kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

funkyou · 2007-02-01 09:03:14

Master One wrote:

How strange, that you have an icon for Zeichenauswahl, but I haven't, and yes, I have kdemod-kdeartwork installed.

Yes, i have that icon so its really a little bit strange... What icon theme do you use? Hm, i think even this question is bogus, as KDE falls back to crystal when it does not find an icon in the theme... So i really dont know...

Master One wrote:

In this thread it is mentioned, that FAM is only needed if you want to monitor file-alteration on remote filesystems, so I inserted it again into my DAEMONS line, I guess there is no harm leaving it active. FAM relies on portmap, so if you don't use fam, why do you have have portmap in your DAEMONS?

Yes, starting portmap was just a left-over...
Well, FAM never did any directory monitoring for me and i always had/have to refresh manually in konqueror for example... This happened not only on Arch but also on Kubuntu. I am currenty checking how to enable directory monitoring in KDE and already found two ./configure options:

--enable-dnotify
--enable-inotify

These two are not activated by default, but maybe it has a reason... I also dont know if such a daemon like FAM is still needed, but i heard of gamin and that its a stable and better alternative to FAM ... Well i'll check that out, but if someone here knows a bit more than me, dont hesitate and share your knowledge

Here is what i have found about gamin so far (scroll to topic 5): http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20060 … letter.xml

Master One wrote:

Concerning the DAEMONS starting I just now stumbled over a very strange issue concering avahi-daemon & avahi-dnsconfd, please have a look at this thread, because I really would like to know, if it is working for you correctly, when starting both as seen in your DAEMONS line (and maybe you have an idea, what my problem could be about).

Try to start the daemon manually and see what it says, i mean starting the binary with the options stated in the initscript ... For me its working correctly, and it discovers the machines in my network correctly...

superstoned wrote:

let me add a problem, the new menu locks up the screen when used sometimes, not allowing for any mouseclicks anywhere. i have to go to a console, killall kicker and restart it.

Hm, didnt notice that here, and my machine runs nearly 24/7... But i had one bad kget crash, which freezed my complete ui... Hmmm...

pressh · 2007-02-01 10:19:01

funkyou wrote:

Well, FAM never did any directory monitoring for me and i always had/have to refresh manually in konqueror for example... This happened not only on Arch but also on Kubuntu. I am currenty checking how to enable directory monitoring in KDE and already found two ./configure options:
--enable-dnotify
--enable-inotify
These two are not activated by default, but maybe it has a reason... I also dont know if such a daemon like FAM is still needed, but i heard of gamin and that its a stable and better alternative to FAM ... Well i'll check that out, but if someone here knows a bit more than me, dont hesitate and share your knowledge

--enable-inotify uses the kernel to monitor the filesystem. I guess that is the preferred option, both for kde and gnome.
Gamin does basically the same as fam, last time I checked, but without the support for monitoring networked file systems.
AFAIK most distributions use the --enable-inotify switch, that way there is no need to have an extra daemon running (well, fam if you must monitor nfs for example).

[edit] great work btw you're doing with kdemod !

Last edited by pressh (2007-02-01 10:20:10)

Master One · 2007-02-01 13:08:35

funkyou wrote:

Master One wrote:
How strange, that you have an icon for Zeichenauswahl, but I haven't, and yes, I have kdemod-kdeartwork installed.
Yes, i have that icon so its really a little bit strange... What icon theme do you use? Hm, i think even this question is bogus, as KDE falls back to crystal when it does not find an icon in the theme... So i really dont know...

