Xinit or Display Manager? [SOLVED]

JustAcouch · 2018-03-30 03:26:44

Hey guys, I just installed Arch - and am only at Xorg configuration. However, I am not really too sure what to choose. What would be the pros and cons of each?

I intend to make a lightweight system with i3-gaps, and eventually start ricing. I kind of lack an understanding of either/or - but so far I am leaning towards Xinit since it is light weight. Thanks in advance, and sorry if I sound ignorant.

I got my answers, so I will mark as [Solved] - however I would still like to hear opinions on this if you still care to give it.

Last edited by JustAcouch (2018-03-30 04:46:41)

Docbroke · 2018-03-30 04:09:30

Display manager don't do much over allowing you to choose your DE while consuming ram to give useless graphical display. You can start i3 easily with startx/xinit without need for display manager.

EDIT: I forgot to mention frequent bugs that comes with every update of some display managers.

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JustAcouch · 2018-03-30 04:32:14

Docbroke wrote:

Display manager don't do much over allowing you to choose your DE while consuming ram to give useless graphical display. You can start i3 easily with startx/xinit without need for display manager.
EDIT: I forgot to mention frequent bugs that comes with every update of some display managers.

Uh, okay. That was what I was thinking. I was just a little cautious because while reading over ArchWiki in between classes - I thought I read that it is incompatible with some programs (however, I think I just read it wrong since I was hurrying to my next class).

Since, you replied - which I appreciate - can I ask another question? I notice that on YouTube, a lot of people do things completely different from what the Wiki reads (such as mixing up steps or editing config files the Wiki never mentions). Is there a specific reason so many people disregard the Wiki and try to teach people their own way and make things seem a whole lot more complex?

Thanks for you reply by the way, I am going to proceed with Xinit!

jasonwryan · 2018-03-30 04:33:56

JustAcouch wrote:

I notice that on YouTube, a lot of people do things completely different from what the Wiki reads (such as mixing up steps or editing config files the Wiki never mentions). Is there a specific reason so many people disregard the Wiki and try to teach people their own way and make things seem a whole lot more complex?

Pretty safe to say that anyone uploading a "how to install Arch" video to youtube is a moron and has no clue what they are doing.

JustAcouch · 2018-03-30 04:43:26

jasonwryan wrote:

JustAcouch wrote:
I notice that on YouTube, a lot of people do things completely different from what the Wiki reads (such as mixing up steps or editing config files the Wiki never mentions). Is there a specific reason so many people disregard the Wiki and try to teach people their own way and make things seem a whole lot more complex?

Pretty safe to say that anyone uploading a "how to install Arch" video to youtube is a moron and has no clue what they are doing.

Lol. Nice, now I do not have to worry what these people are doing behind the scenes. It unnerved me a bit - especially since how I installed my Arch is completely different from how a lot of these other people are doing it. However, then again - I guess that would be expected - since how sandbox Arch seems to be (as far as I know).

Thanks for the response! I am liking this community and loving Arch so far!

Lone_Wolf · 2018-03-30 13:39:30

I feel display managers are great for people that want to hide the fact computers are complicated devices.
Usually those people abhor using the commandline and feel everything they want to do must be possible from the graphical environment in some kind of gui.

What is the first thing you want to do after your computer has finished starting up ?
In my case 99% of the time my first task after starting the pc is running pacman -Syu .
That task is best performed in a root tty started from a console login.

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Trilby · 2018-03-30 13:55:31

Xinit is a complex bloated chunk of spaghetti code but it works. Startx even more so.

Display managers were not constrained by the same tradition and history as these tools, so they could do away with much of what these tools do: they did away with working.

es20490446e · 2018-04-01 04:16:30

How do you know a car works well?
Because you don't have to think about how it works.
Except if you want to build the car yourself.

Lucid car

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Xinit or Display Manager? [SOLVED]

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