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lumiwa

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Registered: 2005-12-26

Posts: 712

update-kde

Hi!

After last update (expat...) I cannot start KDE:

Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.

Thanks.

lumiwa

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Registered: 2005-12-26

Posts: 712

Re: update-kde

...bad experience again with  testing repo enabled.
I downgrade dbus, hal, musicbrainz, perlxml, libwmf, wxgtk, xf86-ati and finally expat. Uh...and delete testing from pacman.conf.

Gullible Jones

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Registered: 2004-12-29

Posts: 4,863

Re: update-kde

File a bug. The devs would love to know about KDE being broken.

lumiwa

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Registered: 2005-12-26

Posts: 712

Re: update-kde

File a bug. The devs would love to know about KDE being broken.

I don't know if problem is just on my system because nobody complain? Does "bug report" need a registration?

brain0

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From: Aachen - Germany

Registered: 2005-01-03

Posts: 1,382

Re: update-kde

File a bug. The devs would love to know about KDE being broken.

I don't know if problem is just on my system because nobody complain? Does "bug report" need a registration?

Read the frontpage news. They just started using expat 2 in testing, so lots of things will be broken right now.

Gullible Jones

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Re: update-kde

Umm... All the stuff that they know of which requires recompilation has been recompiled. If you are sure that something needs recompiling, tell them about it!

By the time expat 2.0.0 gets into testing, the known packages which need recompile have been recompiled. Please report bugs against packages in current, extra and unstable that need a recompile to work with expat 2.0.0 when you find them.

lumiwa

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Registered: 2005-12-26

Posts: 712

Re: update-kde

Umm... All the stuff that they know of which requires recompilation has been recompiled. If you are sure that something needs recompiling, tell them about it!

By the time expat 2.0.0 gets into testing, the known packages which need recompile have been recompiled. Please report bugs against packages in current, extra and unstable that need a recompile to work with expat 2.0.0 when you find them.

I asked also on mailing list and I got an answer:
"Bingo, user error: upgrade fontconfig aswell. The up-to-date fontconfig
from testing can't work with the old expat, so your system can't work
without downgrading that too with the old expat "

I have 2.3.95-1 fontconfig version (from Fedora) installed which is higher version as from repo but real is not higher.

JGC

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Registered: 2003-12-03

Posts: 1,664

Re: update-kde

We can't and won't support self compiled packages. For fontconfig, a recompile of your customized package is your task, not ours.

lumiwa

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Registered: 2005-12-26

Posts: 712

Re: update-kde

We can't and won't support self compiled packages. For fontconfig, a recompile of your customized package is your task, not ours.

I understand you and please accept my apologize .

Mitja

BTW: I installed non Arch fontconfig because it works much better. I don't know what is wrong with "original" because Konqueror for example open page after few seconds but with "nonoriginal" immediately.

Gullible Jones

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Registered: 2004-12-29

Posts: 4,863

Re: update-kde

Last I checked, Konqueror opened up pages immediately with Arch's fontconfig. You sure it wasn't something else, like KDE's IPv6 support being left enabled?

lumiwa

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Registered: 2005-12-26

Posts: 712

Re: update-kde

Last I checked, Konqueror opened up pages immediately with Arch's fontconfig. You sure it wasn't something else, like KDE's IPv6 support being left enabled?

No, it is not.But if it enable what is difference between two "fontconfigs" about IPv6?

test1000

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Registered: 2005-04-03

Posts: 834

Re: update-kde

afaik maybe because fedora ships with a fontconfig which have the byecode interpreter off makes a difference to speed, because it doesn't have to read the hints of the fonts. But that's just a shot in the dark mostly..

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lumiwa

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Registered: 2005-12-26

Posts: 712

Re: update-kde

afaik maybe because fedora ships with a fontconfig which have the byecode interpreter off makes a difference to speed, because it doesn't have to read the hints of the fonts. But that's just a shot in the dark mostly..

In the KDE Control Center - Fonts - Bitstream Vera Sans now. In the Konqueror Settings - Fonts I choose the same font and Konqueror opening pages very fast with Arch last fontconfig. If I change Kin Konqueror Settings - Fonts - Standard Font to Sans Serif that I can see correct letters on the web pages than Konqueror need a time to opening pages. But if I do the same with Fedora fontconfig than there are no changes of Konqueror speed and fonts looks better.