Even more weird, I just checked, "Zeichentabelle" doesn't even show up in my main menu at Applications -> Dienstprogramme, it is only present in the applet-menu, and there without its icon. The applet itself is present and can be added to the controlbar. Which package is the "Zeichenauswahl" app belonging to, and is there a difference between "Zeichenauswahl" from the Applications -> Dienstprogramme menu, and the "Tabelle zur Zeichenauswahl" applet?

funkyou wrote:

Master One wrote:
In this thread it is mentioned, that FAM is only needed if you want to monitor file-alteration on remote filesystems, so I inserted it again into my DAEMONS line, I guess there is no harm leaving it active. FAM relies on portmap, so if you don't use fam, why do you have have portmap in your DAEMONS?
Yes, starting portmap was just a left-over... Well, FAM never did any directory monitoring for me and i always had/have to refresh manually in konqueror for example... This happened not only on Arch but also on Kubuntu. I am currenty checking how to enable directory monitoring in KDE and already found two ./configure options: --enable-dnotify --enable-inotify These two are not activated by default, but maybe it has a reason... I also dont know if such a daemon like FAM is still needed, but i heard of gamin and that its a stable and better alternative to FAM ... Well i'll check that out, but if someone here knows a bit more than me, dont hesitate and share your knowledge

Well, I think I will try to do some tests, when I have time. As long as it's not sure, if FAM does any good, I'll just let it in my daemons array.

funkyou wrote:

Master One wrote:
Concerning the DAEMONS starting I just now stumbled over a very strange issue concering avahi-daemon & avahi-dnsconfd, please have a look at this thread, because I really would like to know, if it is working for you correctly, when starting both as seen in your DAEMONS line (and maybe you have an idea, what my problem could be about).
Try to start the daemon manually and see what it says, i mean starting the binary with the options stated in the initscript ... For me its working correctly, and it discovers the machines in my network correctly...

That's what I already tried, because when starting the avahi-dnsconfd daemon manually, it works. This is really very strange, I just rebooted again, and removed the "@" from the avahi-dnsconfd daemon, so that it reports back its status during boot, and both (so avahi-daemon & avahi-dnsconfd) report [DONE], but when having a look at the running processes, avahi-dnsconfd does not show up and is definitely not started:

$ ps fax | grep avahi
 3959 ?        Ss     0:00 avahi-daemon: running [masternotebo.local]
 3960 ?        Ss     0:00  \_ avahi-daemon: chroot helper
 4210 pts/1    S+     0:00  |       \_ grep avahi

Now when I restart avahi-dnsconfd manually right after boot and take a look at the running processed, this is what I get:

$ sudo /etc/rc.d/avahi-dnsconfd restart
:: Stopping Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD DNS Server Configuration Daemon            [FAIL]
:: Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD DNS Server Configuration Daemon            [DONE]
$ ps fax | grep avahi
 3959 ?        Ss     0:00 avahi-daemon: running [masternotebo.local]
 3960 ?        Ss     0:00  \_ avahi-daemon: chroot helper
 4535 pts/1    S+     0:00          \_ grep avahi
 4526 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/avahi-dnsconfd -D

Please have a look at your machine, because service discover maybe not an indicator if it's running (I honestly have no clue about the avahi workings, and I also don't know what the second daemon avahi-dnsconfd is for). Because I never got an error on boot, as long as the avahi-dnsconfd entry is after avahi-daemon in the daemons array, I also only found out about the problem, because avahi-dnsconfd failed on shutdown (what I barely do, because this notebook is only suspended most of the time). BTW If both daemons are running, and I suspend-to-ram and return, it is again the same situation as when booting, so avahi-daemon running, and avahi-dnsconfd not. There has to be a problem with avahi-daemon needing more time, before avahi-dnsconfd can connect to it, but that way this problem should be on your machine as well.

funkyou · 2007-02-01 14:09:42

Master One wrote:

Even more weird, I just checked, "Zeichentabelle" doesn't even show up in my main menu at Applications -> Dienstprogramme, it is only present in the applet-menu, and there without its icon. The applet itself is present and can be added to the controlbar. Which package is the "Zeichenauswahl" app belonging to, and is there a difference between "Zeichenauswahl" from the Applications -> Dienstprogramme menu, and the "Tabelle zur Zeichenauswahl" applet?

Ok, got it... The icon comes not with the applet (kdemod-kdeutils-charselectapplet) but with kcharselect (kdemod-kdeutils-kcharselect), so if you want to have the icons, just install kdemod-kdeutils-kcharselect ...

I know that the avahi-daemon needs some more time on startup, that why i have only the avahi-dnscond prefixed with an @, and not the avahi-daemon...

