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Hey, this is the first time I've 'had to' post a problem I am having here in the forums. I have spent a bit of time in the wiki. I knew this day would come. I've been using Arch for less then 2 years. Before that spent some time learning from the Ubuntu crew.
I am running Arch(bootstrap image-if that matters) from an external Western Digital 1TB hdd as a second(it became my first) OS using KDE Plasma as DE. I have a Strix z2701 Gaming motherboard with intel chipset, VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208 [GeForce GT 710B] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]). I'll post other info as I go on. I have had KDE plasma running but its kinda heavy and gives me some minor freeze ups once in a while when I am running teamviewer, my text editor, slack, etc. And I more often then I like, have to restart my NetworkManager when I first log on. So I decided to install a lighter desktop for those situations and use kde when I am flying solo. I followed the LXDE wiki and I did some sifting through the forums on this topic too. I installed the requirements: from the wiki:
LXDE requires at least lxde-common, lxsession and openbox (or another window manager) to be installed. The lxde group contains the full desktop.
. I rebooted and found the
at my login screen. I chose lxde and it started right up and I was in business, so I thought. The desktop looked fine the applications worked and the file manager. I tried to ping the arch server as I normally do when I jump in a konsole but it gave me service not found. I tried both 8.8.8.8 and arch server. So I checked
lscpi -k | grep Network
and got this:
[ 13.493158] platform regulatory.0: Direct firmware load for regulatory.db failed with error -2
[ 15.752077] ath10k_pci 0000:03:00.0: Direct firmware load for ath10k/pre-cal-pci-0000:03:00.0.bin failed with error -2
[ 15.752085] ath10k_pci 0000:03:00.0: Direct firmware load for ath10k/cal-pci-0000:03:00.0.bin failed with error -2
[ 15.812759] ath10k_pci 0000:03:00.0: firmware ver WLAN.RM.4.4.1-00051-QCARMSWP-1 api 6 features wowlan,ignore-otp crc32 c3fd4411
I tried restarting the NewtworkManager, netctl, wpa_supplicant and no luck. Btw, wpa_supplicant returned this:
[thisGuy@arch ~]$ wpa_supplicant -B -i wlp3s0 -c <(wpa_passphrase )
Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
wlp3s0: Failed to initialize driver interface
So I then thought maybe it wasn't loading the modules or something. I am a little new in the Linux world btw. (I will never go back to anything else)
But it looks like they are getting loaded here:
lsmod | grep ath*
File Edit Options Buffers Tools Text YASnippet Help
ath10k_pci 53248 0
ath10k_core 372736 1 ath10k_pci
ath 32768 1 ath10k_core
mac80211 892928 1 ath10k_core
cfg80211 733184 3 mac80211,ath,ath10k_core
intel_cstate 16384 0
nf_nat_ftp 16384 0
nf_nat 36864 1 nf_nat_ftp
nf_conntrack_ftp 20480 1 nf_nat_ftp
nf_conntrack 155648 8 nf_conntrack_ipv6,nf_conntrack_ftp,nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_conntrack_broadcast,nf_nat_ftp,nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,xt_conntrack,nf_nat
libata 278528 2 ahci,libahci
scsi_mod 258048 6 sd_mod,ses,usb_storage,scsi_transport_sas,libata,uas
libcrc32c 16384 2 nf_conntrack,nf_nat
Right? I am hoping someone can point me in the wright direction. The problem is that I don't really know how to debug this, or where to look really. But the KDE works just fine as is. And also, on my main drive I run Kubuntu 16.04 and I installed ubuntu-desktop as a secondary DE without any major problems. Just had to fiddle with some unity-plugin and that set up works just fine. So I do have or could get some more info if needed and help would be appreciated as I am sure someone can point me in the right direction. That, and I hope my question is clear enough and properly set up, if not I will fix it.
Oh, also, I tried installing MATE as well and got the same results
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Can you clarify your actual issue? From what I gather both KDE and LXDE work just fine but your actual issue is that you are not connected to the internet on any other desktop? And that you are sporadically disconnected when login into KDE? How did you set up your networkmanager connection? If you used plasma-nm and used user local encryption it might simply be that on other desktops kwallet is never probed and hence NetworkManager cannot get to the secrets of your connection, all of these issues, including the problem on KDE could be fixed by setting your connection to be handled as a system connection as opposed to a user connection.
See https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=233931 as well.
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And, please post the output of ip addr and of find /etc/systemd
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Thanks for the replies. So
Can you clarify your actual issue?
