[SOLVED] Too many packages, what do I not need?

riddle00 · 2018-07-04 13:10:45

Hey, I've found this thread, and it seems that Arch users definitely do not exceed 1000 packages. However, there is 1206 packages in my system. I use my laptop as a usual desktop computer. However, such number of packages seem to much for me. If I try to delete anything, there seems to be dependencies with the apps I actually use, e.g. vlc, firefox, etc.

If I cherrypick more unused packages (what I am doing right now), I will still be above 1K package count. Looking for help with what might be taking so much or the assurance that it is normal to have 1,2K packages in a desktop computer.

The ouput of

sudo pacman -Qe

     1	acestream-launcher 1.1.1-1
     2	adobe-source-code-pro-fonts 2.030ro+1.050it-4
     3	alsa-utils 1.1.6-1
     4	alsi 0.4.7-1
     5	arduino 1:1.8.5-1
     6	autoconf 2.69-4
     7	automake 1.15.1-1
     8	autopep8 1:1.3.5-1
     9	bash 4.4.023-1
    10	bind-tools 9.13.0-2
    11	binutils 2.30-5
    12	bzip2 1.0.6-7
    13	calibre 3.26.1-1
    14	conky 1.10.8-2
    15	copyq 3.3.0-3
    16	coreutils 8.29-1
    17	cryptsetup 2.0.3-2
    18	ctags 5.8-6
    19	deluge 1.3.15+14+gb8e5ebe82-1
    20	device-mapper 2.02.177-5
    21	dhcpcd 7.0.4-1
    22	dia 0.97.3-4
    23	dialog 1:1.3_20171209-1
    24	diffutils 3.6-1
    25	docker 1:18.05.0-2
    26	dosbox 0.74-8
    27	dosfstools 4.1-1
    28	downgrade 6.0.0-1
    29	dropbox 50.4.71-2
    30	dropbox-cli 2015.10.28-2
    31	e2fsprogs 1.44.2-1
    32	emacs 26.1-1
    33	espeak 1:1.48.04-1
    34	fakeroot 1.22-1
    35	feh 2.26.4-1
    36	file 5.33-3
    37	filesystem 2018.1-2
    38	filezilla 3.34.0-1
    39	findutils 4.6.0-2
    40	firefox 61.0-1
    41	flex 2.6.4-1
    42	freerdp 1:2.0.0_rc2-2
    43	gawk 4.2.1-1
    44	gcalcli 3.4.0-1
    45	gcc 8.1.1+20180531-1
    46	gcc-libs 8.1.1+20180531-1
    47	gcc7 7.3.1+20180406-2
    48	gdb 8.1-1
    49	gettext 0.19.8.1-2
    50	gimp 2.10.2-3
    51	git 2.18.0-1
    52	glibc 2.27-3
    53	gmrun 0.9.2-7
    54	google-chrome 67.0.3396.62-1
    55	gparted 0.31.0-1
    56	gradle 4.8-1
    57	grep 3.1-1
    58	groff 1.22.3-7
    59	grub 2:2.02-7
    60	grub-customizer 5.0.6-7
    61	grub2-theme-archlinux 1.0-4
    62	gvfs 1.36.2-2
    63	gzip 1.9-1
    64	htop 2.2.0-2
    65	httpie 0.9.9-1
    66	inetutils 1.9.4-5
    67	iproute2 4.17.0-1
    68	iputils 20161105.1f2bb12-2
    69	ipython 6.3.1-1
    70	irssi 1.1.1-1
    71	jdk8-openjdk 8.u172-2
    72	jfsutils 1.1.15-5
    73	jmtpfs 0.5-1
    74	keepass 2.39.1-2
    75	keepass-plugin-keeagent 0.10.1-1
    76	kpcli 3.2-2
    77	la-capitaine-icon-theme-git r423.69803ebe-1
    78	less 530-1
    79	lesspipe 1.83-2
    80	lftp 4.8.3-1
    81	lib32-nvidia-utils 396.24-2
    82	libreoffice-fresh 6.0.5-1
    83	libtool 2.4.6+40+g6ca5e224-7
    84	licenses 20171006-1
    85	light 1.0-2
    86	linux 4.17.3-1
    87	logrotate 3.14.0-1
    88	lshw B.02.18-2
    89	lvm2 2.02.177-5
    90	lxappearance 0.6.3-1
    91	lxc 1:3.0.1-1
    92	lynx 2.8.8-5
    93	m4 1.4.18-1
    94	make 4.2.1-2
    95	man-db 2.8.3-1
    96	man-pages 4.16-1
    97	mc 4.8.21-1
    98	mdadm 4.0-1
    99	meld 3.19.0-1
   100	mirage 0.9.5.2-4
   101	mlocate 0.26.git.20170220-1
   102	moreutils 0.62-1
   103	mplayer 38101-1
   104	mutt 1.10.0-1
   105	nasm 2.13.03-1
   106	ncmpcpp 0.8.2-2
   107	ncurses5-compat-libs 6.1-1
   108	neovim 0.3.0-1
   109	net-tools 1.60.20180212git-1
   110	netctl 1.16-1
   111	newsboat 2.12-1
   112	nginx 1.14.0-1
   113	nmap 7.70-2
   114	ntfs-3g 2017.3.23-1
   115	ntp 4.2.8.p11-2
   116	nvidia 396.24-13
   117	nvidia-settings 396.24-1
