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hello,
i had to move for work (new caledonia to france) and i just take my hard disk from my old computer. Once arrived to france, i find an old computer in my family and i put my disk in. At the begining, no problem, but i had progressively sata error and hard freeze during upgrade. I was at the point that i can't upgrade my computer without hard freeze and i had to repair my install everytime.
But i just figure today that my shitty old (but free) family computer doesn't support SSD trim and i was mounting my ssd with discard option. So i delete discard in my fstab and no more error, but i am a little bit worry to go on without TRIM. So i look to this page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/So … Drive#TRIM and if i understand i had to enable periodic trim. Am I right? is the documentation up to date for my situation? I sorry for this question but i am a little paranoic when it come to data.
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So i try a manual trim with fstrim -v / and i get freeze and sata error about data management (link reset, the computer freeze and go on after). But after 3 errors, fstrim finish the job.
It seems to be very insecure. So where is the problem? is there some sata controller that doesn t support trim at all? or is it a sign from a dying SSD ? What are the consequences of never triming an SSD?
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If your system does not support TRIM then you don't do TRIM, it's that simple. For a modern SSD in desktop use, it's probably fine to not use TRIM.
Do you have any specs? Output of lshw or similar?
Specific error messages, dmesg?
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lshw
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description: Ordinateur de Bureau
produit: G5455frm (A0N86EA#ABF)
fabriquant: Hewlett-Packard
version: Chassis Version
numéro de série: CZC1278K53
bits: 4294967295 bits
fonctionnalités: smbios-2.5 dmi-2.5 smp vsyscall32
configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop family=103C_53316J G=D sku=A0N86EA#ABF uuid=80F0CD84-9517-1710-8CC6-81691DEC7954
*-core
description: Carte mère
produit: 2A99
fabriquant: PEGATRON CORPORATION
identifiant matériel: 0
version: 6.01
numéro de série: 109363390000589
*-firmware
description: BIOS
fabriquant: American Megatrends Inc.
identifiant matériel: 0
version: 6.18
date: 06/15/2011
taille: 64KiB
capacité: 960KiB
fonctionnalités: isa pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification
*-cpu
description: CPU
produit: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 260 Processor
fabriquant: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
identifiant matériel: 3
information bus: cpu@0
version: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 260 Processor
emplacement: CPU 1
taille: 3200MHz
capacité: 3200MHz
bits: 64 bits
horloge: 200MHz
fonctionnalités: x86-64 fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt hw_pstate vmmcall npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save cpufreq
configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=2
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
identifiant matériel: 5
emplacement: L1-Cache
taille: 256KiB
capacité: 256KiB
fonctionnalités: pipeline-burst internal varies
configuration: level=1
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
identifiant matériel: 6
emplacement: L2-Cache
taille: 2MiB
capacité: 2MiB
fonctionnalités: pipeline-burst internal varies
configuration: level=2
*-memory:0
description: Mémoire Système
identifiant matériel: f
emplacement: Carte mère
taille: 4GiB
*-bank:0
description: Project-Id-Version: @(#) $Id: fr.po 2151 2010-03-15 20:26:20Z lyonel $Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: POT-Creation-Date: 2009-10-08 14:02+0200PO-Revision-Date: 2009-10-08 14:06+0100Last-Translator: Lyonel Vincent <lyonel@ezix.org>Language-Team: MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bitProject-Id-Version: @(#) $Id: fr.po 2151 2010-03-15 20:26:20Z lyonel $Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: POT-Creation-Date: 2009-10-08 14:02+0200PO-Revision-Date: 2009-10-08 14:06+0100Last-Translator: Lyonel Vincent <lyonel@ezix.org>Language-Team: MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit [vide]
identifiant matériel: 0
numéro de série: SerNum0
emplacement: DIMM0
*-bank:1
description: DIMM DDR3 Synchrone 1333 MHz (0,8 ns)
produit: M378B5273DH0-CH9
fabriquant: Samsung
identifiant matériel: 1
numéro de série: SerNum1
emplacement: DIMM1
taille: 4GiB
bits: 64 bits
horloge: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
*-memory:1 NON-RÉCLAMÉ
description: RAM memory
produit: MCP61 Memory Controller
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: 4
information bus: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: a1
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 66MHz (15.2ns)
fonctionnalités: ht bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
produit: MCP61 LPC Bridge
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: 1
information bus: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: a2
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 66MHz