My first issue is that I couldn't drill down on what the actual issue was outside of my Wifi connection not working. LXDE would let me us the package manager with:
sudo pacman -Syu
but it was erratic. Sometimes I log on (LCDE) and it gives me the pacman ability and sometimes it would not hit the server. But it would Never
ping anything or connect to anything any other way.
How did you set up your networkmanager connection?
At first in the arch wiki I tried setting up
wpa_supplicant
, I tried using
wifi-menu
, and even
dhcpcd
until i realized/learned I wa\
s trying to use conflicting software and found
NetworkManager
was an easy way to manage my wifi.
But I kinda hear what you are syaing V1del. I am investingating that link you provided. I'll follow that lead and return with my findings
And, please post the output of ip addr and of find /etc/systemd
Here is my [b]ip addr[/b]:
✘ arcarius@archBoxHero ~ ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enp0s31f6: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state DOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether 60:45:cb:9c:3b:12 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlp3s0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether 1a:65:ec:30:54:fa brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
arcarius@archBoxHero ~
And here is my find /etc/systemd:
[1] + 28724 suspended emacs -nw Desktop/LXDESHIT/pings.txt
✘ ⚙ arcarius@archBoxHero ~ find /etc/systemd
/etc/systemd
/etc/systemd/journal-upload.conf
/etc/systemd/journald.conf
/etc/systemd/system
/etc/systemd/system/lvm2-lvmetad.service
/etc/systemd/system/lvm2-monitor.service
/etc/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants/sshd.socket
/etc/systemd/system/dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service
/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service
/etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service
/etc/systemd/system/dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/wpa_supplicant@wlp3s0.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/dhclient@wlp3s0.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/httpd.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/wpa_supplicant.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/sshd.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/ufw.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/nvidia-persistenced.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/mongodb.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/mariadb@.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/NetworkManager.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/remote-fs.target
/etc/systemd/system/dbus-fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1.service
/etc/systemd/coredump.conf
/etc/systemd/logind.conf
/etc/systemd/network
/etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf
/etc/systemd/system.conf
/etc/systemd/resolved.conf
/etc/systemd/user
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/gpg-agent-extra.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/gpg-agent-ssh.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/gpg-agent-browser.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/pulseaudio.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/dirmngr.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/gpg-agent.socket
/etc/systemd/journal-remote.conf
/etc/systemd/user.conf
⚙ arcarius@archBoxHero ~
And here is my systmctl status NetworkManager from LXDE and below that I will post the same stuff from when I am logged on to KDE Plasma:
arcarius@archBoxHero ~ systemctl status NetworkManager.service
● NetworkManager.service - Network Manager
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service.d
└─NetworkManager-ovs.conf
Active: active (running) since Thu 2018-02-08 10:40:32 EST; 9min ago
Docs: man:NetworkManager(8)
Main PID: 22812 (NetworkManager)
Tasks: 4 (limit: 4915)
CGroup: /system.slice/NetworkManager.service
└─22812 /usr/bin/NetworkManager --no-daemon
Feb 08 10:49:34 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104974.3233] device (wlp3s0): set-hw-addr: reset MAC address to
Feb 08 10:49:34 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104974.3275] device (wlp3s0): state change: prepare -> config (r
Feb 08 10:49:34 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104974.3277] device (wlp3s0): Activation: (wifi) access point 'P
Feb 08 10:49:34 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104974.3277] device (wlp3s0): state change: config -> need-auth
Feb 08 10:49:34 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <warn> [1518104974.3283] device (wlp3s0): No agents were available for this
Feb 08 10:49:34 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104974.3283] device (wlp3s0): state change: need-auth -> failed
Feb 08 10:49:34 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104974.3284] manager: NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTED
Feb 08 10:49:34 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <warn> [1518104974.3286] device (wlp3s0): Activation: failed for connection
Feb 08 10:49:34 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104974.3288] device (wlp3s0): state change: failed -> disconnect
Feb 08 10:49:34 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104974.3292] device (wlp3s0): set-hw-addr: set MAC address to FA
And here is some output when I am logged in on KDE Plasmathat I am comparing it too:
● NetworkManager.service - Network Manager
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service.d
└─NetworkManager-ovs.conf
Active: active (running) since Thu 2018-02-08 10:40:32 EST; 1min 54s ago
Docs: man:NetworkManager(8)
Main PID: 22812 (NetworkManager)
Tasks: 3 (limit: 4915)
CGroup: /system.slice/NetworkManager.service
└─22812 /usr/bin/NetworkManager --no-daemon
Feb 08 10:40:43 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104443.3309] device (wlp3s0): state change: ip-config -> ip-check (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
Feb 08 10:40:43 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104443.3321] device (wlp3s0): state change: ip-check -> secondaries (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
Feb 08 10:40:43 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104443.3325] device (wlp3s0): state change: secondaries -> activated (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
Feb 08 10:40:43 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104443.3328] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_LOCAL
Feb 08 10:40:43 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104443.3397] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_SITE
Feb 08 10:40:43 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104443.3398] policy: set 'Pineapple' (wlp3s0) as default for IPv4 routing and DNS
Feb 08 10:40:43 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104443.3400] dns-mgr: Writing DNS information to /usr/bin/resolvconf
Feb 08 10:40:43 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104443.5545] device (wlp3s0): Activation: successful, device activated.
