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#1 2017-10-13 02:59:40

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Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

After a few hours of using my laptop, the xserver starts to freezes randomly. Sometimes the image locks up but I can still move the mouse, after that the whole system freezes and I have to do a hard reboot.
I got to the point that I downgraded X and even reinstalled my whole arch installation.
Logs doesn't seem to report anything tho...

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#2 2017-10-13 03:05:07

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

PhdTrollSlayer wrote:

Logs doesn't seem to report anything tho...


That is not an error message. Please read How To Ask Questions The Smart Way, and then include some relevant information; your card and driver, Xorg log, details of your setup and how you start X, etc...


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#3 2017-10-13 03:24:42

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

Xorg log
https://pastebin.com/zxcTvf3A

Video Card and Driver
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: Dell HD Graphics 5500
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 48
        Memory at f5000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        I/O ports at f000 [size=64]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: i915
        Kernel modules: i915

My laptop has an Nvidia 920m but no driver is installed, so it uses the above

Using LDM to start Kde Plasma 5.11.

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#4 2017-10-13 03:28:43

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus

And have you tried to run it with the vanilla or -lts kernel?


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#5 2017-10-13 03:34:16

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

See, my old Arch installation was running the vanilla kernel and bumblebee.
As far as I can remember, the issue started after an pacman -Syyu, but I cant remember when or what packages were upgraded.

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#6 2017-10-13 03:49:33

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

PhdTrollSlayer wrote:

As far as I can remember, the issue started after an pacman -Syyu, but I cant remember when or what packages were upgraded.

You don't have to remember, pacman logs everything.


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#7 2017-10-13 03:55:29

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

So long for the pacman logs lol. Drive's formated.
Somewere in the last month it was the update. Again if I can remember right, it was an xorg update

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#8 2017-10-13 04:06:32

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

This is really going nowhere. You don't have pacman's log. You haven't configured bumblebee/optimus on this machine, only your last one. You haven't tried booting another kernel...

What exactly do you expect from us?


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#9 2017-10-13 13:53:14

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

I dont think you understand. I'm using the same Dell Inspiron 5458 in both cases. The first one had the vanilla kernel and bumblebee and its where the problems started.So to try to pin point what is the problem I did a full reinstall of Arch. This time I installed Arch with an hardened, only intel video drivers and no nvidia or bumblebee.

I just want to see what package that is causing my problem is so I can rollback and not update it ever again.
I dont think its xorg itself, since i did an rollback already to the state of 1/1/2017 of only xorg.

I will try to install the nvidia driver and use it exclusively to see if the intel one is trash

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#10 2017-10-13 14:24:35

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

Not updating something is never a good idea, however you haven't provided us with anything remotely useful to help you.

Produce a freeze, switch to another tty (if you can) and post your Xorg log as well as a dmesg, in [ code ] tags

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#11 2017-10-18 17:45:22

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

Ok, turns out that the system freezes and crashes were kernel panics. Seeing that Linux 4.13 (Both vanilla and hardened) was the one causing the problems, I'm now using Linux LTS. Working fine so far. I will try to switch to vanilla again in a couple of weeks.

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#12 2017-10-18 18:50:29

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

Do you have a stack trace?

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#13 2017-10-19 06:50:11

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

seth wrote:

Do you have a stack trace?

Where can I find this?

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#14 2017-10-19 06:52:30

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

How do you come to the "kernel panic" conclusion?
Did you get a kernel message abuot the panic? In case: the stack trace is the weird numbers and function names below that message.
Might be archived in the former boot logs.

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#15 2017-10-19 07:41:24

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Re: Xorg keeps crashing/freezing no matter what

seth wrote:

How do you come to the "kernel panic" conclusion?

Black screen with a cursor and caps lock blinking after waking up from suspending.
Since the Xorg logs didn't show anything related to crashes or bugs I ended up find other things that could be the problem.
If it was Xorg after all, I would still be able to switch to another tty or kill X, but I couldn't...
Apparently its a known problem with Dell laptops (http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter … ?pi22229=4)

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