fonctionnalités: isa bus_master
configuration: latency=0
ressources: portE/S:4f00(taille=256)
*-serial
description: SMBus
produit: MCP61 SMBus
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: 1.1
information bus: pci@0000:00:01.1
version: a2
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 66MHz
fonctionnalités: pm cap_list
configuration: driver=nForce2_smbus latency=0
ressources: irq:11 portE/S:4900(taille=64) portE/S:4d00(taille=64) portE/S:4e00(taille=64)
*-memory:2 NON-RÉCLAMÉ
description: RAM memory
produit: MCP61 Memory Controller
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: 1.2
information bus: pci@0000:00:01.2
version: a2
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 66MHz (15.2ns)
configuration: latency=0
*-usb:0
description: USB controller
produit: MCP61 USB 1.1 Controller
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: 2
information bus: pci@0000:00:02.0
version: a3
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 66MHz
fonctionnalités: pm ohci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci-pci latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3
ressources: irq:23 mémoire:fbeff000-fbefffff
*-usbhost
produit: OHCI PCI host controller
fabriquant: Linux 4.16.9-1-ARCH ohci_hcd
identifiant matériel: 1
information bus: usb@2
nom logique: usb2
version: 4.16
fonctionnalités: usb-1.10
configuration: driver=hub slots=10 speed=12Mbit/s
*-usb:0
description: Souris
produit: ROCCAT Kone Pure
fabriquant: ROCCAT
identifiant matériel: 3
information bus: usb@2:3
version: 1.01
fonctionnalités: usb-2.00
configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=200mA speed=12Mbit/s
*-usb:1
description: Clavier
produit: USB Keyboard
fabriquant: NOVATEK
identifiant matériel: 4
information bus: usb@2:4
version: 1.04
fonctionnalités: usb-1.10
configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA speed=1Mbit/s
*-usb:1
description: USB controller
produit: MCP61 USB 2.0 Controller
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: 2.1
information bus: pci@0000:00:02.1
version: a3
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 66MHz
fonctionnalités: debug pm ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3
ressources: irq:22 mémoire:fbefec00-fbefecff
*-usbhost
produit: EHCI Host Controller
fabriquant: Linux 4.16.9-1-ARCH ehci_hcd
identifiant matériel: 1
information bus: usb@1
nom logique: usb1
version: 4.16
fonctionnalités: usb-2.00
configuration: driver=hub slots=10 speed=480Mbit/s
*-usb:0
description: Interface réseau sans fil
produit: SAMSUNG_Android
fabriquant: SAMSUNG
identifiant matériel: 2
information bus: usb@1:2
version: 2.26
numéro de série: 3204cc9dcca5a1d9
fonctionnalités: usb-2.00
configuration: driver=rndis_host maxpower=96mA speed=480Mbit/s
*-usb:1
description: Périphérique de stockage de masse
produit: Mass Storage Device
fabriquant: Generic
identifiant matériel: 8
information bus: usb@1:8
nom logique: scsi4
version: 1.00
numéro de série: 058F63666471
fonctionnalités: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
configuration: driver=usb-storage maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s
*-disk
description: SCSI Disk
produit: Flash Reader
fabriquant: Multi
identifiant matériel: 0.0.0
information bus: scsi@4:0.0.0
nom logique: /dev/sdd
version: 1.00
fonctionnalités: removable
configuration: logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512
*-medium
identifiant matériel: 0
nom logique: /dev/sdd
*-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
produit: MCP61 PCI bridge
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: 100
information bus: pci@0000:00:04.0
version: a1
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 66MHz
fonctionnalités: pci ht subtractive_decode bus_master cap_list
*-multimedia
description: Audio device
produit: MCP61 High Definition Audio
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: 5
information bus: pci@0000:00:05.0
version: a2
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 66MHz
fonctionnalités: pm msi ht bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0 maxlatency=5 mingnt=2
ressources: irq:22 mémoire:fbef8000-fbefbfff
*-bridge
description: Ethernet interface
produit: MCP61 Ethernet
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: 7
information bus: pci@0000:00:07.0
nom logique: eth0
version: a2
numéro de série: e0:69:95:70:1a:ac
capacité: 100000000
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 66MHz
fonctionnalités: bridge pm msi ht bus_master cap_list ethernet physical mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=forcedeth driverversion=0.64 latency=0 link=no maxlatency=20 mingnt=1 multicast=yes port=MII
ressources: irq:26 mémoire:fbefd000-fbefdfff portE/S:d480(taille=8)
*-ide:0
description: IDE interface
produit: MCP61 SATA Controller
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: 8
information bus: pci@0000:00:08.0
version: a2
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 66MHz
fonctionnalités: ide pm msi ht bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=sata_nv latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3