Feb 08 10:40:43 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104443.5560] manager: startup complete
Feb 08 10:40:45 archBoxHero NetworkManager[22812]: <info> [1518104445.0229] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_GLOBAL
arcarius@archBoxHero ~ systemctl status dhcpcd.service
● dhcpcd.service - dhcpcd on all interfaces
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/dhcpcd.service; disabled; vendor preset: disabled)
Active: inactive (dead)
✘ arcarius@archBoxHero ~ ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enp0s31f6: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state DOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether 60:45:cb:9c:3b:12 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlp3s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
link/ether 58:00:e3:8f:1f:67 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.1.8/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute wlp3s0
valid_lft 86092sec preferred_lft 86092sec
inet6 fe80::3e30:1545:e707:f3da/64 scope link noprefixroute
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
1] + 28724 suspended emacs -nw Desktop/LXDESHIT/pings.txt
✘ ⚙ arcarius@archBoxHero ~ find /etc/systemd
/etc/systemd
/etc/systemd/journal-upload.conf
/etc/systemd/journald.conf
/etc/systemd/system
/etc/systemd/system/lvm2-lvmetad.service
/etc/systemd/system/lvm2-monitor.service
/etc/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants/sshd.socket
[c]/etc/systemd/system/dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service
/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service
/etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service
/etc/systemd/system/dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/wpa_supplicant@wlp3s0.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/dhclient@wlp3s0.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/httpd.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/wpa_supplicant.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/sshd.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/ufw.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/nvidia-persistenced.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/mongodb.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/mariadb@.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/NetworkManager.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/remote-fs.target
/etc/systemd/system/dbus-fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1.service
/etc/systemd/coredump.conf
/etc/systemd/logind.conf
/etc/systemd/network
/etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf
/etc/systemd/system.conf
/etc/systemd/resolved.conf
/etc/systemd/user
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/gpg-agent-extra.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/gpg-agent-ssh.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/gpg-agent-browser.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/pulseaudio.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/dirmngr.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/gpg-agent.socket
/etc/systemd/journal-remote.conf
/etc/systemd/user.conf
⚙ arcarius@archBoxHero ~
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There is a lot wrong there. Note that you have enabled wpa_supplicant@wlp3s0.service, dhclient@wlp3s0.service, wpa_supplicant.service, NetworkManager.service and a bunch of stuff with which I am not familiar that seems to involve NetworkManager and dbus. These things are all fighting with each other. Pick one; I assume that will be NetworkManager. That *service* will start wpa_supplicant, dhclient or dhcpcd as needed as daemons. When you enable the services for those things, the service unleashes their respective daemons and they fight with those started by the NetworkManager service.
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Ah, I know I have seen that having multiple services fight with each other has been a big issue with others. Shoot, I've seen many posts with this as a starting point for a solution. I will go ahead and disable all except NetworkManager and report back. Thanks ewaller
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So I went and disabled anything else that was related to wifi other than NetworkManger. I disabled and stopped wpa_supplicant*.service, netctl*.service, dhcpcd*.service. Here is the output for ipp addr not
arcarius@archBoxHero ~ systemctl status NetworkManager.service
● NetworkManager.service - Network Manager
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service.d
└─NetworkManager-ovs.conf
Active: inactive (dead) since Thu 2018-02-08 12:54:37 EST; 4min 57s ago
Docs: man:NetworkManager(8)
Process: 5832 ExecStart=/usr/bin/NetworkManager --no-daemon (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Main PID: 5832 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Feb 08 12:54:00 archBoxHero NetworkManager[5832]: <warn> [1518112440.9916] sup-iface[0x55e612f24170,wlp3s0]: connection disconnected (reason -3)
Feb 08 12:54:00 archBoxHero NetworkManager[5832]: <info> [1518112440.9968] device (wlp3s0): supplicant interface state: associated -> disconnected
Feb 08 12:54:01 archBoxHero NetworkManager[5832]: <info> [1518112441.0968] device (wlp3s0): supplicant interface state: disconnected -> inactive
Feb 08 12:54:05 archBoxHero NetworkManager[5832]: <info> [1518112445.8455] device (wlp3s0): supplicant interface state: inactive -> disabled
Feb 08 12:54:37 archBoxHero systemd[1]: Stopping Network Manager...
