[Solved] [mutt] smtp over starttls but without sasl

FlowIt · 2017-09-16 15:40:33

I tried out neomutt and had problems sending mail. I found out that this was related to sasl, which was disabled in the config. Interestingly, receiving mail via imaps worked flawlessly, using a tls encrypted connection. Activating sasl fixed the sending issues, but I was wondering if it is possible to configure mutt in a way that uses smtp(s) via starttls but without using sasl.

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Trilby · 2017-09-16 21:48:01

Yes it is. Have you checked the man page?

EDIT: or even the wiki page for that matter?

It looks like a large portion of your threads continue to be solved by some other member suggesting you read the man page or check the wiki page for the tool you are asking about. You really need to do this *before* posting here. I know you've been told this before.

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FlowIt · 2017-09-17 08:30:31

Will do. Found the answer in the manpages, although I really needed to know that it was there, otherwise I wouldn't have found it.
The answer is: use

set smtp_authenticators="plain"
set ssl_starttls=true

Still, I'd like to mention that the wiki in this case was not of much help, because I understand

If you just need the authentication methods LOGIN and PLAIN, these are satisfied with the dependency libsasl

in a way that sasl is even needed for PLAIN authentication (which it isn't, PLAIN comes for free with mutt)

Trilby · 2017-09-17 11:54:59

FlowIt wrote:

Found the answer in the manpages, although I really needed to know that it was there, otherwise I wouldn't have found it.

No, you wouldn't have *looked*. Seriously, that's one of the dumbest things I've seen on these forums. From now on just assume the answer is in the man page and read the damn thing first.

And if you are saying you will persist in never bothering to read a man page before posting here, and you will wait for other users here to confirm that information *is* in the man page before you bother to look, note that you are violating our forum standards, abusing your would-be helpers, and just overall being a shitbag.

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seth · 2017-09-17 13:11:40

Trilby wrote:

shitbag

I assume you served in the army, but people might misread this (actually proper) "classification" as the wrong kind of insult.

@FlowIt, are you aware that you can search manpages like in less (or vim) by pressing "/" and then entering the search term?
As long as you pass a lowercase token the search is case insenstive (at least i think that's the default)

Also you can always:

man foo | grep bar

Trilby · 2017-09-17 13:27:07

Marines actually - and I never considered it changing the meaning of that term. But after a quick perusal of a few definition sources, it seems the US military use of the term and the general use of the term are not horribly different, just that the military use is more specific to the reason for the conclusion about the individual's (lack of) worth. The first duck-duck-go result defines it in the terms intended: "a) a very lazy person b) one who deceptively hides their lack of work or effort" though that fails to make explicit the generally implied "... to the detriment of those around you." So it has much in common with parasite and perhaps help vampire.

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[Solved] [mutt] smtp over starttls but without sasl

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