ressources: irq:21 portE/S:d400(taille=8) portE/S:d080(taille=4) portE/S:d000(taille=8) portE/S:cc00(taille=4) portE/S:c880(taille=16) mémoire:fbefc000-fbefcfff
*-ide:1
description: IDE interface
produit: MCP61 SATA Controller
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: 8.1
information bus: pci@0000:00:08.1
version: a2
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 66MHz
fonctionnalités: ide pm msi ht bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=sata_nv latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3
ressources: irq:20 portE/S:c800(taille=8) portE/S:c480(taille=4) portE/S:c400(taille=8) portE/S:c080(taille=4) portE/S:c000(taille=16) mémoire:fbef3000-fbef3fff
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
produit: MCP61 PCI Express bridge
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: 9
information bus: pci@0000:00:09.0
version: a2
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 33MHz
fonctionnalités: pci pm msi ht pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
ressources: irq:0 portE/S:e000(taille=4096) mémoire:fbf00000-fbffffff portE/S:e0000000(taille=268435456)
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
produit: Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM]
fabriquant: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
identifiant matériel: 0
information bus: pci@0000:02:00.0
version: 00
bits: 64 bits
horloge: 33MHz
fonctionnalités: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
ressources: irq:25 mémoire:e0000000-efffffff mémoire:fbfe0000-fbffffff portE/S:e000(taille=256) mémoire:c0000-dffff
*-multimedia
description: Audio device
produit: Caicos HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6450 / 7450/8450/8490 OEM / R5 230/235/235X OEM]
fabriquant: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
identifiant matériel: 0.1
information bus: pci@0000:02:00.1
version: 00
bits: 64 bits
horloge: 33MHz
fonctionnalités: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
ressources: irq:24 mémoire:fbfbc000-fbfbffff
*-pci:2
description: PCI bridge
produit: MCP61 PCI Express bridge
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: b
information bus: pci@0000:00:0b.0
version: a2
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 33MHz
fonctionnalités: pci pm msi ht pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
ressources: irq:0
*-pci:3
description: PCI bridge
produit: MCP61 PCI Express bridge
fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
identifiant matériel: c
information bus: pci@0000:00:0c.0
version: a2
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 33MHz
fonctionnalités: pci pm msi ht pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
ressources: irq:0
*-pci:4
description: Host bridge
produit: Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration
fabriquant: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
identifiant matériel: 101
information bus: pci@0000:00:18.0
version: 00
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 33MHz
*-pci:5
description: Host bridge
produit: Family 10h Processor Address Map
fabriquant: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
identifiant matériel: 102
information bus: pci@0000:00:18.1
version: 00
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 33MHz
*-pci:6
description: Host bridge
produit: Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller
fabriquant: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
identifiant matériel: 103
information bus: pci@0000:00:18.2
version: 00
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 33MHz
*-pci:7
description: Host bridge
produit: Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control
fabriquant: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
identifiant matériel: 104
information bus: pci@0000:00:18.3
version: 00
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 33MHz
configuration: driver=k10temp
ressources: irq:0
*-pci:8
description: Host bridge
produit: Family 10h Processor Link Control
fabriquant: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
identifiant matériel: 105
information bus: pci@0000:00:18.4
version: 00
bits: 32 bits
horloge: 33MHz
*-scsi:0
identifiant matériel: 6
nom logique: scsi0
fonctionnalités: emulated
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
produit: Corsair Force 3
identifiant matériel: 0.0.0
information bus: scsi@0:0.0.0
nom logique: /dev/sda
version: 5.02
numéro de série: 12306501000013400026
taille: 55GiB (60GB)
fonctionnalités: gpt-1.00 partitioned partitioned:gpt
configuration: ansiversion=5 guid=95e945c9-d3cf-4df0-8a0d-ee2d4b6dbe5e logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512
*-volume:0
description: data partition
fabriquant: Linux
identifiant matériel: 1
information bus: scsi@0:0.0.0,1
nom logique: /dev/sda1
nom logique: /boot
version: 1.0
numéro de série: b6515aa7-7420-462d-9a72-6980c6f3e24e
taille: 147MiB
capacité: 147MiB
fonctionnalités: extended_attributes ext2 initialized
configuration: filesystem=ext2 lastmountpoint=/boot modified=2018-05-23 13:17:44 mount.fstype=ext2 mount.options=rw,relatime,block_validity,barrier,user_xattr,acl mounted=2018-05-23 13:17:44 state=mounted
*-volume:1
description: EXT4 volume
fabriquant: Linux
identifiant matériel: 2
information bus: scsi@0:0.0.0,2