Feb 08 12:54:37 archBoxHero NetworkManager[5832]: <info> [1518112477.8478] caught SIGTERM, shutting down normally.
Feb 08 12:54:37 archBoxHero NetworkManager[5832]: <info> [1518112477.8485] device (wlp3s0): state change: disconnected -> unmanaged (reason 'unmanaged', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
Feb 08 12:54:37 archBoxHero NetworkManager[5832]: <info> [1518112477.8486] device (wlp3s0): set-hw-addr: reset MAC address to 58:00:E3:8F:1F:67 (unmanage)
Feb 08 12:54:37 archBoxHero NetworkManager[5832]: <info> [1518112477.8497] exiting (success)
Feb 08 12:54:37 archBoxHero systemd[1]: Stopped Network Manager
So I tried to restart NM with wpa_supplicant started and still no dice. I stopped wpa_supplicant and logged on to KDE plasma and I had to restart the NetworkManager but I am now connected to wifi on KDE. And here is the NM from KDE if it helps:
● NetworkManager.service - Network Manager
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service.d
└─NetworkManager-ovs.conf
Active: active (running) since Thu 2018-02-08 13:04:31 EST; 6min ago
Docs: man:NetworkManager(8)
Main PID: 9492 (NetworkManager)
Tasks: 3 (limit: 4915)
CGroup: /system.slice/NetworkManager.service
└─9492 /usr/bin/NetworkManager --no-daemon
Feb 08 13:04:42 archBoxHero NetworkManager[9492]: <info> [1518113082.2174] device (wlp3s0): state change: ip-config -> ip-check (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
Feb 08 13:04:42 archBoxHero NetworkManager[9492]: <info> [1518113082.2187] device (wlp3s0): state change: ip-check -> secondaries (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
Feb 08 13:04:42 archBoxHero NetworkManager[9492]: <info> [1518113082.2195] device (wlp3s0): state change: secondaries -> activated (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
Feb 08 13:04:42 archBoxHero NetworkManager[9492]: <info> [1518113082.2196] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_LOCAL
Feb 08 13:04:42 archBoxHero NetworkManager[9492]: <info> [1518113082.2213] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_SITE
Feb 08 13:04:42 archBoxHero NetworkManager[9492]: <info> [1518113082.2214] policy: set 'Pineapple' (wlp3s0) as default for IPv4 routing and DNS
Feb 08 13:04:42 archBoxHero NetworkManager[9492]: <info> [1518113082.2214] dns-mgr: Writing DNS information to /usr/bin/resolvconf
Feb 08 13:04:42 archBoxHero NetworkManager[9492]: <info> [1518113082.2504] device (wlp3s0): Activation: successful, device activated.
Feb 08 13:04:42 archBoxHero NetworkManager[9492]: <info> [1518113082.2508] manager: startup complete
Feb 08 13:04:43 archBoxHero NetworkManager[9492]: <info> [1518113083.4632] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_GLOBAL
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V1del1 mentioned setting up the settting my connection to be handled as a system connection and while the link he provided gives me an idea of what’s happening I am by to sure in where to find the information to do that. Do ewaller by chance happen to have any ideas on where I can find information to set my connection this way? It’s a broad search when I look for set WiFi connection to be handled by system. And thanks for this help.
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If you are in KDE, click on edit network configuration in the widget and then toggle the "make available to all users" switch.
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Bare-ntchicka-whernt-whernt!!!
That did it! Thanks so much birds. Now I can get back to work. I will mark this solved of course. Should I change the title to
meh, I will until someone says otherwise. Thanks for the valuable tools.
Last edited by ArchBoxHero (2018-02-08 19:26:29)
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