   118	openbox 3.6.1-4
   119	openssh 7.7p1-2
   120	os-prober 1.76-1
   121	p7zip 16.02-5
   122	pacgraph 20110629-4
   123	package-query 1.9-3
   124	pacman 5.1.0-2
   125	patch 2.7.6-1
   126	pavucontrol 1:3.0+23+g335c26c-1
   127	pciutils 3.5.6-1
   128	pcmciautils 018-8
   129	perl 5.26.2-1
   130	pkgconf 1.5.1-1
   131	postgresql 10.4-3
   132	procps-ng 3.3.15-1
   133	psmisc 23.1-1
   134	pulseaudio 12.0-1
   135	pulseaudio-alsa 2-4
   136	pygmentize 2.2.0-1
   137	python-pip 10.0.1-1
   138	python-psycopg2 2.7.5-1
   139	python-pygame 1.9.3-2
   140	qalculate-gtk 2.6.0-1
   141	ranger 1.9.1-1
   142	razercfg 0.39-1
   143	rdesktop 1.8.3-3
   144	redshift 1.12-1
   145	reiserfsprogs 3.6.27-1
   146	rxvt-unicode 9.22-6
   147	s-nail 14.9.10-1
   148	samba 4.8.3-1
   149	sc 7.16-7
   150	scrot 0.8.18-1
   151	sed 4.5-1
   152	shadow 4.5-4
   153	smartgit 18.1.2-1
   154	splint 3.1.2.git20180129-1
   155	sshpass 1.06-1
   156	steamcmd latest-2
   157	stopwatch 3.5-7
   158	strace 4.23-1
   159	strongswan 5.6.3-1
   160	sublime-text 3176-1
   161	sudo 1.8.23-2
   162	sysfsutils 2.1.0-10
   163	systemd-sysvcompat 238.133-4
   164	tar 1.30-1
   165	teamviewer 13.1.3026-9
   166	terminator 1.91-6
   167	texinfo 6.5-1
   168	thunar 1.8.1.11.gf5147445-1
   169	thunar-volman 0.8.1-2
   170	thunderbird 52.8.0-1
   171	tig 2.3.3-1
   172	tint2 16.4-1
   173	tk 8.6.8-3
   174	tmux 2.7-1
   175	tree 1.7.0-2
   176	ttf-dejavu 2.37-2
   177	ttf-liberation 2.00.1-7
   178	tumbler 0.2.1-2
   179	unrar 1:5.6.5-1
   180	unzip 6.0-12
   181	usbutils 010-1
   182	util-linux 2.32-3
   183	vagrant 2.1.2-1
   184	valgrind 3.13.0-7
   185	vi 1:070224-3
   186	vifm 0.9.1-1
   187	vim 8.1.0022-1
   188	vim-clang-format-git 1-1
   189	virtualbox 5.2.14-1
   190	vlc 3.0.3-1
   191	wget 1.19.5-1
   192	which 2.21-2
   193	wmctrl 1.07-5
   194	wpa_supplicant 1:2.6-11
   195	xclip 0.13-1
   196	xdotool 3.20160805.1-1
   197	xf86-input-synaptics 1.9.1-1
   198	xf86-video-intel 1:2.99.917+831+ge7bfc906-1
   199	xf86-video-nouveau 1.0.15-3
   200	xf86-video-vesa 2.4.0-2
   201	xfsprogs 4.16.1-1
   202	xorg-bdftopcf 1.1-1
   203	xorg-docs 1.7.1-2
   204	xorg-font-util 1.3.1-2
   205	xorg-fonts-100dpi 1.0.3-3
   206	xorg-fonts-75dpi 1.0.3-3
   207	xorg-fonts-encodings 1.0.4-5
   208	xorg-iceauth 1.0.8-1
   209	xorg-luit 1.1.1-3
   210	xorg-mkfontdir 1.0.7-8
   211	xorg-mkfontscale 1.1.3-1
   212	xorg-server 1.20.0-9
   213	xorg-server-common 1.20.0-9
   214	xorg-server-devel 1.20.0-9
   215	xorg-server-xdmx 1.20.0-9
   216	xorg-server-xephyr 1.20.0-9
   217	xorg-server-xnest 1.20.0-9
   218	xorg-server-xvfb 1.20.0-9
   219	xorg-server-xwayland 1.20.0-9
   220	xorg-sessreg 1.1.1-1
   221	xorg-setxkbmap 1.3.1-2
   222	xorg-smproxy 1.0.6-2
   223	xorg-x11perf 1.6.0-2
   224	xorg-xbacklight 1.2.2-1
   225	xorg-xcmsdb 1.0.5-2
   226	xorg-xcursorgen 1.0.6-2
   227	xorg-xdriinfo 1.0.6-1
   228	xorg-xev 1.2.2-2
   229	xorg-xgamma 1.0.6-2
   230	xorg-xhost 1.0.7-2
   231	xorg-xinit 1.4.0-3
   232	xorg-xinput 1.6.2-2
   233	xorg-xkbcomp 1.4.2-1
   234	xorg-xkbevd 1.1.4-2
   235	xorg-xkbutils 1.0.4-3
   236	xorg-xkill 1.0.5-1
   237	xorg-xlsatoms 1.1.2-2
   238	xorg-xlsclients 1.1.4-1
   239	xorg-xpr 1.0.5-1
   240	xorg-xrandr 1.5.0-1
   241	xorg-xrefresh 1.0.6-1
   242	xorg-xset 1.2.4-1
   243	xorg-xsetroot 1.1.2-1
   244	xorg-xvinfo 1.1.3-2
   245	xorg-xwd 1.0.7-1
   246	xorg-xwininfo 1.1.4-1
   247	xorg-xwud 1.0.5-1
   248	xscreensaver-arch-logo 5.39-1
   249	xsel 1.2.0.20160929-1
   250	xterm 333-1
   251	yajl 2.1.0-2
   252	yaourt 1.9-1
   253	yasm 1.3.0-2
   254	zip 3.0-8
   255	zsh 5.5.1-1

