[KDE] Why kate doesn't show up in the "Recent applications" menu?

0BADC0DE · 2018-05-16 06:27:24

I have noticed that the text editor kate from the "Utilties" sub-menu never show up in there.
Programs like VirtualBox, Audacity, LibreOffice, konsole and k3b (all started from the "Application menu") do.
But not kate.
Is there any reason? Is there a way to fix this?

TIA.

c00ter · 2018-05-16 15:50:39

Works fine here. What do your logs say? What is the output when you run Kate from a terminal? Did you logout/in after installing Kate? What does your research into this (your) problem show? Plasma is a somewhat "heavy" environment and menu changes sometimes don't show immediately. Speaking of such, which KDE menu application is involved?

0BADC0DE · 2018-05-16 16:05:05

c00ter wrote:

What do your logs say?

Which logs?
The only thing I see in the logs (actually systemd journal) is something like this:

plasmashell[824]: KActivitiesStats( 0x564bc862e390 ) ResultModelPrivate::onResultScoreUpdated  result added: "applications:org.kde.kate.desktop" score: 5.95581 last: 1526453177 first: 1521384562

but I have no idea about the meaning.

c00ter wrote:

What is the output when you run Kate from a terminal?

There's no output at all.

c00ter wrote:

Did you logout/in after installing Kate?

Sure. I logout every day. I installed kate long ago.
Nonetheless my "recent applications" seems to be persistent among logins and logouts.
That's what I would expect from such a feature, though.

c00ter wrote:

What does your research into this (your) problem show?

No research so far, just wondering why some programs get into that menu, and some don't.

c00ter wrote:

Plasma is a somewhat "heavy" environment and menu changes sometimes don't show immediately. Speaking of such, which KDE menu application is involved?

I don't really get this point. Some programs get into the recents menu, and some don't. Those who do, do it immediately.

c00ter · 2018-05-16 20:03:37

0BADC0DE wrote:

Which logs?
The only thing I see in the logs (actually systemd journal) is something like this:
plasmashell[824]: KActivitiesStats( 0x564bc862e390 ) ResultModelPrivate::onResultScoreUpdated  result added: "applications:org.kde.kate.desktop" score: 5.95581 last: 1526453177 first: 1521384562
but I have no idea about the meaning.

You added or changed kate. Whatever it was, this reflects it.

There's no output at all.

To be expected if kate loads correctly.

Sure. I logout every day. I installed kate long ago.
Nonetheless my "recent applications" seems to be persistent among logins and logouts.
That's what I would expect from such a feature, though.

It will show on a "recently used" menu but not a "recently added" menu.

No research so far, just wondering why some programs get into that menu, and some don't.

Your's is the first post of this nature that I recall in recent times. Hence I ask if you have at least Googled the problem and/or other research so we don't have to do it for you. My applications launcher, the stock Kicker (?) application launcher--actually a plasmoid nowadays--does not have a "Recent applications" menu.

I don't really get this point. Some programs get into the recents menu, and some don't. Those who do, do it immediately.

I meant do not expect a newly added application to immediately show up in the app launcher. Sometimes a logout/in or reboot may be required.

Look, if you are using any application launcher--there are several--other than the default for Plasma, say so and which one. Also, please differentiate between "recently added" and recently used."

0BADC0DE · 2018-05-17 06:07:10

c00ter wrote:

Sure. I logout every day. I installed kate long ago.
Nonetheless my "recent applications" seems to be persistent among logins and logouts.
That's what I would expect from such a feature, though.
It will show on a "recently used" menu but not a "recently added" menu.

I never talked about "recently added". The OP title says "recent applications". I cannot find any "recently added" sub-menu to the KDE Application menu, though.

c00ter wrote:

No research so far, just wondering why some programs get into that menu, and some don't.
Your's is the first post of this nature that I recall in recent times. Hence I ask if you have at least Googled the problem and/or other research so we don't have to do it for you. My applications launcher, the stock Kicker (?) application launcher--actually a plasmoid nowadays--does not have a "Recent applications" menu.

Mine is the first post as it seems I am among the few using the Application Menu instead of the Application Dashboard or the Application Launcher.

c00ter wrote:

I don't really get this point. Some programs get into the recents menu, and some don't. Those who do, do it immediately.
I meant do not expect a newly added application to immediately show up in the app launcher. Sometimes a logout/in or reboot may be required.
Look, if you are using any application launcher--there are several--other than the default for Plasma, say so and which one. Also, please differentiate between "recently added" and recently used."

I don't expect either to see an added application to show up in the Recent Application sub-menu.

But I do expect to see an used application to show up in the Recent Application sub-menu.
I fear I've been really unclear in the OP.
With "Recent Application" I mean that submenu labelled as "Recent Application" where a number of newly used applications show up.

Screenshot of what a Recent Application is in my KDE under Arch Linux

NoSavvy · 2018-05-17 08:21:07

You are not alone. I see the same problem although it doesn't bother me.
I think you need to backup and the delete the menu files. I did do this to some "random" files in ~/.config and reloaded and it has worked. Don't ask which ones though.

0BADC0DE · 2018-05-17 08:39:56

NoSavvy wrote:

You are not alone. I see the same problem although it doesn't bother me.
I think you need to backup and the delete the menu files. I did do this to some "random" files in ~/.config and reloaded and it has worked. Don't ask which ones though.

Thanks for your support.
That's not a real problem, as kate is working fine.
It's more an annoyance.
I don't use more than 10 programs and putting all of them in the task manager would bloat it: the recent applications submenu was instead rather useful.

Arch Linux

#1 2018-05-16 06:27:24

[KDE] Why kate doesn't show up in the "Recent applications" menu?

#2 2018-05-16 15:50:39

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#3 2018-05-16 16:05:05

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