cdrkit - Debian's fork of cdrtools

Romashka · 2006-09-04 23:32:01

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Romashka · 2006-09-05 01:03:31

I'm just wondering why there are so many CD/DVD-burning tools for Linux? cdrdao
cdrtools (BTW its home URL is not available - error 404)
dvdrtools (fork of cdrtools, going to home URL leads to error 500)
dvd+rw-tools
And now yet another fork of cdrtools.

Can someone give a simple explanation "who is who"?

iBertus · 2006-09-05 01:06:25

Romashka wrote:

Can someone give a simple explanation "who is who"?

It would seem that the cdrecord author is difficult to get along with and some of these forks are attempts to not have to deal with him again. </runon>

Romashka · 2006-09-05 01:22:45

iBertus wrote:

It would seem that the cdrecord author is difficult to get along with and some of these forks are attempts to not have to deal with him again.

From what I know it seems so.
Now I think maybe cdrkit and dvdrtools will merge into one project?

kill · 2006-09-05 01:55:45

iBertus wrote:

It would seem that the cdrecord author is difficult to get along with and some of these forks are attempts to not have to deal with him again.

While it is true he can be a jerk at times. It has nothing to do with his personality, at least not officially with cdrkit. The real reason why Debian dropped cdrtools and developed cdrkit is he released parts of the latest version of cdrtools under the CDDL which is GPL incompatiable and goes against the the Debian Free Software Guidelines

iBertus · 2006-09-05 13:07:07

kill wrote:

iBertus wrote:
It would seem that the cdrecord author is difficult to get along with and some of these forks are attempts to not have to deal with him again.
While it is true he can be a jerk at times. It has nothing to do with his personality, at least not officially with cdrkit. The real reason why Debian dropped cdrtools and developed cdrkit is he released parts of the latest version of cdrtools under the CDDL which is GPL incompatiable and goes against the the Debian Free Software Guidelines

Yes, it was because the new code was released under CDDL, but the Debian devs claim he would not discuss with them why it did not meet the requirements and more seriously, why the CDDL is not GPL compatable. He basically called them liars. So, that is my definition of difficult to get along with.

JGC · 2006-09-05 13:36:45

Both sun and FSF state that CDDL and GPL are incompatible with eachother. This guy is claiming that he can release cdrtools with both licenses tagged on it.

iBertus · 2006-09-05 14:30:11

JGC wrote:

Both sun and FSF state that CDDL and GPL are incompatible with eachother. This guy is claiming that he can release cdrtools with both licenses tagged on it.

Yes, he seems to think so regardless of the fact that CDDL was designed to be GPL incompatible.

arooaroo · 2006-09-05 14:52:20

Romashka wrote:

I'm just wondering why there are so many CD/DVD-burning tools for Linux?

Change this to:

"why there are so many (insert utility category here) for Linux?" and welcome to Linux!

Romashka · 2006-09-05 16:39:12

arooaroo wrote:

Romashka wrote:
I'm just wondering why there are so many CD/DVD-burning tools for Linux?
Change this to:
"why there are so many (insert utility category here) for Linux?" and welcome to Linux!

kth5 · 2006-09-05 17:58:51

iBertus wrote:

Romashka wrote:
Can someone give a simple explanation "who is who"?
It would seem that the cdrecord author is difficult to get along with and some of these forks are attempts to not have to deal with him again. </runon>

Well in fact I don't know wether he can be nice in irl or not. But back when there was no such thing as a generally working dvdrtools, cdrtools had an optional support for it which was only comercially available. I asked the Author - Joerg Schilling - back then, how much a license would be and when he could provide one, no reply.

Before this is getting nasty, I better stop...

Bralkein · 2006-09-05 23:53:43

I've never used cdrecord directly, since K3B pretty much covers all my burning needs, but apparently it's a nasty program in many ways. If this fork turns out like the whole XFree86 -> X.org thing, then that's fine by me, because it means better quality code running on my computer, which makes me happy - even if I would have to put up with burning a few more coasters in the short term.

clarence · 2006-09-06 04:57:55

From what I know of the guy his only issue was to not accept bug reports from users of certain distros that packaged cdrtools with custom packages. Sounded fair enough to me.

iphitus · 2006-09-06 06:28:39

Bralkein wrote:

I've never used cdrecord directly, since K3B pretty much covers all my burning needs, but apparently it's a nasty program in many ways. If this fork turns out like the whole XFree86 -> X.org thing, then that's fine by me, because it means better quality code running on my computer, which makes me happy - even if I would have to put up with burning a few more coasters in the short term.

k3b is simply a front end to cdrecord and dvd+rwtools my friend, as are most GUI burners (excepting nero)

James

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