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#1 2006-07-05 18:51:18

twiistedkaos
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Mp3 Player

I just baught a cheap mp3 player, 256mb, nothing crazy. But then again I don't need no damn ipod which stores 2,000+ songs. I only need a few tongue. My question is, it can read .mp3 or .wma. WMA files are smaller than mp3 correct? If so, what's a good program to convert mp3's to wmv's so I can sqeeze a few more songs on my mp3 player?

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#2 2006-07-05 18:59:13

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Re: Mp3 Player

i don't think there's a way to encode wma in linux. i was about to suggest trying mencoder, but it seems to only support mp3.

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#3 2006-07-05 19:01:15

twiistedkaos
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Re: Mp3 Player

Hmm, alright smile.

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#4 2006-07-05 19:02:57

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Re: Mp3 Player

anyway, to fit more songs, you can re-encode your songs to a lower bitrate mp3. wma is usually 64kbps ... you can get 64kbps mp3. wma supposedly sounds better at this size, however.

try this:

lame --preset cbr 64 original.mp3 smaller.mp3

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#5 2006-07-05 19:08:16

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Re: Mp3 Player

you can also use mp3togo

a nice python script that will shrink you music files by about half with little loss of quality due to higher compression

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#6 2006-07-05 19:31:11

Mr Green
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Re: Mp3 Player

audio-convert maybe


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#7 2006-07-05 19:56:24

twiistedkaos
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Re: Mp3 Player

mpie wrote:

you can also use mp3togo

a nice python script that will shrink you music files by about half with little loss of quality due to higher compression

Hmm where do you get mp3 to go?
Edit
Guess google does work!

Couldn't get mp3togo to work correctly, the lame way works. Is their a way to encode an entire directory with lame? it doesn't seem to accept wildcards.

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#8 2006-07-05 21:01:17

paranoos
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Re: Mp3 Player

to encode every file in a directory, try this:

for file in *.mp3; do
    lame --preset cbr 64 $file /mnt/mp3/$file
done

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#9 2006-07-05 21:09:24

rayjgu3
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Re: Mp3 Player

i like etree-script there is shn2make in the aur
but i havent been able to get it to work nor have i been able to write a successful PKGBUILD for etree-scripts (havent tried real hard either)
with this you want a ".txt" file in the directory with the files your gonna convert
example fof .txt file

Jerry Garcia Band
Keystone Palo Alto
Palo Alto, CA 
02/27/82

SBD>MC>DAT>CDR

Disc 1: Set 1:  
01. //The Way You Do The Things You Do 
02. I'll Take A Melody 
03. Simple Twist Of Fate 
04. Let It Rock > 
05. Deal//

06. The Harder They Come 
07. Mission In The Rain 
08. Valerie 
09. Dear Prudence > 
10. Tangled Up In Blue 
 
Comments: 
d1t01 - beginning cut; splice @~00:28 
d1t05 - end cut. 

d2t02 - very beginning slight cut
d2t05 - very beginning slight cut

Sweeeet!

Conversion Notes:
DAE (EAC: High, Secure, Offset Corrected) all track quality 100%
Show recut with CDWav.
All sector boundaries verified using SHNTOOL.
SHN(seekable) using mkwACT0.97 via eD - 11/05/02

Another installment of The Music Never Stopped Project!

Thanks to M.Perini for the seeds.

notice the few top lines these set artist ,album , date  , linage of recording
then the individual tracks you want the #'s preceding tracks so that the script picks up on it. if you would like this show or some other show of taper friendly bands checkout
http://etree.org/
http://bt.etree.org/index.php
heres another but you have to sign up
http://www.shnflac.net/torrents.php
happy jamming

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#10 2006-07-05 21:53:51

deficite
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Re: Mp3 Player

Be aware that every time you compress a file it gets worse and worse in quality. I've done tests on WMA and it's not as impressive as they'd let you believe. I encoded some CD's as MP3 and WMA to do comparisons and I usually saved like 2 or 3 MB with WMA. I'd just stick with MP3. I have a Creative Nomad Zen Xtra, and the music sounds great on it with MP3 and some of the stuff I have on there is as low as 92k. I listen to some online 64k MP3 streams on shoutcast and they sound decent. Also, if your MP3 player supports VBR I'd go with that.

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#11 2006-07-06 00:46:10

twiistedkaos
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Re: Mp3 Player

paranoos wrote:

to encode every file in a directory, try this:

for file in *.mp3; do
    lame --preset cbr 64 $file /mnt/mp3/$file
done

The problem is, lame doesn't like spaces and unfortunately most mp3's have spaces in their name so they required something like:

lame 'foo/foo' dir

I tried to edit your script to include "'" but that doesn't work for me:

for file in *.mp3; do
    lame --preset cbr 64 +"'"+$file+"'" /home/josh/Shared/new/$file
done

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#12 2006-07-06 01:21:55

rayjgu3
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Re: Mp3 Player

deficite wrote:

Be aware that every time you compress a file it gets worse and worse in quality. I've done tests on WMA and it's not as impressive as they'd let you believe. I encoded some CD's as MP3 and WMA to do comparisons and I usually saved like 2 or 3 MB with WMA. I'd just stick with MP3. I have a Creative Nomad Zen Xtra, and the music sounds great on it with MP3 and some of the stuff I have on there is as low as 92k. I listen to some online 64k MP3 streams on shoutcast and they sound decent. Also, if your MP3 player supports VBR I'd go with that.

yeah i feel the same way except ill go furthur i wouldnt even bother with mp3 till my wife got her zen xtra i liked it so much i got one.
yeah mp3's aint bad but i wouldnt use it as a form of saving my music i only put in mp3 for my player for archiving any music i use shn or flac . there are other forms of lossless compression but these are my preferences, (although i do back up my mp3's so i wont have to convert the same music back to mp3, it took me almost a year to fill my 40gb player & when it was full i burned all of it to dvd's now im starting over) 
also if you make a copy of a copy of a copy of cd's in .wav you do lose quality of your music. you pick up some digi noise or a pop, skips, what not.
so be good to your ears, take care of your music

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#13 2006-07-06 05:15:33

mpie
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Re: Mp3 Player

twiistedkaos wrote:
mpie wrote:

you can also use mp3togo

a nice python script that will shrink you music files by about half with little loss of quality due to higher compression

Hmm where do you get mp3 to go?
Edit
Guess google does work!

Couldn't get mp3togo to work correctly, the lame way works. Is their a way to encode an entire directory with lame? it doesn't seem to accept wildcards.

yeah works best on directories, mp3togo decodes mp3,ogg,flac to wav then recodes so there's not the extra loss. it can also upload files to your player and output ogg,mp3,or wav to create audio-cd's......

hmmm smell a pkgbuild coming on...

I had issues with the syntax at first, it works best if you use a playlist or import current tracks from xmms or amaorok

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