The ouput of

sudo pacman -Q

     1	a52dec 0.7.4-9
     2	aalib 1.4rc5-12
     3	acestream-engine 3.1.16-7
     4	acestream-launcher 1.1.1-1
     5	acl 2.2.53-1
     6	adobe-source-code-pro-fonts 2.030ro+1.050it-4
     7	adwaita-icon-theme 3.28.0-1
     8	alsa-lib 1.1.6-1
     9	alsa-plugins 1.1.6-2
    10	alsa-utils 1.1.6-1
    11	alsi 0.4.7-1
    12	aom 1.0.0-1
    13	apr 1.6.3-1
    14	archlinux-keyring 20180627-1
    15	arduino 1:1.8.5-1
    16	arduino-builder 1.3.25-3
    17	arduino-ctags 5.8_arduino11-2
    18	argon2 20171227-3
    19	aspell 0.60.6.1-5
    20	at-spi2-atk 2.26.2-1
    21	at-spi2-core 2.28.0-1
    22	atk 2.28.1-1
    23	atkmm 2.24.2+1+gf30b47f-2
    24	attr 2.4.48-1
    25	autoconf 2.69-4
    26	automake 1.15.1-1
    27	autopep8 1:1.3.5-1
    28	avahi 0.7+4+gd8d8c67-1
    29	babl 0.1.50+5+g7af0e8c-1
    30	bash 4.4.023-1
    31	bc 1.07.1-1
    32	bind-tools 9.13.0-2
    33	binutils 2.30-5
    34	blas 3.8.0-2
    35	bluez 5.50-3
    36	bluez-libs 5.50-3
    37	boost-libs 1.67.0-4
    38	bridge-utils 1.6-2
    39	brotli 1.0.4-1
    40	btrfs-progs 4.16.1-2
    41	bubblewrap 0.2.1-1
    42	bullet 2.87-1
    43	bzip2 1.0.6-7
    44	c-ares 1.14.0-1
    45	ca-certificates 20170307-1
    46	ca-certificates-cacert 20140824-4
    47	ca-certificates-mozilla 3.38-1
    48	ca-certificates-utils 20170307-1
    49	cabextract 1.6-3
    50	cairo 1.15.12-1
    51	cairomm 1.12.2-2
    52	calibre 3.26.1-1
    53	cantarell-fonts 1:0.101-1
    54	cblas 3.8.0-2
    55	cdparanoia 10.2-7
    56	celt 0.11.3-3
    57	cgmanager 0.41-2
    58	chmlib 0.40-5
    59	chromaprint 1.4.3-2
    60	cifs-utils 6.8-2
    61	clang 6.0.0-1
    62	cln 1.3.4-3
    63	clucene 2.3.3.4-10
    64	clutter 1.26.2-1
    65	cmake 3.11.4-1
    66	cogl 1.22.2+10+g3baa2d7a-1
    67	colord 1.4.3-1
    68	compiler-rt 6.0.0-1
    69	confuse 3.2.1-1
    70	conky 1.10.8-2
    71	copyq 3.3.0-3
    72	coreutils 8.29-1
    73	cracklib 2.9.6-1
    74	cryptsetup 2.0.3-2
    75	ctags 5.8-6
    76	curl 7.60.0-1
    77	db 5.3.28-4
    78	dbus 1.12.8-1
    79	dbus-glib 0.110-1
    80	dcadec 0.2.0-1
    81	dconf 0.28.0-1
    82	deluge 1.3.15+14+gb8e5ebe82-1
    83	desktop-file-utils 0.23+4+g92af410-1
    84	device-mapper 2.02.177-5
    85	dhcpcd 7.0.4-1
    86	dia 0.97.3-4
    87	dialog 1:1.3_20171209-1
    88	diffutils 3.6-1
    89	dkms 2.5-3
    90	dmraid 1.0.0.rc16.3-11
    91	dnssec-anchors 20170711-1
    92	docker 1:18.05.0-2
    93	dosbox 0.74-8
    94	dosfstools 4.1-1
    95	double-conversion 3.0.0-1
    96	downgrade 6.0.0-1
    97	doxygen 1.8.14-1
    98	dropbox 50.4.71-2
    99	dropbox-cli 2015.10.28-2
   100	e2fsprogs 1.44.2-1
   101	egl-wayland 1.0.4-1
   102	eglexternalplatform 1.0+2+ge3b182e-1
   103	emacs 26.1-1
   104	enca 1.19-2
   105	enchant 2.2.3-1
   106	espeak 1:1.48.04-1
   107	ethtool 1:4.17-1
   108	exiv2 0.26-2
   109	exo 0.12.2-1
   110	expat 2.2.5-1
   111	faac 1.29.9.2-1
   112	faad2 2.8.8-1
   113	fakeroot 1.22-1
   114	farstream 0.2.8-1
   115	feh 2.26.4-1
   116	ffmpeg 1:4.0.1-2
   117	fftw 3.3.8-1
   118	file 5.33-3
   119	filesystem 2018.1-2
   120	filezilla 3.34.0-1
   121	findutils 4.6.0-2
   122	firefox 61.0-1
   123	flac 1.3.2-1
   124	flex 2.6.4-1
   125	fontconfig 2.13.0+10+g58f5285-1
   126	freeglut 3.0.0-2
   127	freerdp 1:2.0.0_rc2-2
   128	freetype2 2.9.1-1
   129	fribidi 1.0.4-1
   130	fuse-common 3.2.3-1
   131	fuse2 2.9.7-4
   132	gamin 0.1.10-9
   133	gawk 4.2.1-1
   134	gc 7.6.6-1
   135	gcalcli 3.4.0-1
   136	gcc 8.1.1+20180531-1
   137	gcc-ada 8.1.1+20180531-1
   138	gcc-libs 8.1.1+20180531-1
   139	gcc54 5.4.1-1
   140	gcc6 6.4.1-5
   141	gcc6-libs 6.4.1-5
   142	gcc7 7.3.1+20180406-2
   143	gcc7-libs 7.3.1+20180406-2
   144	gconf 3.2.6+11+g07808097-3
   145	gcr 3.28.0-3
   146	gd 2.2.5-1