One question: Do you get your IP per DHCP? It could be that avahi needs a running network, and just starts too fast while the network is not fully up... I would suggest to set up a static network connection and start it via the network init script (and not the networkmanager) and see if that works...

pressh: Thanks, also for the info on fam, gamin, inotify

SchaduwBlink · 2007-02-01 14:42:00

funkyou, when I was working on pertty for Gentoo, I had to switch the ebuilds over to use inotify. The default Gentoo ones used dnotify for awhile, but inotify was the better one (unless I am swtiching these two, I know I had to change the ebuilds to use the other one ). I forgot all about that until I read the last few posts. So, it's safe to enable inotify. Though, the Gentoo ebuilds test the kernel config file to see if inotify is in the kernel before activating it. The kernels that come from Arch repositories have it activated so that should not be an issue unless someone recompiled a kernel without that support.

Cheers.

Master One · 2007-02-01 16:54:19

funkyou wrote:

Master One wrote:
Even more weird, I just checked, "Zeichentabelle" doesn't even show up in my main menu at Applications -> Dienstprogramme, it is only present in the applet-menu, and there without its icon. The applet itself is present and can be added to the controlbar. Which package is the "Zeichenauswahl" app belonging to, and is there a difference between "Zeichenauswahl" from the Applications -> Dienstprogramme menu, and the "Tabelle zur Zeichenauswahl" applet?
Ok, got it... The icon comes not with the applet (kdemod-kdeutils-charselectapplet) but with kcharselect (kdemod-kdeutils-kcharselect), so if you want to have the icons, just install kdemod-kdeutils-kcharselect ...

That's it! Installing kdemod-kdeutils-kcharselect gave the applet its icon.

funkyou wrote:

I know that the avahi-daemon needs some more time on startup, that why i have only the avahi-dnscond prefixed with an @, and not the avahi-daemon... One question: Do you get your IP per DHCP? It could be that avahi needs a running network, and just starts too fast while the network is not fully up... I would suggest to set up a static network connection and start it via the network init script (and not the networkmanager) and see if that works...

Ok, I think I am a bit further now, after studying /var/log/daemons.log. networkmanager and dhcp seem to have nothing to do with this issue, but the fact, that avahi-daemon kills itself on startup & restarts without root privileges:

avahi-daemon[3959]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS.
avahi-daemon[3959]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.218.
avahi-daemon[3959]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.218 on eth0.
avahi-daemon[3959]: Got SIGTERM, quitting.
avahi-daemon[3959]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.218.
avahi-dnsconfd[4526]: read(): EOF
avahi-daemon[5272]: Found user 'avahi' (UID 84) and group 'avahi' (GID 84).
avahi-daemon[5272]: Successfully dropped root privileges.
avahi-daemon[5272]: avahi-daemon 0.6.16 starting up.
avahi-daemon[5272]: Successfully called chroot().
avahi-daemon[5272]: Successfully dropped remaining capabilities.
avahi-daemon[5272]: Loading service file /services/sftp-ssh.service.
avahi-daemon[5272]: Loading service file /services/ssh.service.
avahi-daemon[5272]: socket() failed: Address family not supported by protocol
avahi-daemon[5272]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS.
avahi-daemon[5272]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.218.
avahi-daemon[5272]: Network interface enumeration completed.
avahi-daemon[5272]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.218 on eth0.
avahi-daemon[5272]: Registering HINFO record with values 'I686'/'LINUX'.
avahi-daemon[5272]: Server startup complete. Host name is hostname.local. Local service cookie is 2247435772.
avahi-daemon[5272]: Service "Remote Terminal on hostname" (/services/ssh.service) successfully established.
avahi-daemon[5272]: Service "SFTP File Transfer on hostname" (/services/sftp-ssh.service) successfully established.

As I see it, avhi-daemon gets started on boot by the init-script with root privileges sucessfully and reports back [DONE], but then it kills itself, to start with a new PID as user:group avahi:avahi. In the meantime avahi-dnsconfd gets started by the init-script, but can not connect to the selfkilled avahi-daemon-process. That explains, why it can be started without problem manually after boot.

