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#626 2007-03-26 11:08:23

metromini
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From: Jakarta, Indonesia
Registered: 2005-08-02
Posts: 39

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

Is it possible to get Krita without install KOffice?
Guys, what image program do you use in KDE to replace Gimp?

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#627 2007-03-26 11:44:28

Susu
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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

I found Krita very limited and it was crashing all the time the last time I tried. And in fact I don't want to replace gimp. You're surely know that you CAN use gtk(2) apps within KDE, don't you?! ;-)


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#628 2007-03-26 12:01:25

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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

Installed qt-enhanced pgkbuild version. Seems to be helping.. but kopete segfaults, clicking on system icon I get "malformed url system:/"


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#629 2007-03-27 07:36:18

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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

metromini wrote:

Is it possible to get Krita without install KOffice?
Guys, what image program do you use in KDE to replace Gimp?

I would use GIMP. Krita is not yet a replacement.


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#630 2007-03-27 08:44:33

Pajaro
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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

chaosgeisterchen wrote:
metromini wrote:

Is it possible to get Krita without install KOffice?
Guys, what image program do you use in KDE to replace Gimp?

I would use GIMP. Krita is not yet a replacement.

Completely agree.

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#631 2007-03-27 10:33:32

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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

back again,

my girlfriend is back from indonesia, so i was busy over the last days big_smile

qdlaty: the last svn update was 11 days ago, and i will update today to the latest changes... kdelibs should compile with automake 1.9, i had no problems here...

jinn: did you install the whole kdemod group? installing kdemod by fetching single packages will always end in a small disaster, trust me wink also notice that kopete needs some stuff from /community ...



i am currently building a proper qt package which will be uploaded soon... svn will also be updated today


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#632 2007-03-27 17:21:32

jinn
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Posts: 506

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

@funkyou,

Thank you for your tip. But I think the whole idea with kdemod is that one can install single packets instead of groups of packets from kde. It could anyway very well be as you say.

This is the  backtrace i got from the crash:

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[KCrash handler]
#6  0xb7ecb186 in Kopete::Contact::hasProperty () from /opt/kde/lib/libkopete.so.1
#7  0xb7f13d54 in Kopete::Contact::property () from /opt/kde/lib/libkopete.so.1
#8  0xb516ad92 in MSNNotifySocket::parseCommand () from /opt/kde/lib/libkopete_msn_shared.so.0
#9  0xb514f2c9 in MSNSocket::parseLine () from /opt/kde/lib/libkopete_msn_shared.so.0
#10 0xb5154919 in MSNSocket::slotReadLine () from /opt/kde/lib/libkopete_msn_shared.so.0
#11 0xb5156976 in MSNSocket::qt_invoke () from /opt/kde/lib/libkopete_msn_shared.so.0
#12 0xb51698b3 in MSNNotifySocket::qt_invoke () from /opt/kde/lib/libkopete_msn_shared.so.0
#13 0xb6a9cc29 in QObject::activate_signal () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#14 0xb6dc77ae in QSignal::signal () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#15 0xb6ab89a5 in QSignal::activate () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#16 0xb6abfc83 in QSingleShotTimer::event () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#17 0xb6a3e3d7 in QApplication::internalNotify () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#18 0xb6a3f18f in QApplication::notify () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#19 0xb71293be in KApplication::notify () from /opt/kde/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#20 0xb6a3389c in QEventLoop::activateTimers () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#21 0xb69ed7bc in QEventLoop::processEvents () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#22 0xb6a54ca1 in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#23 0xb6a54b46 in QEventLoop::exec () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#24 0xb6a3e03f in QApplication::exec () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#25 0x080824b0 in ?? ()
#26 0xbf8ee2dc in ?? ()
#27 0xbf8ee410 in ?? ()
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#29 0x00000000 in ?? ()

What does kopete need from community? I thought the dependancies would automatically fix that if It needed some packets.


