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Moo-Crumpus · 2006-09-26 16:25:41

... I feel increasingly like beeing observed and ruled by a kind of forum gestapo. Makes me feel very uncomfortable.
For my taste, regulations are out of proportions. For my taste, it is like a cancer of rules, rudeness and penalty. This is down and out.

phrakture · 2006-09-26 17:08:31

Well, I debated troll binning this, as this is a retaliatory post. But i will leave it here. Your topic was removed because you were being an ass. Try being nice, and your topics will remain. Optionally, you can cry about it.

Moo-Crumpus · 2006-09-26 18:09:51

no one can check and decide for himself if i was an ass. this is just your opinion, and you removed any proof. nice trick.
guess you will now ban me for retaliatory posting, but hey, than you have to ban yourself for your post. childish, isn't it? i think we both have better things to do. i am going to meet my wife and children and have a nice day, and hope you are having a good time, too. with best wishes and kind regards,

dtw · 2006-09-26 18:25:06

Moo-Crumpus wrote:

no one can check and decide for himself if i was an ass

Well, yes, we can because it has been moved not deleted. I'm not sure for what purpose the original thread was started or what prompted it but I think that's all Dusty was asking.

Now you have attacked Phrakture, who has done a perfectly acceptable thing by removing your post until we can clarify what's going on. No-one is going to get banned so lets jut try and discuss it shall we? What exactly is going on?

cactus · 2006-09-26 18:25:44

phrakture · 2006-09-26 18:29:39

dtw · 2006-09-26 18:40:25

I propose contested thread is moved to general population, minus phraktures locking post and locked for general debate and air clearing.

I also propose that, unless phrak dislikes me personally (possible), he not remain logged into numerous messaging systems which he doesn't repsond to

phrakture · 2006-09-26 18:49:21

dtw wrote:

I propose contested thread is moved to general population, minus phraktures locking post and locked for general debate and air clearing.
I also propose that, unless phrak dislikes me personally (possible), he not remain logged into numerous messaging systems which he doesn't repsond to

Sounds good - PS I'm logged on at home. There's no one there. Try hitting me on jabber (phrakture@phraktured.net) I'm there now.

Dusty · 2006-09-26 18:51:44

I'll agree with dtw, but I'm really concerned about the red eye on the guinea pig.

I'm also starting to worry about the fact that cactus has posted to a thread that doesn't mention tacos. By making this statement I have rectified the situation.

Finally, phrakture doesn't use instant messengers since he discovered telepathy. Perhaps you're using the wrong protocol?

Cheers all,
Dusty

cactus · 2006-09-26 18:59:36

perhaps the images should be removed, or a whole new topic started, to discuss the actual presented issue.

and, of course..tacos.

Moo-Crumpus · 2006-09-26 19:17:21

dtw wrote:

Moo-Crumpus wrote:
no one can check and decide for himself if i was an ass
Well, yes, we can because it has been moved not deleted. I'm not sure for what purpose the original thread was started or what prompted it but I think that's all Dusty was asking.
Now you have attacked Phrakture, who has done a perfectly acceptable thing by removing your post until we can clarify what's going on. No-one is going to get banned so lets jut try and discuss it shall we? What exactly is going on?

What went on? Lately, there where several posts of people complaining and demanding this and that. Flames have been started, people reacted angry, exited and huffy. Some people have retired from this forum just because of a abrasive mood and harsh response or brazen demands.

I just wanted to remind you that this is a normal processing in larger groups. From time to time, people have to redefine their roles and targets. I thought everybody knows, so I just recalled group_dynamics: don't feel offended, it is a normal process, please calm down. I thought that was not rude or smart-alecky. Suddenly I was cought in a trap.
The first answer gave me feedback it *was* taken to be smart-alecky. Remember, I am no native english speaker, and have some problems with the "feeling" of the language.
The second was from dusty, who sounded annoyed and I felt offended. I took that as proof of my posting, that some of us react touchy. So I answered he proofed my initial posting. While Phracture removed my posting without asking, dusty contacted me, and I think we worked it out, apologized each other for not taking the needed care. I told phracture he had to do what he had to do.

