How make that be russian laters, but not '?????', of files?

alikas · 2006-07-02 13:37:49

Then create new folder or file and write with russian latters it name, then its look something that: '??????' on file manager (Konqueror).

tomfitzyuk · 2006-07-02 14:29:37

kde-i18n-ru is in the repo's, this may solve your problem.

PS. This may sound offence though I don't intend on it: You should work on your English a little before posting an English forum. It took a while for me to understand what you was asking.

alikas · 2006-07-02 16:45:17

I have installed KDE russian internalizatio, but it not help.
Then I have Kubuntu, then possible be see and russian and lithuanian file names.
I think need some fonts.

damjan · 2006-07-03 09:38:23

alikas wrote:

Then create new folder or file and write with russian latters it name, then its look something that: '??????' on file manager (Konqueror).

You need to set your locale.

I'd suggest ru_RU.UTF-8.

First uncomment ru_RU.UTF-8 in /etc/locale.gen, then run locale-gen and last edit /etc/rc.conf and setup LOCALE="ru_RU.UTF-8"

alikas · 2006-07-03 11:17:29

Damjan,
Nano automaticlly create new /etc/locale.gen file, in it nothing to uncomment, I write in it 'ru_RU.UTF-8'.
'[root@myhost ~]# locale-gen
bash: locale-gen: command not found'
'[root@myhost ~]# locale
LANG=en_US
LC_CTYPE="en_US"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
LC_TIME="en_US"
LC_COLLATE=C
LC_MONETARY="en_US"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
LC_PAPER="en_US"
LC_NAME="en_US"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
LC_ALL=
[root@myhost ~]# '
Make that, yuo say, but still inproperlly show russian file names.
If run XFCE4 file manager and try create new file with russian name:

[root@myhost ~]# xffm

** (xffm:2313): WARNING **: Invalid byte sequence in conversion input. Codeset for system is: ISO-8859-1
Unable to convert from utf-8

Or if try rename write somethin that:

(xffm:2313): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

(xffm:2313): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

(xffm:2313): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

(xffm:2313): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

(xffm:2313): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

(xffm:2313): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

magnum_opus · 2006-07-03 13:20:16

alikas wrote:

Damjan,
Nano automaticlly create new /etc/locale.gen file, in it nothing to uncomment, I write in it 'ru_RU.UTF-8'.

looking through my locale.gen the line appears to be ru_RU.UTF-8 UTF-8

also make sure you were looking in /etc/locale.gen, you really should have that file

'[root@myhost ~]# locale-gen
bash: locale-gen: command not found'

hmm. locale-gen should be located in /usr/sbin/
also it should be a part of the glibc package which is part of the base config

bogomipz · 2006-07-03 14:16:27

sounds like alikas wants to do a pacman -Syu

then edit /etc/locale.gen, run locale-gen, edit /etc/rc.conf, and reboot

alikas · 2006-07-03 14:27:49

Thanks!
I install:

[root@myhost ~]# pacman -S glibc

Targets: kernel-headers-2.6.12.0-1 glibc-2.4-2

Total Package Size:   10.9 MB

Proceed with upgrade? [Y/n] y

checking package integrity... done.
loading package data... done.
checking for file conflicts... done.
installing kernel-headers... done.
upgrading glibc... done.
  ==> ATTENTION INTERNATIONAL USERS:
  ==>
  ==> Locales are no longer included in the glibc package.
  ==> They are generated by /usr/sbin/locale-gen depending on the contents
  ==> of /etc/locale.gen.
  ==> glibc will try to autodetect the required locales now, if you need
  ==> additional locales, please enable them in /etc/locale.gen and run
  ==> /usr/sbin/locale-gen
  ==>
Generating locales...
  ru_RU.ISO-8859-5... done
Generation complete.
[root@myhost ~]#

In locale.gen after I install glibc be uncommented this text: "ru_RU ISO-8859-5",
But I uncomment 'ru_UA.UTF-8 UTF-8'.
Then run locale-gen.
Then in rc.conf is that text:

LOCALE="ru_RU"
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"
TIMEZONE=Canada/Pacific
KEYMAP=us
CONSOLEFONT=
CONSOLEMAP=
USECOLOR="yes"

I restart KDE, but show inpropperly russian file names. Maybe need reboot computer?
"[root@myhost ~]# pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
:: current is up to date
error: anonymous login failed
extra [##############################################################################] 100% 253K 1.9K/s 00:02:15
:: Replace mawk with gawk from "current"? [Y/n] n
:: Replace alsa-driver with kernel26 from "current"? [Y/n] n
:: Replace devfsd with udev from "current"? [Y/n] n
:: ttf-bitstream-vera conflicts with xorg. Remove xorg? [Y/n] n

error: package conflicts detected

[root@myhost ~]#"

magnum_opus · 2006-07-03 15:55:18

yes, the changes in rc.conf only take effect during reboot (i think)

after reboot if things still don't work go to the control center in kde and check under 'regional & accessability' and 'country/region & language'

also once you get this sorted out you should probably pacman -Syu again and update to udev and kernel26 (read the wiki on udev before doing it http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DevFS_to_Udev)

alikas · 2006-07-03 16:47:59

Thanks!
I have installed all, that ask, then write 'pacman -Syu'.
Now I uncoment lithuanian locale and write in rc.conf lithuanian locale.
Then possible write text russian and lithuanian in file names on file manager.
But this text, inpropperly show Windows operation system, and linux not show lithuanian files, and rusian files, that corectly show Windows.

Romashka · 2006-07-05 14:31:42

If you want to see cyrillic chars in filenames on FAT filesystems you should mount them with -o codepage=866

alikas · 2006-07-09 09:37:25

I write 'mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/a -o codepage=866' but still '??' of russian leters.

Romashka · 2006-07-11 13:33:57

I'm from Ukraine so I use Cyryllic chars.

I use the following rc.conf:

LOCALE="uk_UA.KOI8-U" 
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime" 
TIMEZONE=Europe/Kiev
KEYMAP=ua
CONSOLEFONT=koi8u_8x16
CONSOLEMAP=
USECOLOR="yes"

Note that you cannot simply change koi8-u to koi8-r.
There are some problems with KOI8-R:
console fonts for KOI8-R does not have Unicode map (there are koi8r*.psf.gz, but no koi8r*.psfu.gz) and to use KOI8-R you must use Cyr_a8x16 font with koi2alt consolemap (IIRC).

Try this:

/etc/rc.conf:

LOCALE="ru_RU.KOI8-R" 
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime" 
TIMEZONE=Canada/Pacific # why Canada/Pacific???
KEYMAP=ru
CONSOLEFONT=Cyr_a8x16
CONSOLEMAP=koi2alt
USECOLOR="yes"

mount FAT partitions with -o codepage=866,iocharset=koi8-r

and create /etc/profile.d/gtk+.sh:

GDK_USE_XFT=1
export GDK_USE_XFT

G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1
export G_BROKEN_FILENAMES

G_FILENAME_ENCODING=KOI8-R #@local

then chmod +x /etc/profile.d/gtk+.sh

the gtk+.sh fixes the problem when saving filenames with cyrillic letters in name from Firefox and other GTK apps.

EDIT: Note also that there are few ru keymaps (for example ru4 keymap is popular). You should try others and choose one that you like the most.
Oh, and don't forget to set full 8-bit output in Minight Commander.

alikas · 2006-07-11 17:43:05

How set full 8-bit output in Minight Commander?

Romashka · 2006-07-11 21:10:47

It is in one of submenus of Options menu, I don't remember exact location, and I'm writing from windoze now. It will open dialog with 3 choices, one of them is 8-bit output.

alikas · 2006-07-12 08:37:44

Make that yuo say:

#/etc/rc.conf
LOCALE="ru_RU.KOI8-R"
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"
TIMEZONE=Europe/Vilnius
KEYMAP=ru-cp1251
CONSOLEFONT=Cyr_a8x16
CONSOLEMAP=koi2alt
USECOLOR="yes"

mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/a -o codepage=866,iocharset=koi8-r

Midnight Commander: Options -> Display bits... -> Full 8 bits output.
And show, still, '?' of each russian letter of file.

