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#1 2006-07-20 06:49:07

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eclipse vs emacs

That's all.


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#2 2006-07-20 13:32:43

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

One's an astronomical phenomenon, the other's a line of computers released by Apple.

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?la … ord2=emacs

Eclipse wins.

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#3 2006-07-20 13:42:32

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

the editor was made before the computer. so it wins.

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#4 2006-07-20 15:40:09

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

If you aren't an emacs guru, eclipse will get you up and running with java pretty quick. And you can set it to use emacs keybindings.

On the downside, eclipse is freaking huge.

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#5 2006-07-20 15:49:50

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

i think emacs is pretty big for a text editor but i am also the one that uses nano for everything.

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#6 2006-07-20 16:20:05

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

syamajala wrote:

i think emacs is pretty big for a text editor but i am also the one that uses nano for everything.

Emacs is big (~19MB), but it's not eclipse-big (~150MB).

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#7 2006-07-20 16:27:50

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

For me better is emacs, eclipse it's too big and too slow for my machine.

syamajala wrote:

i am also the one that uses nano for everything.

Not only you wink Nano is the best for everything.

Kermit.

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#8 2006-07-20 18:30:33

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

My choice editor is emacs. But sometime I use pico (it's similar to nano) to edit small config files or when I'm at the console.

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#9 2006-07-20 22:41:21

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

vim!

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#10 2006-07-21 01:10:16

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

\ grabs chair and popcorn waiting for flames to ensue  big_smile

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#11 2006-07-21 01:17:40

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

Windows Notepad, hands down!

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#12 2006-07-21 01:21:53

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

elasticdog wrote:

flames to ensue  big_smile

not a chance this time, rather it will be freshmint for your editor life!

I am fresh
http://www.last.fm/music/Monkey+Mafia


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#13 2006-07-21 03:00:14

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

Penguin wrote:

vim!

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#14 2006-07-21 05:46:29

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

Vim too.

Is there a way to make eclipse use vim keybindings?

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#15 2006-07-21 11:04:17

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

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#16 2006-07-21 13:15:31

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

mingfal wrote:

Vim too.

Is there a way to make eclipse use vim keybindings?

Perhaps with a plugin. I didn't see anything in the settings.

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#17 2006-07-21 13:24:53

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

Penguin wrote:

av6bg.jpg

Hey is there such a editor which is named "deficite"?
The URL is http://deficite.sf.net or http://sf.net/projects/deficite ??


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#18 2006-07-21 13:47:28

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

118M    Aquamacs Emacs.app

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#19 2006-07-21 17:45:05

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

user wrote:
Penguin wrote:

av6bg.jpg

Hey is there such a editor which is named "deficite"?
The URL is http://deficite.sf.net or http://sf.net/projects/deficite ??

He was implying that he uses me as an editor. He dictates everything to me and I write it for him.

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#20 2006-07-21 18:12:07

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

The thread asked which was better: Eclipse or Emacs... and Vim won! What an editor smile

I too use Vim, though I wouldn't call myself a power-user.

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#21 2006-07-21 23:11:37

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

tomfitzyuk wrote:

The thread asked which was better: Eclipse or Emacs... and Vim won! What an editor smile

I too use Vim, though I wouldn't call myself a power-user.

as an editor, vim win, yeah
but *** is different from editor.


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#22 2006-07-24 01:40:59

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

if you want an editor, choose an editor like emacs/vim.
if you want an IDE, choose an IDE like eclipse/netbeans/IDEA.
"eclipse vs. emacs" is like "apples vs. oranges"

vim plugin for eclipse

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#23 2006-07-24 03:22:54

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

I really disagree with you there because both VIM and EMacs are very well suited to being IDE's. I do a lot of programming and I accomplish everything from gVim. I never leave gVim for anything. This is giving me some serious deja vu though. I can remember a post a while back that argued on what an IDE really is.

I also don't see it as apples vs. oranges because if you use Emacs and Eclipse as development environments, they're both accomplishing the same thing. It comes down to the style of development environment you like. So it's more like Golden Delicious vs. Granny Smith (I prefer Granny Smith, BTW. Golden Delicious is yummy too)

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#24 2006-07-24 06:34:47

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

deficite wrote:

I also don't see it as apples vs. oranges because if you use Emacs and Eclipse as development environments, they're both accomplishing the same thing. It comes down to the style of development environment you like. So it's more like Golden Delicious vs. Granny Smith (I prefer Granny Smith, BTW. Golden Delicious is yummy too)

So you prefer Eclipse, for the Subject of this threads.(and you think emacs is yummy too)


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#25 2006-07-24 15:43:41

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Re: eclipse vs emacs

deficite wrote:

I really disagree with you there because both VIM and EMacs are very well suited to being IDE's. I do a lot of programming and I accomplish everything from gVim. I never leave gVim for anything. This is giving me some serious deja vu though. I can remember a post a while back that argued on what an IDE really is.

I also don't see it as apples vs. oranges because if you use Emacs and Eclipse as development environments, they're both accomplishing the same thing. It comes down to the style of development environment you like. So it's more like Golden Delicious vs. Granny Smith (I prefer Granny Smith, BTW. Golden Delicious is yummy too)

I see your point, and ofcourse emacs and vim can be used as an IDE as well, as you put it, "It comes down to the style of development environment you like". I just feel the environments they provide are so different that its not really comparable.
emacs and vim are good editors that with add-ons can be used as IDEs, while I see eclipse more as a platform for different tools, in which one of the tools happen to be a good editor.

I guess its down to what your definition of an IDE is...

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