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#633 2007-03-27 18:06:55

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From: Italy
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Posts: 83

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

They are not true dependencies: kopete should work without them, but not with all the features:

  echo "ATTENTION Kopete:"
  echo "----------"
  echo "The Kopete jabber module has been compiled with support for jingle..."
  echo " "
  echo "To use Jabber, please install ortp, speex, glib2, libjingle and expat."
  echo " "
  echo "# pacman -S ortp glib2 expat speex libjingle"
  echo " "
  echo "JABBER WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT THESE PACKAGES !!!"
  echo "YOU NEED THE LATEST LIBJINGLE FROM /COMMUNITY (CURRENTLY 0.13)"
  echo " "
  echo "This version has experimental support for ortp versions higher than 0.7.1."
  echo "Please report any errors or bugs with jabber or jingle..."
  echo "----------"
  echo "The Kopete-Reloading-Kit is included. You can activate it in the prefs,"
  echo "and themes are available in /opt/kde/share/apps/kopete/images/"

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#634 2007-03-27 18:16:45

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Posts: 506

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

I see. But I dont use jabber. Only msn and yahoo. So kopete doesnt need those packets in my case.


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#635 2007-03-27 18:20:42

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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

jinn,

what you say about single packages is true, but kde needs a set of packages to operate smoothly. the kdemod-group is the current minimal install and i think its very ok, because there will be only a minimum set of apps/libs installed. everything further is modular...

i dont know whats going on with your kopete. are you using some 3rd party plugins or skins/$whatever? please try a little bit around with that stuff, and also with your accounts.


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#636 2007-03-27 18:25:11

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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

May I ask the official position on the kpdf package? kpdf will be dropped or it will cohesist with kpdf2? Thanks in advance.

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#637 2007-03-27 20:14:21

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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

I'll ask Dunkelstern about kpdf2. In my opinion kpdf should not be dropped, but kpdf2 will replace kpdf upon installing it and vice versa, so we can have both ones available. maybe we will provide kpdf2 as the default, but as said before, i will talk to dunkelstern about that and what he thinks about.


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#638 2007-03-27 20:36:56

jinn
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Posts: 506

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

@funkyou

thank you.. Finally fixed it.. I dont really know what the problem was but, I totally removed kopete, also the kopeterc. For some reason running pacman with the flags -Rns where n stands for nosave.. but it did not remove kopeterc, removed it manually this time and it worked.


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#639 2007-03-27 20:55:44

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Registered: 2005-04-18
Posts: 32

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

Something is wrong with one kdelibs patches - I managed to compile regular kdelibs while I'm stuck with a function-definition is not allowed here before '{' token

One of packages installed after kdelibs had to break this compilation. But which one??

--EDIT---
Seem to me that kdelibs-3.5.6-execute_feedback.patch breaks the compilation. Why it was OK before...

--EDIT2--

kdelibs from SVN trunk 56 compile without problems even with the problematic patch.

Thanks for upgrade.

Last edited by qdlaty (2007-03-27 22:50:36)

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#640 2007-03-27 22:48:46

hacosta
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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

For some reason running pacman with the flags -Rns where n stands for nosave.. but it did not remove kopeterc, removed it manually this time and it worked.

n option removes only global configuration  files, not custom settings in you home

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#641 2007-03-28 17:23:49

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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

funkyou wrote:

I'll ask Dunkelstern about kpdf2. In my opinion kpdf should not be dropped, but kpdf2 will replace kpdf upon installing it and vice versa, so we can have both ones available. maybe we will provide kpdf2 as the default, but as said before, i will talk to dunkelstern about that and what he thinks about.

Thanks. smile

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#642 2007-03-29 10:14:23

jinn
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From: Gothenburg
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Posts: 506

Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

I found out the real reason my kopete was crashing.. After deleting the kopeterc and setting the new settings again, I noticed that kopete started crashing again. This was because of the kopete-reloading-kit. I chose the same theme and it seemed to be working just fine, but when restarting the computer and logging into kopete I got the same problem. Now running kopete without the reloading-kit theme and works just fine.


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#643 2007-03-29 10:41:48

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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

@funkyou

Do you have a problem with the "listen to" plugin in Kopete?

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#644 2007-03-29 11:53:18

pressh
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Registered: 2005-08-14
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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

@funkyou
the superkaramba package needs gtk and xmms to run

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#645 2007-03-29 13:14:58

funkyou
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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

tafsen,
i do not use kopete but psi... if you provide some more info, maybe someone can help you.


pressh,
hm, we have a patch included for superkaramba that should make the xmms dependency obsolete. I will check about the gtk dependency...