Romashka · 2006-07-12 10:48:51

alikas wrote:

Midnight Commander: Options -> Display bits... -> Full 8 bits output.

It is something wrong wirh your locale files if MC has English menu.
Have you added/uncommented ru_RU.KOI8-R to your /etc/locale.gen and run locale-gen?

Romashka · 2006-07-12 11:09:13

Sorry if my question looks stupid, but... did you reboot your machine after changing rc.conf?

alikas · 2006-07-18 13:58:47

Midnight Commander not instaled.
I run it from source directory: '/a/mc-4.6.1/src', maybe it show english letters, because not properly installed?

In file /etc/locale.gen I uncomment this line:
ru_RU.KOI8-R KOI8-R
And run locale-gen, restart computer, but still KDE Konqueror and Midnight Commander do not show russian leters on fat32 file system.

Romashka · 2006-07-18 18:17:09

alikas wrote:

Midnight Commander not instaled.
I run it from source directory: '/a/mc-4.6.1/src', maybe it show english letters, because not properly installed?

Why do you do so? You have mc in Current and mc-utf8 in Unsupported.

alikas wrote:

In file /etc/locale.gen I uncomment this line:
ru_RU.KOI8-R KOI8-R
And run locale-gen, restart computer, but still KDE Konqueror and Midnight Commander do not show russian leters on fat32 file system.

mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/a -o codepage=866,iocharset=koi8-r works 100%!

Does your console display cyrillic letters correctly?
Have you installed ttf-ms-fonts, ttf-dejavu and ttf-mph-2b-damase, ttf-freefont and/or other TTF/Type1 fonts that have cyrillic letters?
And what is your locale output now?

alikas · 2006-07-19 10:03:34

First I do not have Midnight Commander.

[root@myhost ~]# mc
bash: mc: command not found

Mount folowing, but not work:

mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/a -o codepage=866,iocharset=koi8-r

Terminal-console, then type 'nano' display russian letters correctly.
ttf-ms-fonts, ttf-mph-2b-damase fonts installed.
ttf-ms-fonts, ttf-dejavu, ttf-freefont can not find in packman database.
What is other TTF/Type1 fonts that have cyrillic letters?
rc.conf:

LOCALE="ru_RU.KOI8-R"
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"
TIMEZONE=Europe/Vilnius
KEYMAP=ru
CONSOLEFONT=Cyr_a8x16
CONSOLEMAP=koi2alt
USECOLOR="yes"

[root@myhost ~]# locale-gen
Generating locales...
  ru_RU.KOI8-R... done
Generation complete.

Romashka · 2006-07-19 11:37:02

alikas wrote:

Midnight Commander not instaled.
I run it from source directory: '/a/mc-4.6.1/src', maybe it show english letters, because not properly installed?

Why do you do this? Have you tried to install mc?

Romashka · 2006-07-19 11:46:48

alikas wrote:

Mount folowing, but not work:
mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/a -o codepage=866,iocharset=koi8-r 

Strange...
ls /mnt/a outputs ?? instead of cyrillic chars too?

alikas wrote:

Terminal-console, then type 'nano' display russian letters correctly.

That means that console fonts and maps are OK.

alikas wrote:

ttf-dejavu, ttf-freefont can not find in packman database.
What is other TTF/Type1 fonts that have cyrillic letters?

ttf-dejavu is in Community, ttf-freefont - in Unsupported.

alikas · 2006-07-19 13:09:51

ls /mnt/a outputs ?? instead of cyrillic chars too.

alikas · 2006-07-19 13:12:35

I try install Midnight Commander. But do not install, how yuo see. In terminal 'mc' not work.

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