If you are running the same version of avahi, this exact same problem has to hit your machine also, as well as all the other Arch users, so please have a look after booting with 'ps fax | grep avahi' and 'cat /var/log/daemons.log | grep avahi'.

The question is now, how to tell avahi-dnsconfd to wait and connect to the second avahi-daemon process?

Oin · 2007-02-01 21:03:44

I just tried kdemod and while it looks like a good idea and initiative, I don't think I'll be using it in favour of the default arch one. This is why:
- I don't like the SUSE kmenu
- I'm not very comfortable with having a non-standard kde (I mean the additional patches) of course I might not be getting the whole point here
- where's kmail?

On the other hand I liked that it was very fast and I generally like the idea of having all those Kprograms packaged individually. Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea if the arch dev team would get bigger, or perhaps an official KDE packaging team would be created just to package everything KDE the way it should be. I think that enough people could be found to do this.

Anyway: kudos funkyou!

fk · 2007-02-01 21:06:48

I can#t use Jabber with Kopete, is this disabeld? I don't found an PKGBUILD, where are they?

superstoned · 2007-02-01 21:52:28

Oin wrote:

I just tried kdemod and while it looks like a good idea and initiative, I don't think I'll be using it in favour of the default arch one. This is why:
- I don't like the SUSE kmenu

then do a right-mouse-click and choose 'use standard KDE menu'...

Oin wrote:

- I'm not very comfortable with having a non-standard kde (I mean the additional patches) of course I might not be getting the whole point here

well, these patches add certain functionality which isn't in KDE because it is either too new (and might make it into eg 3.5.7 or 3.5.8) or it needs patches to Qt which KDE can't control so it can't rely on them. I'ts indeed true you should test problems first on the default KDE packages too ensure you don't report kdemod problems to KDE upstream, they won't like that...

Oin wrote:

- where's kmail?

kdemod-kdepim-base i guess. or in kdepim-kontact?

Oin wrote:

On the other hand I liked that it was very fast and I generally like the idea of having all those Kprograms packaged individually. Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea if the arch dev team would get bigger, or perhaps an official KDE packaging team would be created just to package everything KDE the way it should be. I think that enough people could be found to do this.

it's not faster than the default KDE packages, maybe even slower in some things (because of some added patches). and for the seperate kde packages in official arch, i guess it's just too much work now, but maybe they'll do it for KDE 4 (it's supposed to get easier for packagers).

Oin wrote:

Anyway: kudos funkyou!

i agree with this ;-)

funkyou · 2007-02-02 07:34:47

fk wrote:

I can#t use Jabber with Kopete, is this disabeld? I don't found an PKGBUILD, where are they?

Kopete is built with jingle support and needs ortp 0.7.1 for that... I tried it with the actual ortp version from the repos, but no chance, or maybe i dont get it ... By the way:

ATTENTION Kopete:
----------
For Jabber support please install ortp (ONLY 0.7.1 WORKS!) speex, glib2, libjingle and expat.
# pacman -S glib2 expat speex libjingle
# wget http://www.kdemod.ath.cx/repo/stuff/ortp-0.7.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
# pacman -U ortp-0.7.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
----------
Please consider to put ortp to the Ignore line in your /etc/pacman.conf
to ensure that it will not be upgraded...
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The Kopete-Reloading-Kit is included. You can activate it in the prefs,
themes are in /opt/kde/share/apps/kopete/images/

You can find the PKGBUILDs here: http://www.kdemod.ath.cx/repo/pkgbuilds/ ... I upgrade them fairly often when i have made changes, but dont ecpect them to always be the freshest version...

Oin wrote:

I just tried kdemod and while it looks like a good idea and initiative, I don't think I'll be using it in favour of the default arch one. This is why:
- I don't like the SUSE kmenu

Well, i have now included an install file with kdebase that cleary says that you can disable the menu... Comes with the next update...

Oin wrote:

- I'm not very comfortable with having a non-standard kde (I mean the additional patches) of course I might not be getting the whole point here

Hey, kdemod has fewer patches than SuSE or Kubuntu for example Some of them give you aditional eyecandy (most if it is configurabe) or some functionality like the merged stop/reload button in konqueror (you have to add it manually) or the new konqueror sidebar... Even kickoff is a lot better than the standard kmenu, at least for me. But thats (as always) a question of personal preference, and thats probably the point why you can disable it if you dont like it...