   147	gdb 8.1-1
   148	gdb-common 8.1-1
   149	gdbm 1.14.1-1
   150	gdk-pixbuf2 2.36.12-1
   151	gegl 0.4.2+14+g190a81b4a-1
   152	gegl02 0.2.0-9
   153	gendesk 0.7-2
   154	geoclue2 2.4.7-1
   155	geocode-glib 3.26.0-1
   156	geoip 1.6.11-1
   157	geoip-database 20180403-1
   158	gettext 0.19.8.1-2
   159	giblib 1.2.4-7
   160	giflib 5.1.4-1
   161	gimp 2.10.2-3
   162	git 2.18.0-1
   163	gjs 1:1.52.3-1
   164	gksu 2.0.2-6
   165	glew 2.1.0-1
   166	glib-networking 2.56.1-1
   167	glib2 2.56.1-1
   168	glibc 2.27-3
   169	glibmm 2.56.0-1
   170	glu 9.0.0-5
   171	gmp 6.1.2-1
   172	gmrun 0.9.2-7
   173	gnu-netcat 0.7.1-6
   174	gnupg 2.2.8-1
   175	gnutls 3.5.18-1
   176	gobject-introspection 1.56.1-1
   177	gobject-introspection-runtime 1.56.1-1
   178	google-chrome 67.0.3396.62-1
   179	gparted 0.31.0-1
   180	gperf 3.1-1
   181	gpgme 1.11.1-1
   182	gpm 1.20.7-8
   183	gptfdisk 1.0.3-1
   184	gradle 4.8-1
   185	graphene 1.8.2-1
   186	graphite 1:1.3.11-1
   187	grep 3.1-1
   188	groff 1.22.3-7
   189	grub 2:2.02-7
   190	grub-customizer 5.0.6-7
   191	grub2-theme-archlinux 1.0-4
   192	gsettings-desktop-schemas 3.28.0+1+g85521dc-1
   193	gsfonts 20170829-1
   194	gsm 1.0.18-1
   195	gst-plugins-bad 1.14.1-2
   196	gst-plugins-base 1.14.1-1
   197	gst-plugins-base-libs 1.14.1-1
   198	gst-plugins-good 1.14.1-1
   199	gstreamer 1.14.1-1
   200	gtk-update-icon-cache 3.22.30-1
   201	gtk2 2.24.32-1
   202	gtk3 3.22.30-1
   203	gtkmm 2.24.5-2
   204	gtkmm3 3.22.2+2+g3002ed86-1
   205	gtksourceview2 2.10.5-4
   206	gtksourceview3 3.24.8-1
   207	gtkspell 2.0.16-7
   208	guile 2.2.4-1
   209	guile2.0 2.0.14-1
   210	gvfs 1.36.2-2
   211	gzip 1.9-1
   212	harfbuzz 1.8.2-1
   213	harfbuzz-icu 1.8.2-1
   214	help2man 1.47.6-1
   215	hicolor-icon-theme 0.17-1
   216	hiera 3.4.2-2
   217	hspell 1.4-1
   218	htop 2.2.0-2
   219	http-parser 2.8.1-1
   220	httpie 0.9.9-1
   221	hunspell 1.6.2-1
   222	hunspell-en_US 2017.01.22-2
   223	hwids 20180518-1
   224	hyphen 2.8.8-2
   225	iana-etc 20180221-1
   226	icoutils 0.32.3-1
   227	icu 61.1-1
   228	idnkit 1.0-4
   229	ilmbase 2.2.1-4
   230	imagemagick 7.0.8.3-1
   231	imake 1.0.7-2
   232	imlib2 1.5.1-1
   233	inetutils 1.9.4-5
   234	iniparser 4.1-1
   235	intel-tbb 2018_20180312-1
   236	intltool 0.51.0-3
   237	iproute2 4.17.0-1
   238	iptables 1.6.2-2
   239	iputils 20161105.1f2bb12-2
   240	ipython 6.3.1-1
   241	irssi 1.1.1-1
   242	iso-codes 3.76-1
   243	jack 0.125.0-3
   244	jansson 2.10-3
   245	jasper 2.0.14-1
   246	java-environment-common 3-1
   247	java-runtime-common 3-1
   248	jdk7-openjdk 7.u171_2.6.13-1
   249	jdk8-openjdk 8.u172-2
   250	jemalloc 1:5.1.0-1
   251	jfsutils 1.1.15-5
   252	jmtpfs 0.5-1
   253	jre7-openjdk 7.u171_2.6.13-1
   254	jre7-openjdk-headless 7.u171_2.6.13-1
   255	jre8-openjdk 8.u172-2
   256	jre8-openjdk-headless 8.u172-2
   257	js52 52.9.0-1
   258	json-c 0.13.1-1
   259	json-glib 1.4.2-2
   260	jsoncpp 1.8.4-2
   261	kbd 2.0.4-1
   262	keepass 2.39.1-2
   263	keepass-plugin-keeagent 0.10.1-1
   264	keyutils 1.5.10-2
   265	kmod 25-1
   266	kpcli 3.2-2
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   786	python-cairo 1.17.0-1
   787	python-cffi 1.11.5-1
   788	python-chardet 3.0.4-1
   789	python-colorama 0.3.9-1
   790	python-crypto 2.6.1-5
   791	python-cryptography 2.2.2-1
   792	python-dateutil 2.7.3-1
   793	python-dbus 1.2.8-1
   794	python-dbus-common 1.2.8-1
   795	python-decorator 4.3.0-1
   796	python-distlib 0.2.7-1
   797	python-distro 1.3.0-1
   798	python-dnspython 1.15.0-2
   799	python-ecdsa 0.13-3
   800	python-entrypoints 0.2.3-1
   801	python-gobject 3.28.3-1
   802	python-html5lib 1.0.1-2
   803	python-idna 2.7-2
   804	python-ipykernel 4.6.1-1
   805	python-jedi 0.12.1-1