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#646 2007-03-29 13:34:43

pressh
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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

funkyou wrote:

pressh,
hm, we have a patch included for superkaramba that should make the xmms dependency obsolete. I will check about the gtk dependency...

yeah well, it didn't start without it wink

[root@pressh-laptop ronald]# pacman -Q | grep karamba
kdemod-kdeutils-superkaramba 3.5.6-2
[root@pressh-laptop ronald]# pacman -R xmms
removing xmms... done.
[root@pressh-laptop ronald]# exit
exit
ronald@pressh-laptop:~$ superkaramba
superkaramba: error while loading shared libraries: libxmms.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
ronald@pressh-laptop:~$ su
Password:

[root@pressh-laptop ronald]# pacman -R gtk
removing gtk... done.
[root@pressh-laptop ronald]# exit
exit
ronald@pressh-laptop:~$ superkaramba
superkaramba: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
ronald@pressh-laptop:~$

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#647 2007-03-30 15:33:53

tafsen
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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

funkyou wrote:

tafsen,
i do not use kopete but psi... if you provide some more info, maybe someone can help you.

What info do you need? I've activated it as I suppose to, but there appear nothing under the Tools menu in the chat

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#648 2007-04-01 00:04:49

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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

After adding miniprogram MailKount in the kicker, and then removing it, kicker crashed.
I tried it two times, kicker crashed two times...

Last edited by defcon (2007-04-01 00:07:43)


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#649 2007-04-01 00:12:58

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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

try 3.. j/k... file a bug report in bugs.kde.org

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#650 2007-04-01 01:16:17

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Re: kdemod - a lightified and modular KDE + additional patches

I tried it again, and the kicker crashed.

the log from gdb:

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[KCrash handler]
#6  0xb5714037 in Mailbox::~Mailbox ()
   from /opt/kde/lib/mailkount_panelapplet.so
#7  0xb570e874 in MailKount::~MailKount ()
   from /opt/kde/lib/mailkount_panelapplet.so
#8  0xb7ec7e2e in AppletContainer::slotRemoved ()
   from /opt/kde/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so
#9  0xb7eba57d in ContainerArea::removeContainer ()
   from /opt/kde/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so
#10 0xb7eba68b in ContainerArea::qt_invoke ()
   from /opt/kde/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so
#11 0xb6e89c29 in QObject::activate_signal () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#12 0xb7ec285e in BaseContainer::removeme ()
   from /opt/kde/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so
#13 0xb7ec79d9 in AppletContainer::showAppletMenu ()
   from /opt/kde/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so
#14 0xb7ec7aee in AppletContainer::qt_invoke ()
   from /opt/kde/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so
#15 0xb6e89c29 in QObject::activate_signal () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#16 0xb6e8a83d in QObject::activate_signal () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#17 0xb7ec024a in AppletHandle::showAppletMenu ()
   from /opt/kde/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so
#18 0xb7ec0344 in AppletHandle::menuButtonPressed ()
   from /opt/kde/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so
#19 0xb7ec042e in AppletHandle::eventFilter ()
   from /opt/kde/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so
#20 0xb6e89536 in QObject::activate_filters () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#21 0xb6e8959b in QObject::event () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#22 0xb6ec26dc in QWidget::event () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#23 0xb6e2b3d7 in QApplication::internalNotify ()
   from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#24 0xb6e2c36b in QApplication::notify () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#25 0xb752e3be in KApplication::notify () from /opt/kde/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#26 0xb6dcae89 in QETWidget::translateMouseEvent ()
   from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#27 0xb6dc9b91 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent ()
   from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#28 0xb6dda4d1 in QEventLoop::processEvents () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#29 0xb6e41ca1 in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#30 0xb6e41b46 in QEventLoop::exec () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#31 0xb6e2b03f in QApplication::exec () from /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#32 0xb7eb0f0d in kdemain () from /opt/kde/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so
#33 0x080486b2 in ?? ()
#34 0x00000001 in ?? ()
#35 0xbf8cf174 in ?? ()
#36 0xbf8cf0d8 in ?? ()
#37 0xb6980ff4 in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6
#38 0xb7f82eb0 in ?? () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
#39 0xbf8cf0f0 in ?? ()
#40 0xbf8cf148 in ?? ()
#41 0xb686f7c8 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6
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