Oin wrote:

- where's kmail?

KMail should be installed with the base install (pacman -S kdemod), just follow the installation howto at the website and take a look at the list of included packages...

Oin wrote:

On the other hand I liked that it was very fast and I generally like the idea of having all those Kprograms packaged individually. Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea if the arch dev team would get bigger, or perhaps an official KDE packaging team would be created just to package everything KDE the way it should be. I think that enough people could be found to do this.
Anyway: kudos funkyou!

Thanks. Well, if someone want to contribute, just do it I am always glad when someone here points me to a mistake i made or sends me some new PKGBUILDs etc...

tafsen · 2007-02-02 08:57:48

funkyou wrote:

the new konqueror sidebar

Are you talking about the Baghira sidebar?

Master One · 2007-02-02 09:13:05

tafsen wrote:

funkyou wrote:
the new konqueror sidebar
Are you talking about the Baghira sidebar?

BTW The icon for the Baghira sidebar is also missing. Is that right?

Master One · 2007-02-02 09:20:31

Concerning the mentioned avahi issues:

I really don't want to be off-topic in this thread, because it seems to be a general Arch issue not related to KDEMOD, so please, everybody, who is running avahi-daemon & avahi-dnsconf, have a look at this thread., and post any comments there.

Because nobody responded so far concerning the output of 'ps fax | grep avahi' and 'cat /var/log/daemons.log | grep avahi' after boot, I still don't know, if this is really a general problem, or just my installation, but regarding the available info, this problem with avahi-dnsconf not starting indicates to be present on all machines running Arch.

funkyou · 2007-02-02 09:34:14

tafsen wrote:

funkyou wrote:
the new konqueror sidebar
Are you talking about the Baghira sidebar?

No, i am talking about the Sidebar-TNG... It seems that not many people know how to activate it, so here we go:

1 - close all konqueror windows
2 - open ~/.kde/share/config/konqsidebartng.rc
3 - change SidebarStyle=0 to SidebarStyle=1 under [filemanagement] (if that line doesnt exist, just create it)
4 - voila, new sidebar

It looks a bit cluttered at the beginning, but you can configure what items should be visible...

I dont use that thing though... The baghira sidebar is the best option for me. I just enabled it, closed konqueror, and added the following line under [filemanagement] in ~/.kde/share/config/konqsidebartng.rc: HideTabs=true ... So you get a cool, finder-like look

Master One wrote:

BTW The icon for the Baghira sidebar is also missing. Is that right?

Yes, thats normal behaviour because the full baghira is not installed but just its sidebar... But you can choose the icon by right-ckicking the entry I have a hidden sidebar, so it dont bothers me that much...

Master One wrote:

Concerning the mentioned avahi issues:
I really don't want to be off-topic in this thread, because it seems to be a general Arch issue not related to KDEMOD, so please, everybody, who is running avahi-daemon & avahi-dnsconf, have a look at this thread., and post any comments there.
Because nobody responded so far concerning the output of 'ps fax | grep avahi' and 'cat /var/log/daemons.log | grep avahi' after boot, I still don't know, if this is really a general problem, or just my installation, but regarding the available info, this problem with avahi-dnsconf not starting indicates to be present on all machines running Arch.

I`ll post my output shortly...

Master One · 2007-02-02 13:10:04

funkyou wrote:

Yes, i have that icon

BTW Complete forgot to mention, you have an awesame desktop look on that picture. Can you tell more about it (which themes, iconsets, apps,...)?

superstoned · 2007-02-02 13:47:10

Master One wrote:

funkyou wrote:
Yes, i have that icon
BTW Complete forgot to mention, you have an awesame desktop look on that picture. Can you tell more about it (which themes, iconsets, apps,...)?

yeah, funkyou, can you post the color scheme?

and i see you do use transparancy etc. i tried it, with the crystal windec here, but it behaves weird... the window decoration shows frequent artefacts... do you have this problem as well?

funkyou · 2007-02-02 13:47:40

Master One wrote:

funkyou wrote:
Yes, i have that icon
BTW Complete forgot to mention, you have an awesame desktop look on that picture. Can you tell more about it (which themes, iconsets, apps,...)?