   806	python-jinja 2.10-1
   807	python-jsonrpclib-pelix 0.3.1-2
   808	python-jsonschema 2.6.0-2
   809	python-jupyter_client 5.2.2-1
   810	python-jupyter_core 4.4.0-2
   811	python-lockfile 0.12.2-2
   812	python-mako 1.0.7-1
   813	python-markupsafe 1.0-1
   814	python-mistune 0.8.1-1
   815	python-msgpack 0.5.6-1
   816	python-olefile 0.45.1-1
   817	python-packaging 17.1-1
   818	python-pandocfilters 1.4.2-1
   819	python-paramiko 2.4.1-1
   820	python-parso 0.3.0-1
   821	python-pbkdf2 1.3-3
   822	python-pexpect 4.6.0-1
   823	python-pickleshare 0.7.4-3
   824	python-pillow 5.1.0-1
   825	python-pip 10.0.1-1
   826	python-ply 3.11-1
   827	python-progress 1.4-1
   828	python-prompt_toolkit 1.0.15-1
   829	python-protobuf 3.5.2-1
   830	python-psycopg2 2.7.5-1
   831	python-ptyprocess 0.5.2-1
   832	python-pyaes 1.6.1-1
   833	python-pyasn1 0.4.3-1
   834	python-pycodestyle 2.4.0-1
   835	python-pycparser 2.18-1
   836	python-pycryptodomex 3.6.3-1
   837	python-pygame 1.9.3-2
   838	python-pygments 2.2.0-1
   839	python-pyinotify 0.9.6-3
   840	python-pynacl 1.2.1-1
   841	python-pyparsing 2.2.0-1
   842	python-pyqt5 5.10.1-6
   843	python-pysocks 1.6.8-1
   844	python-pytoml 0.1.16-1
   845	python-pyzmq 17.0.0-1
   846	python-qrcode 6.0-1
   847	python-requests 2.19.1-1
   848	python-retrying 1.3.3-3
   849	python-send2trash 1.5.0-1
   850	python-setuptools 1:39.2.0-2
   851	python-sip 4.19.8-1
   852	python-six 1.11.0-1
   853	python-terminado 0.8.1-1
   854	python-testpath 0.3.1-1
   855	python-tornado 4.5.3-1
   856	python-traitlets 4.3.2-1
   857	python-urllib3 1.23-1
   858	python-wcwidth 0.1.7-2
   859	python-webencodings 0.5.1-1
   860	python-websocket-client 0.48.0-1
   861	python-xlib 0.23-1
   862	python-yaml 3.12-3
   863	python2 2.7.15-1
   864	python2-appdirs 1.4.3-1
   865	python2-apsw 3.23.1-1
   866	python2-asn1crypto 0.24.0-1
   867	python2-attrs 18.1.0-1
   868	python2-automat 0.7.0-1
   869	python2-bcrypt 3.1.4-1
   870	python2-cachetools 2.1.0-1
   871	python2-cairo 1.17.0-1
   872	python2-cffi 1.11.5-1
   873	python2-chardet 3.0.4-1
   874	python2-click 6.7-1
   875	python2-constantly 15.1.0-2
   876	python2-crypto 2.6.1-5
   877	python2-cryptography 2.2.2-1
   878	python2-cssselect 1.0.3-1
   879	python2-cssutils 1.0.2-1
   880	python2-dateutil 2.7.3-1
   881	python2-dbus 1.2.8-1
   882	python2-dnspython 1.15.0-2
   883	python2-dukpy 0.3-2
   884	python2-ecdsa 0.13-3
   885	python2-egenix-mx-base 3.2.9-2
   886	python2-enum34 1.1.6-1
   887	python2-gflags 3.1.2-1
   888	python2-gobject 3.28.3-1
   889	python2-gobject2 2.28.7-1
   890	python2-google-api-python-client 1.7.3-1
   891	python2-google-auth 1.5.0-1
   892	python2-google-auth-httplib2 0.0.3-1
   893	python2-html5-parser 0.4.5-1
   894	python2-html5lib 1.0.1-2
   895	python2-httplib2 0.11.3-1
   896	python2-hyperlink 18.0.0-1
   897	python2-idna 2.7-2
   898	python2-incremental 17.5.0-1
   899	python2-ipaddress 1.0.22-1
   900	python2-jinja 2.10-1
   901	python2-jsonrpclib 0.1.7-2
   902	python2-lxml 4.2.3-1
   903	python2-markupsafe 1.0-1
   904	python2-mechanize 1:0.3.6-1
   905	python2-msgpack 0.5.6-1
   906	python2-netifaces 0.10.7-1
   907	python2-numpy 1.14.5-1
   908	python2-oauth2client 4.1.2-1
   909	python2-oauth2client1412 1.4.12-3
   910	python2-olefile 0.45.1-1
   911	python2-packaging 17.1-1
   912	python2-paramiko 2.4.1-1
   913	python2-pbkdf2 1.3-3
   914	python2-pillow 5.1.0-1
   915	python2-ply 3.11-1
   916	python2-protobuf 3.5.2-1
   917	python2-psutil 5.4.6-1
   918	python2-pyaes 1.6.1-1
   919	python2-pyasn1 0.4.3-1
   920	python2-pyasn1-modules 0.2.2-1
   921	python2-pycparser 2.18-1
   922	python2-pycryptodomex 3.6.3-1
   923	python2-pygments 2.2.0-1
   924	python2-pynacl 1.2.1-1
