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#1 2017-09-24 07:16:22

Pumpino
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Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

I tend to run the latest kernel on my machines, even if they're still in staging or testing.

I've run kernels 4.13.1-4.13.3 on my laptop without any issues. However, on my desktop machine, every version of 4.13 hangs at boot.

After selecting Arch in grub, the screen displays a garbled green pattern and that's it. The only solution each time has been to restore a Clonezilla backup, since I'm unable to boot from the failsafe option in grub either.

The desktop machine is an Intel i5 with a Gigabyte GA-Z77x-UD3H (it's 6+ years old).

I figure kernel 4.13 will hit stable soon, so I'd better work out a solution. Any ideas?

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#2 2017-09-24 07:41:17

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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

What GPU? Also, can you SSH into the machine?


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#3 2017-09-24 07:50:03

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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

Just shared Intel graphics.

I haven't tried SSHing in. In order to test, I'll have to upgrade the kernel again and risk not being able to boot. wink

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#4 2017-09-24 07:51:26

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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

Install the lts kernel in addition?

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#5 2017-09-24 07:57:18

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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

So the LTS kernel won't replace the existing kernel like kernels from staging and testing do? I might do that if it'll add it to grub in addition to the existing kernel. It might be good insurance. wink

EDIT: I installed the LTS kernel, but there's no addition entries in grub. sad

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#6 2017-09-24 08:04:55

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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

you'll need to run

#grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

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#7 2017-09-24 08:50:32

Pumpino
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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

Thanks.

I can confirm that SSH connections fail, so it's not just a display issue. I frequently SSH in from my phone, so it's something that usually works.

Interestingly, kernel 4.13 boots fine in Fedora, so it's Arch specific.

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#8 2017-09-24 08:54:16

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#9 2017-09-24 09:04:16

loqs
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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

If the issue still occurs with nomodeset try intel_iommu=off
Edit
intel_iommu instead of intel_iommo

Last edited by loqs (2017-09-24 09:17:37)

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#10 2017-09-24 09:15:00

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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

I tried nomodeset, i915.modeset=0 and intel_iommo=off by hitting "e" to edit when the grub entry was displayed and then adding them one at a time at the end of the "rw quiet" line. Is that the correct way to do it? None of them worked.

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#11 2017-09-24 09:15:15

seth
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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

"intel_iommu"?
I btw. rather hoped for some useful debug output ;-)

edit: and certainly get rid of the "quiet" - also use the "debug" and other parameters on the formerly linked troubleshooting section.

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#12 2017-09-24 09:18:40

loqs
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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

@seth my mistake I requested intel_iommo=off instead of intel_iommu=off

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#13 2017-09-24 09:31:19

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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

yes, me and pumpipno simply crossposted. post #11 started as answer to you smile

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#14 2017-09-24 09:49:05

Pumpino
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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

Ahhh, so one of them had a typo. Indeed, we have lift-off with intel_iommu=off. Yay.

So, what exactly does that do and what's the best way to permanently solve the issue? Do I just manually add it to /boot/grub/grub.cfg and check each time there's a kernel update?

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#15 2017-09-24 10:08:32

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#16 2017-09-24 12:34:45

Pumpino
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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

Thanks. I guess I can add intel_iommu=off or intel_iommu=igfx_off to /etc/default/grub for a permanent fix.

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#17 2017-09-24 18:06:42

loqs
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Re: Computer hangs at boot with kernel 4.13.x

If intel_iommu=igfx_off cures the issue it is definitely the iGPU otherwise you would need to blacklist modules/module combinations to find out of it is attributable to a particular module.

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