Thanks. Here is what i use:

QT-Style: Polyester
Windec: Crystal
Icons: SnowIsh as base set + Oxygen SVN + some others i forgot, mixed together into my personal icons.tar.gz
Kicker with background image
Kicker Applets: kima
SuperKaramba: Thunderbird Mail (altered to match the other widgets), Trash, KaramTop

The background is here, and the color scheme here

About the apps, i just use the obvious ones Opera for webbrowsing, KFTPgrabber for FTP, Kopete for chat, Scribus for layouts, Amarok, Konversation, Konsole, KTorrent, KGet, Kate etc etc... Ah, and beryl-svn + aquamarine + extra plugins. The only non KDE apps i use are Gimpshop + Openoffice...

Last edited by funkyou (2007-02-02 13:50:27)

superstoned · 2007-02-02 13:56:25

so you don't use kwin but you use beryl for transparancy/shadows etc?

seems here konsole screws up it's windowdecoration, while the other apps are OK... very weird.

superstoned · 2007-02-02 14:25:42

btw another weird thing: why don't the xscreensaver screensavers show up in KDE's screensaver configuration? is this my fault? anybody knows?

funkyou · 2007-02-02 14:45:55

superstoned wrote:

so you don't use kwin but you use beryl for transparancy/shadows etc?
seems here konsole screws up it's windowdecoration, while the other apps are OK... very weird.

Yes, since a few weeks i compile beryl usually once per day and it works good for me... Aquamarine uses the standard KDE decorations, so i get nice integration... I had some issues with crystal too, but when using kwin. It seemed that only the small border around the windows didnt got repainted always. But beside that, no problems...

superstoned wrote:

btw another weird thing: why don't the xscreensaver screensavers show up in KDE's screensaver configuration? is this my fault? anybody knows?

Screensavers are working here, dont know... The only package i have installed is xscreensaver...

funkyou · 2007-02-03 15:34:04

Oops... I have fixed it

Adrynalyne · 2007-02-03 17:03:31

Funkyou, did you have any trouble with KaramTop not saving its location properly on restart of Superkaramba or KDE?

It wont stick to where I want it, even when locked.

tafsen · 2007-02-03 17:16:55

funkyou wrote:

tafsen wrote:
funkyou wrote:
the new konqueror sidebar
Are you talking about the Baghira sidebar?
No, i am talking about the Sidebar-TNG... It seems that not many people know how to activate it, so here we go:
1 - close all konqueror windows
2 - open ~/.kde/share/config/konqsidebartng.rc
3 - change SidebarStyle=0 to SidebarStyle=1 under [filemanagement] (if that line doesnt exist, just create it)
4 - voila, new sidebar

I don't have the konqsidebartng.rc file, can you just creat it and put in [filemanagement] and that line?

Black_Codec · 2007-02-04 13:37:27

Hi i see your work and its a great work! Only one thing when i download the PKGBUILD zipped i see that they are the 3.5.5 version and i see that your packages are the 3.5.6 can u upload the new PKGBUILD zipped please? So people that want to help u can do it?

funkyou · 2007-02-04 14:36:22

Black_Codec wrote:

Hi i see your work and its a great work! Only one thing when i download the PKGBUILD zipped i see that they are the 3.5.5 version and i see that your packages are the 3.5.6 can u upload the new PKGBUILD zipped please? So people that want to help u can do it?

Everything is available here: http://kdemod.ath.cx/repo/

Direct link to the tarred PKGBUILDs: http://kdemod.ath.cx/repo/pkgbuilds/kde … lds.tar.gz

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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

#295 2007-02-02 14:45:55

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

#296 2007-02-03 15:34:04

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

#297 2007-02-03 17:03:31

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

#298 2007-02-03 17:16:55

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

#299 2007-02-04 13:37:27

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

#300 2007-02-04 14:36:22

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

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