   925	python2-pyopenssl 18.0.0-1
   926	python2-pyparsing 2.2.0-1
   927	python2-pyqt4 4.12.1-1
   928	python2-pyqt5 5.10.1-6
   929	python2-pysocks 1.6.8-1
   930	python2-qrcode 6.0-1
   931	python2-regex 2018.06.21-1
   932	python2-requests 2.19.1-1
   933	python2-rsa 3.4.2-2
   934	python2-setuptools 1:39.2.0-2
   935	python2-sip 4.19.8-1
   936	python2-six 1.11.0-1
   937	python2-twisted 18.4.0-1
   938	python2-typing 3.6.4-1
   939	python2-unrardll 0.1.3-3
   940	python2-uritemplate 3.0.0-2
   941	python2-urllib3 1.23-1
   942	python2-urwid 2.0.1-1
   943	python2-webencodings 0.5.1-1
   944	python2-wxpython3 3.0.2.0-1
   945	python2-xdg 0.26-1
   946	python2-xlib 0.23-1
   947	python2-yaml 3.12-3
   948	python2-zope-interface 4.5.0-1
   949	qalculate-gtk 2.6.0-1
   950	qt4 4.8.7-24
   951	qt5-base 5.11.1-1
   952	qt5-declarative 5.11.1-1
   953	qt5-location 5.11.1-1
   954	qt5-quickcontrols 5.11.1-1
   955	qt5-script 5.11.1-1
   956	qt5-sensors 5.11.1-1
   957	qt5-svg 5.11.1-1
   958	qt5-tools 5.11.1-1
   959	qt5-webchannel 5.11.1-1
   960	qt5-webkit 5.212.0alpha2-18
   961	qt5-x11extras 5.11.1-1
   962	qt5-xmlpatterns 5.11.1-1
   963	ranger 1.9.1-1
   964	raptor 2.0.15-8
   965	rasqal 1:0.9.33-2
   966	razercfg 0.39-1
   967	rdesktop 1.8.3-3
   968	re2 20180401-1
   969	readline 7.0.005-1
   970	recode 3.7-1
   971	redland 1:1.0.17-4
   972	redshift 1.12-1
   973	reiserfsprogs 3.6.27-1
   974	rest 0.8.1-1
   975	rhash 1.3.6-1
   976	rsync 3.1.3-1
   977	rtkit 0.11+8+ge0a51fe-1
   978	rtmpdump 1:2.4.r96.fa8646d-3
   979	rubberband 1.8.2-1
   980	ruby 2.5.1-1
   981	ruby-ffi 1.9.25-1
   982	ruby-maruku 0.7.3-3
   983	ruby-rb-inotify 0.9.10-2
   984	ruby-rdoc 6.0.4-1
   985	ruby-sass-listen 4.0.0-5
   986	ruby-yard 0.9.14-1
   987	ruby2.4 2.4.4-1
   988	rubygems 2.7.7-1
   989	rxvt-unicode 9.22-6
   990	rxvt-unicode-terminfo 9.22-6
   991	s-nail 14.9.10-1
   992	samba 4.8.3-1
   993	sbc 1.3-2
   994	sbsms 2.0.2-3
   995	sc 7.16-7
   996	scrot 0.8.18-1
   997	sdl 1.2.15-9
   998	sdl2 2.0.8-8
   999	sdl_image 1.2.12-4
  1000	sdl_mixer 1.2.12-5
  1001	sdl_net 1.2.8-3
  1002	sdl_sound 1.0.3-6
  1003	sdl_ttf 2.0.11-4
  1004	sed 4.5-1
  1005	serd 0.28.0-2
  1006	shadow 4.5-4
  1007	shared-mime-info 1.9-1
  1008	sip 4.19.8-1
  1009	slang 2.3.2-1
  1010	smartgit 18.1.2-1
  1011	smbclient 4.8.3-1
  1012	smpeg 0.4.5-3
  1013	snappy 1.1.7-1
  1014	sound-theme-freedesktop 0.8-3
  1015	soundtouch 2.0.0-1
  1016	spandsp 0.0.6-2
  1017	speex 1.2.0-1
  1018	speexdsp 1.2rc3-3
  1019	splint 3.1.2.git20180129-1
  1020	sqlite 3.24.0-1
  1021	srt 1.3.1-1
  1022	sshpass 1.06-1
  1023	startup-notification 0.12-5
  1024	steamcmd latest-2
  1025	stfl 0.24-3
  1026	stopwatch 3.5-7
  1027	strace 4.23-1
  1028	strongswan 5.6.3-1
  1029	sublime-text 3176-1
  1030	sudo 1.8.23-2
  1031	suil 0.10.0-2
  1032	suitesparse 5.2.0-1
  1033	sysfsutils 2.1.0-10
  1034	systemd 238.133-4
  1035	systemd-sysvcompat 238.133-4
  1036	taglib 1.11.1-1
  1037	talloc 2.1.13-1
  1038	tar 1.30-1
  1039	tcl 8.6.8-3
  1040	tdb 1.3.15-1
  1041	teamviewer 13.1.3026-9
  1042	telepathy-glib 0.24.1-2
  1043	telepathy-logger 0.8.2-2
  1044	telepathy-mission-control 5.16.4-2
  1045	terminator 1.91-6
  1046	tevent 1:0.9.36-1
  1047	texinfo 6.5-1
  1048	thin-provisioning-tools 0.7.6-1
  1049	thunar 1.8.1.11.gf5147445-1
  1050	thunar-volman 0.8.1-2
  1051	thunderbird 52.8.0-1
  1052	tig 2.3.3-1
  1053	tint2 16.4-1
  1054	tk 8.6.8-3
  1055	tmux 2.7-1
  1056	tree 1.7.0-2
  1057	tslib 1.16-1
  1058	ttf-dejavu 2.37-2
  1059	ttf-liberation 2.00.1-7
  1060	tumbler 0.2.1-2
  1061	twolame 0.3.13-8
  1062	tzdata 2018e-1
  1063	uchardet 0.0.6-1
  1064	udisks2 2.7.6-1
  1065	unibilium 2.0.0-1
  1066	unrar 1:5.6.5-1
  1067	unshield 1.4.2-1
  1068	unzip 6.0-12
