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#1 2020-03-09 10:20:20

leethebee
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Laptop will not warm boot from tty or xsession

Hi all,

Problem:
I recently swapped out my SSDs and now my laptop will not 'warm boot' (I get Intel Boot Manager with no SSD detected) but will 'cold boot' every time.

Hardware:
Thinkpad X220 i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Samsung V-Nand SSD860 QVO 1TB (6Gb/s) [new SSD, old SSD was Sandisk SSD Plus 240G]

Software:
Vanilla x64 Arch updated with -Syyu
Kernel: Linux 5.5.8-arch1-1
i3-gaps with i3status

I think the old SSD was a nand and the new SSD is definitely v-nand -could this be the difference that is causing the issue? I don't know enough about boot processes to diagnose this, even having trawled the wiki for hours.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Last edited by leethebee (2020-03-09 10:21:05)

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#2 2020-03-09 10:49:48

Skunky
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Re: Laptop will not warm boot from tty or xsession

What do you mean with 'will not warm boot' ? What errors do you get / where does it hang? Also a journalctl would be very useful

Last edited by Skunky (2020-03-09 10:50:26)

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#3 2020-03-09 12:05:56

leethebee
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Re: Laptop will not warm boot from tty or xsession

warm boot = reboot without losing power (also called soft-boot)
cold boot = shutdown completely and restart 'from cold' (also called hard-boot)

output of journalctl

journalctl output is looong - can I ask what you are looking for? Curious minds need to learn!

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#4 2020-03-09 16:29:24

Skunky
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Re: Laptop will not warm boot from tty or xsession

Sorry i misread your post, i meant to ask what do you see when you boot and somehow missed the intel boot manager part.
Anyway i'm pretty confident this kind of issue is not OS related but i could be wrong, best would be to try the SSD with a different PC and try to warm boot from that

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#5 2020-03-09 16:35:11

schard
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Re: Laptop will not warm boot from tty or xsession

Are you using EFI boot?
If so, what's the output of

efibootmgr -v -u

Also please provide the output of lsblk.

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#6 2020-03-09 17:17:37

leethebee
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Re: Laptop will not warm boot from tty or xsession

@Skunky: when I try to reboot I don't miss the Intel Boot Agent, it appears but then doesn't list my SSD as a boot option -however from cold start it goes straight to grub menu and boots as expected into tty1. I agree that it is probably not OS related as the issue only occurred after migrating to the new SSD. My initial thought was that the 'vertical' structure of the v-nand SSD was confusing the boot process; realistically that is the only change that has made sense to me.

@schard: No, using legacy with grub. Output of lsblk:

NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda      8:0    0 931.5G  0 disk
├─sda1   8:1    0   300M  0 part /boot
├─sda2   8:2    0    20G  0 part [SWAP]
├─sda3   8:3    0    50G  0 part /
└─sda4   8:4    0 861.2G  0 part /home

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#7 2020-03-10 10:41:30

Skunky
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Re: Laptop will not warm boot from tty or xsession

I would try reinstalling grub and updating the grub.cfg, the only things i can think of that can be aware of your SSD change are your filesystem and boot loader, are you using ext4?

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#8 2020-03-10 10:59:52

leethebee
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Re: Laptop will not warm boot from tty or xsession

Have reinstalling and reconfigured grub ( grub-install and grub-mkconfig ) - no change

I am using ext4 across the board - always basically follow the install wiki, even though I know the process I still get tired!

Don't get me wrong, the laptop is still functional, I just can't use the reboot function successfully.

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#9 2020-03-10 11:09:45

schard
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Re: Laptop will not warm boot from tty or xsession

Did you check for available firmware upgrades with fwupd or manually for both, the BIOS and the disk?

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#10 2020-03-10 12:40:23

leethebee
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Re: Laptop will not warm boot from tty or xsession

yes I checked for both, it's an old laptop so no firmware updates that I can see from Lenovo and not supported on fwupd.

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#11 2020-03-23 19:33:45

leethebee
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Re: Laptop will not warm boot from tty or xsession

This is still unsolved, I'm just living with not being able to reboot for the time being. I have tried everything I can think of, the extreme option is to revert to the old SSD and call it a day.

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#12 2020-03-23 21:47:22

Skunky
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Re: Laptop will not warm boot from tty or xsession

Do you have another pc where you can put the ssd and reboot? Could be a motherboard firmware issue with that kind of ssd

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