nom logique: /dev/sda2
nom logique: /
version: 1.0
numéro de série: 5f0f2499-51c8-4aa1-9bbc-8aea1f73a6ab
taille: 19GiB
fonctionnalités: journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized
configuration: created=2012-09-18 07:21:53 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/ modified=2018-05-23 13:17:43 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,noatime,data=ordered mounted=2018-05-23 13:17:43 state=mounted
*-volume:2
description: EXT4 volume
fabriquant: Linux
identifiant matériel: 3
information bus: scsi@0:0.0.0,3
nom logique: /dev/sda3
nom logique: /home
version: 1.0
numéro de série: 24ddf68f-605c-4fbb-b3ec-5eaec6f19bc2
taille: 36GiB
fonctionnalités: journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized
configuration: created=2012-09-18 07:22:01 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/home modified=2018-05-23 13:17:44 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,noatime,data=ordered mounted=2018-05-23 13:17:44 state=mounted
*-volume:3
description: BIOS Boot partition
fabriquant: EFI
identifiant matériel: 4
information bus: scsi@0:0.0.0,4
nom logique: /dev/sda4
numéro de série: 2874a4b0-e919-4bc8-b92b-7d6b221ed2f9
capacité: 2047KiB
fonctionnalités: nofs
*-scsi:1
identifiant matériel: a
nom logique: scsi1
fonctionnalités: emulated
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
produit: ST2000DL001-9VT1
fabriquant: Seagate
identifiant matériel: 0.0.0
information bus: scsi@1:0.0.0
nom logique: /dev/sdb
version: CC41
numéro de série: 5YD36KLB
taille: 1863GiB (2TB)
fonctionnalités: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=4096 signature=000b5fcc
*-volume
description: EXT4 volume
fabriquant: Linux
identifiant matériel: 1
information bus: scsi@1:0.0.0,1
nom logique: /dev/sdb1
nom logique: /home/data
version: 1.0
numéro de série: cab73b49-564e-4773-b9fa-1968e3e7ac1a
taille: 1863GiB
capacité: 1863GiB
fonctionnalités: primary journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized
configuration: created=2012-02-18 04:16:31 filesystem=ext4 label=diplodocus lastmountpoint=/home/data modified=2018-05-23 13:17:44 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,data=ordered mounted=2018-05-23 13:17:44 state=mounted
*-scsi:2
identifiant matériel: d
nom logique: scsi2
fonctionnalités: emulated
*-disk
description: EXT4 volume
produit: ST2000DM001-1ER1
fabriquant: Linux
identifiant matériel: 0.0.0
information bus: scsi@2:0.0.0
nom logique: /dev/sdc
nom logique: /home/data2
version: 1.0
numéro de série: 015112b3-82dc-4462-9f31-ad1f51fcc42b
taille: 1863GiB
fonctionnalités: journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized
configuration: ansiversion=5 created=2016-05-27 06:51:54 filesystem=ext4 label=Bebe lastmountpoint=/home/data2 logicalsectorsize=512 modified=2018-05-23 13:17:44 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,data=ordered mounted=2018-05-23 13:17:44 sectorsize=4096 state=mounted
*-scsi:3
identifiant matériel: e
nom logique: scsi3
fonctionnalités: emulated
*-cdrom
description: DVD-RAM writer
produit: DVD A DH16ABLH
fabriquant: hp
identifiant matériel: 0.0.0
information bus: scsi@3:0.0.0
nom logique: /dev/cdrom
nom logique: /dev/sr0
version: 3HD9
fonctionnalités: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
*-power NON-RÉCLAMÉ
description: N/A
produit: Standard Efficiency
fabriquant: N/A
identifiant matériel: 1
version: 2.30
numéro de série: N/A
capacité: 32768mWh
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
identifiant matériel: 2
nom logique: usb0
numéro de série: 72:b0:be:65:9d:b5
fonctionnalités: ethernet physical
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rndis_host driverversion=22-Aug-2005 firmware=RNDIS device ip=192.168.42.206 link=yes multicast=yes
I try to reproduce the error with another fstrim but nothing.... hum i think all this is hardware. A 2011 computer with 2012 disk... I think it s time to invest some money.... So sad that arch doesn't force you to change hardware like windows.
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So i just had another error moving some files from my ssd. So apparently Trim isn't the error, it just trigger it. Maybe someboby had an idea ?? ata1 is my ssd for sure.
[47535.625662] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x39d0000 action 0xe frozen
[47535.625668] ata1: SError: { PHYRdyChg CommWake 10B8B Dispar LinkSeq TrStaTrns UnrecFIS }
[47535.625670] ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT
[47535.625674] ata1.00: cmd 25/00:00:00:18:dd/00:08:04:00:00/e0 tag 0 dma 1048576 in
res 40/00:00:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x14 (ATA bus error)
[47535.625676] ata1.00: status: { DRDY }
[47535.625680] ata1: hard resetting link
[47535.625682] ata1: nv: skipping hardreset on occupied port
[47536.522366] ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
[47536.566188] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
[47536.566239] ata1: EH complete
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If the drive does not properly support TRIM this can happen https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/ke … a6ee7a8f6c
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