  1069	upower 0.99.7-1
  1070	usbmuxd 1.1.0+28+g46bdf3e-1
  1071	usbutils 010-1
  1072	util-linux 2.32-3
  1073	v4l-utils 1.14.2-1
  1074	vagrant 2.1.2-1
  1075	valgrind 3.13.0-7
  1076	vamp-plugin-sdk 2.7.1-2
  1077	vi 1:070224-3
  1078	vid.stab 1.1-2
  1079	vifm 0.9.1-1
  1080	vim 8.1.0022-1
  1081	vim-clang-format-git 1-1
  1082	vim-runtime 8.1.0022-1
  1083	virtualbox 5.2.14-1
  1084	virtualbox-host-dkms 5.2.14-1
  1085	vlc 3.0.3-1
  1086	volume_key 0.3.10-1
  1087	vte-common 0.52.2-1
  1088	vte3 0.52.2-1
  1089	vulkan-icd-loader 1.1.73.0-1
  1090	wavpack 5.1.0-2
  1091	wayland 1.15.0-1
  1092	wayland-protocols 1.14-1
  1093	webkit2gtk 2.20.3-1
  1094	webrtc-audio-processing 0.3-2
  1095	wget 1.19.5-1
  1096	which 2.21-2
  1097	wildmidi 0.4.2-1
  1098	wireless_tools 30.pre9-2
  1099	wmctrl 1.07-5
  1100	woff2 1.0.2-1
  1101	wpa_supplicant 1:2.6-11
  1102	wxgtk-common 3.0.4-1
  1103	wxgtk2 3.0.4-1
  1104	wxgtk3 3.0.4-1
  1105	x265 2.8-1
  1106	xautomation 1.09-2
  1107	xbitmaps 1.1.2-1
  1108	xcb-proto 1.13-1
  1109	xcb-util 0.4.0-2
  1110	xcb-util-cursor 0.1.3-1
  1111	xcb-util-image 0.4.0-2
  1112	xcb-util-keysyms 0.4.0-2
  1113	xcb-util-renderutil 0.3.9-2
  1114	xcb-util-wm 0.4.1-2
  1115	xcb-util-xrm 1.3-1
  1116	xclip 0.13-1
  1117	xdg-user-dirs 0.17-1
  1118	xdg-utils 1.1.3-2
  1119	xdotool 3.20160805.1-1
  1120	xf86-input-libinput 0.27.1-1
  1121	xf86-input-synaptics 1.9.1-1
  1122	xf86-video-intel 1:2.99.917+831+ge7bfc906-1
  1123	xf86-video-nouveau 1.0.15-3
  1124	xf86-video-vesa 2.4.0-2
  1125	xfconf 4.12.1-4
  1126	xfsprogs 4.16.1-1
  1127	xine-lib 1.2.9-7
  1128	xkeyboard-config 2.24-1
  1129	xmlrpc-c 1:1.43.06-2
  1130	xmlsec 1.2.26-1
  1131	xorg-appres 1.0.5-1
  1132	xorg-bdftopcf 1.1-1
  1133	xorg-docs 1.7.1-2
  1134	xorg-font-util 1.3.1-2
  1135	xorg-font-utils 7.6-5
  1136	xorg-fonts-100dpi 1.0.3-3
  1137	xorg-fonts-75dpi 1.0.3-3
  1138	xorg-fonts-alias 1.0.3-2
  1139	xorg-fonts-encodings 1.0.4-5
  1140	xorg-fonts-misc 1.0.3-5
  1141	xorg-iceauth 1.0.8-1
  1142	xorg-luit 1.1.1-3
  1143	xorg-mkfontdir 1.0.7-8
  1144	xorg-mkfontscale 1.1.3-1
  1145	xorg-server 1.20.0-9
  1146	xorg-server-common 1.20.0-9
  1147	xorg-server-devel 1.20.0-9
  1148	xorg-server-xdmx 1.20.0-9
  1149	xorg-server-xephyr 1.20.0-9
  1150	xorg-server-xnest 1.20.0-9
  1151	xorg-server-xvfb 1.20.0-9
  1152	xorg-server-xwayland 1.20.0-9
  1153	xorg-sessreg 1.1.1-1
  1154	xorg-setxkbmap 1.3.1-2
  1155	xorg-smproxy 1.0.6-2
  1156	xorg-util-macros 1.19.2-1
  1157	xorg-x11perf 1.6.0-2
  1158	xorg-xauth 1.0.10-1
  1159	xorg-xbacklight 1.2.2-1
  1160	xorg-xcmsdb 1.0.5-2
  1161	xorg-xcursorgen 1.0.6-2
  1162	xorg-xdpyinfo 1.3.2-2
  1163	xorg-xdriinfo 1.0.6-1
  1164	xorg-xev 1.2.2-2
  1165	xorg-xgamma 1.0.6-2
  1166	xorg-xhost 1.0.7-2
  1167	xorg-xinit 1.4.0-3
  1168	xorg-xinput 1.6.2-2
  1169	xorg-xkbcomp 1.4.2-1
  1170	xorg-xkbevd 1.1.4-2
  1171	xorg-xkbutils 1.0.4-3
  1172	xorg-xkill 1.0.5-1
  1173	xorg-xlsatoms 1.1.2-2
  1174	xorg-xlsclients 1.1.4-1
  1175	xorg-xmessage 1.0.5-1
  1176	xorg-xmodmap 1.0.9-2
  1177	xorg-xpr 1.0.5-1
  1178	xorg-xprop 1.2.3-1
  1179	xorg-xrandr 1.5.0-1
  1180	xorg-xrdb 1.1.1-1
  1181	xorg-xrefresh 1.0.6-1
  1182	xorg-xset 1.2.4-1
  1183	xorg-xsetroot 1.1.2-1
  1184	xorg-xvinfo 1.1.3-2
  1185	xorg-xwd 1.0.7-1
  1186	xorg-xwininfo 1.1.4-1
  1187	xorg-xwud 1.0.5-1
  1188	xorgproto 2018.4-1
  1189	xscreensaver-arch-logo 5.39-1
  1190	xsel 1.2.0.20160929-1
  1191	xterm 333-1
  1192	xvidcore 1.3.5-1
  1193	xz 5.2.4-1
  1194	yajl 2.1.0-2
  1195	yaml-cpp 0.6.2-1
  1196	yaourt 1.9-1
  1197	yasm 1.3.0-2
  1198	zeromq 4.2.2-2
  1199	zip 3.0-8
  1200	zita-alsa-pcmi 0.2.0-4
  1201	zita-resampler 1.6.0-2
  1202	zlib 1:1.2.11-2
  1203	zsh 5.5.1-1
  1204	zstd 1.3.4-1
  1205	zvbi 0.2.35-2

