Are you accidentally plugging your USB mouse into a USB 3 port?

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#4 2017-05-09 21:10:40

polybutylene
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Re: jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

seth wrote:

I've been using Linux since about 1998

Then you certainly already did throw top & iotop against the issue and are just raising suspense by holding that data back...?
In case there's nothing peaking up, check whether you're on xorg on the one and wayland on the other desktop.

Yes, I had a look with top.
budgie-wm uses 30-100% of a CPU.  That is certainly high.  I'm using xorg. 

Nothing stands out from iotop.

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#5 2017-05-09 21:14:46

polybutylene
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Re: jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

drcouzelis wrote:

...ok, I know this is a stupid question, but I'm only asking because it bit me in the butt two weeks ago, but...

Are you accidentally plugging your USB mouse into a USB 3 port?


The mouse was in a USB-3 port.  I tried USB-2 and the PS/2 port and make no difference.

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#6 2017-05-09 21:24:52

seth
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Re: jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bu … _Budgie_WM
Replace it (eg. with mutter? openbox?) and see whether that makes a difference.

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#7 2017-05-09 21:30:36

polybutylene
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Re: jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

seth wrote:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bu … _Budgie_WM
Replace it (eg. with mutter? openbox?) and see whether that makes a difference.

I tried mutter.  Still poor performance.  Screen still looks like it is flickering.    I'll try out openbox see if that works.

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#8 2017-05-10 14:59:05

polybutylene
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Re: jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

Looks like the performance issue is related to mutter.

refs:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=225610
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/53757

Thanks for all the help so far!

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#9 2017-05-10 18:36:12

seth
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Re: jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

Likely, but the weird part is that mutter is gnome's window manager... (actually I wasn't aware the budgie had it's own and then believed it's merely a wrapper around mutter)

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#10 2017-05-10 23:43:41

polybutylene
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Re: jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

Using the reverted mutter patch sees the budgie-wm cpu usage drop to 1-2% with no screen activity, however now xorg is showing high cpu usage.  Mouse is still choppy and screen still flickering.   I also tried different mice with different polling rates with no difference.

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#11 2017-05-11 06:18:56

seth
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Re: jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

How's the behavior with openbox then?

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#12 2017-05-12 02:22:41

polybutylene
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Re: jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

sigh.. gtk3 broke budgie taskbar, raven, etc., when I upgraded.

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#13 2017-05-12 21:30:15

polybutylene
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Re: jerky mouse, pause and hicops with Budgie desktop.

I switched to budgie-desktop-git and budgie-wm is no longer continually taking 20-80% of the cpu, but it's still really laggy. There is a very noticeable delay in window updates.  Even typing in a window sees a half second delay for text to show up.

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