The ouput of

sudo pacman -Qdt

     1	apr 1.6.3-1
     2	bc 1.07.1-1
     3	bubblewrap 0.2.1-1
     4	bullet 2.87-1
     5	cgmanager 0.41-2
     6	cln 1.3.4-3
     7	clutter 1.26.2-1
     8	dcadec 0.2.0-1
     9	doxygen 1.8.14-1
    10	ethtool 1:4.17-1
    11	gcc-ada 8.1.1+20180531-1
    12	gcc54 5.4.1-1
    13	gcc6 6.4.1-5
    14	gegl02 0.2.0-9
    15	gendesk 0.7-2
    16	gjs 1:1.52.3-1
    17	gnu-netcat 0.7.1-6
    18	gobject-introspection 1.56.1-1
    19	gperf 3.1-1
    20	gtksourceview2 2.10.5-4
    21	gtkspell 2.0.16-7
    22	help2man 1.47.6-1
    23	hiera 3.4.2-2
    24	http-parser 2.8.1-1
    25	icoutils 0.32.3-1
    26	imake 1.0.7-2
    27	intltool 0.51.0-3
    28	lib32-alsa-plugins 1.1.6-1
    29	lib32-dbus 1.12.8-1
    30	lib32-gettext 0.19.8.1-1
    31	lib32-glu 9.0.0-4
    32	lib32-lcms2 2.9-1
    33	lib32-libjpeg6-turbo 1.5.3-1
    34	lib32-libpcap 1.8.1-1
    35	lib32-libpng12 1.2.59-1
    36	lib32-libtxc_dxtn 1.0.1-5
    37	lib32-libxcursor 1.1.15-1
    38	lib32-libxss 1.2.2-3
    39	libappindicator-gtk3 12.10.0-12
    40	libart-lgpl 2.3.21-4
    41	libcloudproviders 0.2.5+9+g93dc5ea-1
    42	libcue 2.2.1-1
    43	libcurl-gnutls 7.60.0-1
    44	libdiscid 0.6.2-1
    45	libgdm 3.28.2-1
    46	libgee 0.20.1-2
    47	libgweather 3.28.2-1
    48	libpurple 2.13.0-2
    49	libtorrent 0.13.7-1
    50	libtxc_dxtn 1.0.1-6
    51	libxklavier 5.4-2
    52	lua51-luassert 1.7.10-2
    53	luarocks5.1 2.4.4-1
    54	mathjax 2.7.4-1
    55	mesa-demos 8.4.0-1
    56	minizip 1:1.2.11-2
    57	mygui 3.2.2-14
    58	nghttp2 1.32.0-1
    59	nm-connection-editor 1.8.14-1
    60	openjpeg 1.5.2-2
    61	openmotif 2.3.8-1
    62	openscenegraph 3.4.1-3
    63	perl-file-next 1.16-3
    64	perl-test-manifest 2.02-2
    65	pipewire 0.1.9-3
    66	portsmf 228-3
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Trilby · 2018-07-04 13:19:50

Why do you care how many packages you have installed? I like getting rid of anything I don't use, but there really is no need, and there's definitely no sense in getting rid of things you do use.

On another note - don't just randomly use sudo when it's not needed. There's no harm in this case, but it's just a bad habit.

EDIT: but then you do have a long output from -Qdt, those can all go unless you want those packages specifically. How do you normally remove packages? You should avoid using just `pacman -R <pkgname>` and instead use -Rs or -Rsn.

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riddle00 · 2018-07-04 13:25:13

Thank you! Duly noted about sudo, and deleted unused orphan packages. I cared because it seemed to me that there is certainly too many packages in comparison with other users, which signalled to me that something is fishy with having so many packages.

V1del · 2018-07-04 13:25:17

There's no generally applicable answer to that. Yes it can be normal to have that many packages, only you know what you actually use. A "safe" location to start clearing are the orphans mentioned in your pacman -Qdt output, as these contain things you haven't explicitly installed but might've been part of a dependency chain that doesn't rely on that anymore.

riddle00 · 2018-07-04 13:54:06

Thank you. By the way, I'm now down to 900 packages. It's enough cleaning, I think.

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ooo · 2018-07-04 15:00:23

riddle00 wrote:

Hey, I've found this thread, and it seems that Arch users definitely do not exceed 1000 packages.

That thread is >10 years old, and surely doesn't reflect the situation today.
Here's a more recent thread for comparison.

verndog · 2018-07-04 15:15:23

Trilby wrote:

Why do you care how many packages you have installed? I like getting rid of anything I don't use, but there really is no need, and there's definitely no sense in getting rid of things you do use.
On another note - don't just randomly use sudo when it's not needed. There's no harm in this case, but it's just a bad habit.
EDIT: but then you do have a long output from -Qdt, those can all go unless you want those packages specifically. How do you normally remove packages? You should avoid using just `pacman -R <pkgname>` and instead use -Rs or -Rsn.

Backing up my system, I want it as small as possible. I have managed to remove over a gigabyte of dead weight. Backups and/or re-installs take less time.

ewaller · 2018-07-04 15:35:46

meh!

ewaller@turing/home/ewaller % pacman -Qq | wc
   1597    1597   18509
ewaller@turing/home/ewaller %

ugjka · 2018-07-04 16:34:47

I have only 60 Gig ssd hdd and I have 1236 packages even after cleaning it up. Generally you want to only remove stuff you only used once and you know you'll never need again.

Trilby · 2018-07-04 23:51:06

ooo wrote:

That thread is >10 years old, and surely doesn't reflect the situation today.

How would time change this? Is arch getting bloated in it's old age?

$ pacman -Q | wc -l
444

ewaller · 2018-07-05 00:21:53

That is 2/3 what I would expect you to have. }:)>

nstgc · 2018-07-05 00:30:02

yaourt is deprecated. You can ax that, and its deps. I've switched to yay.

Trilby · 2018-07-05 00:53:55

Deprecated? Where did you get that? No. It's still just as alive as ever (unfortunately). It is still just as broken as ever - no more so. And switching from one hand-holding ignorance-maintaining helper to another isn't really a great step.

nstgc · 2018-07-05 01:44:36

Trilby wrote:

Deprecated? Where did you get that? No. It's still just as alive as ever (unfortunately). It is still just as broken as ever - no more so. And switching from one hand-holding ignorance-maintaining helper to another isn't really a great step.

\facepalm

I missread the wiki.

Yaourt is listed under "discontinued or problematic" AUR helpers. Its merely problematic.

In anycase, I'm glad I made that mistake. I much prefer yay.

As for an AUR helper being ignorance maintaining, simply downloading the appropriate build files from AUR and running makepkg -si doesn't seem any worse. Unless your issue is with the AUR itself, I don't see an issue with the helpers, nor how they are "ignorance-maintaining". For me, they are easier to search than the website, and I can do it from terminal. If anything the fact that yay and and yaourt prompt for me to look at the build files and install scripts reminds me not to be lazy. So perhaps that is hand-holding, but not ignorance-maintaining.

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