After that, I thought the way things are happening here are not ok at all. A little issue between me and dusty, kindly cleared between both of us, has become made the BIG thing by phracture, who was never adressed since I named him gestapo... because he is doing the mind and taste police while naming other ones ass and stfu. I am and was member in many communities, and never, never happened such a erroneous trend, as it happens here.

mucknert · 2006-09-26 19:24:42

I like the bunny. And I like tacos.

phrakture · 2006-09-26 19:28:00

Moo-Crumpus wrote:

After that, I thought the way things are happening here are not ok at all. A little issue between me and dusty, kindly cleared between both of us, has become made the BIG thing by phracture, who was never adressed since I named him gestapo... because he is doing the mind and taste police while naming other ones ass and stfu. I am and was member in many communities, and never, never happened such a erroneous trend, as it happens here.

I don't get what you're saying here... I sent you a PM to say that I had moved your thread to a private forum for use to review. The main reason that was done, was so you didn't think Dusty moved it, as you were being a bit brackish towards Dusty. Your response was the first post in this thread, though I got it in PM. That is when it escalated. You can not expect to call people names and make accusations like the above and get a hug? You had to expect that it would bother _someone_, you are the one talking about group dynamics, yes?

phrakture · 2006-09-26 19:29:37

Moo-Crumpus wrote:

While Phracture removed my posting without asking,

Wait, I should be asking people before moderating their posts? Crap order_viagra_now@email.com desevers an apology from me!

dtw · 2006-09-26 19:35:45

Moo-Crumpus wrote:

dtw wrote:
Moo-Crumpus wrote:
no one can check and decide for himself if i was an ass
Well, yes, we can because it has been moved not deleted. I'm not sure for what purpose the original thread was started or what prompted it but I think that's all Dusty was asking.
Now you have attacked Phrakture, who has done a perfectly acceptable thing by removing your post until we can clarify what's going on. No-one is going to get banned so lets jut try and discuss it shall we? What exactly is going on?
What went on? Lately, there where several posts of people complaining and demanding this and that. Flames have been started, people reacted angry, exited and huffy. Some people have retired from this forum just because of a abrasive mood and harsh response or brazen demands.
I just wanted to remind you that this is a normal processing in larger groups. From time to time, people have to redefine their roles and targets. I thought everybody knows, so I just recalled group_dynamics: don't feel offended, it is a normal process, please calm down. I thought that was not rude or smart-alecky. Suddenly I was cought in a trap.
The first answer gave me feedback it *was* taken to be smart-alecky. Remember, I am no native english speaker, and have some problems with the "feeling" of the language.
The second was from dusty, who sounded annoyed and I felt offended. I took that as proof of my posting, that some of us react touchy. So I answered he proofed my initial posting. While Phracture removed my posting without asking, dusty contacted me, and I think we worked it out, apologized each other for not taking the needed care. I told phracture he had to do what he had to do.

Ok, that's pretty mcuh exactly what I thought had happened. So it's all a big misunderstanding? The original post was made with good intentions that may not have come accross because of language issues. Phrak did what he had to do, there were some crossed words, everyone is happy now that is cleared up: yes/no?

Moo-Crumpus · 2006-09-26 19:39:15

no. nothing is cleared up. phrakture is totally out of control.

tlaloc · 2006-09-26 19:43:54

Yes.

And the pictures above are great and should not be removed!

Come down, guys ...

phrakture · 2006-09-26 19:44:48

I'm gonna bow out of this one... you're right, I'm wrong.

Moo-Crumpus · 2006-09-26 19:46:33

phrakture wrote:

I don't get what you're saying here... I sent you a PM to say that I had moved your thread to a private forum for use to review. The main reason that was done, was so you didn't think Dusty moved it, as you were being a bit brackish towards Dusty. Your response was the first post in this thread, though I got it in PM. That is when it escalated. You can not expect to call people names and make accusations like the above and get a hug? You had to expect that it would bother _someone_, you are the one talking about group dynamics, yes?

You moved a harmless thread. You lost any sense in where it is necessary to act and where not.
You sent me an unpolite and harsh pm after removing the thread. You could - if it was necessary at all - complain first, react then after hearing what me or dusty would say. You act like a taliban.

My first posting here was a sign that at least I think you are ruling absolutely immoderate.

dtw · 2006-09-26 19:49:04

Moo-Crumpus wrote:

no. nothing is cleared up. phrakture is totally out of control.

He is frustrated, you are frustarted. You're both human. There was a misunderstanding. You misunderstood Dusty, he misunderstood you, you misunderstood Phrakture's actions. With that many misunderstandings I think it is best forgotten purely for the sake of peace and quiet.

tlaloc · 2006-09-26 19:50:21

Useless discussion - too many personaly feelings obviously hurt - please lock!

Moo-Crumpus · 2006-09-26 19:52:57

cheers, dtw.

Moo-Crumpus · 2006-09-26 19:57:18

phrakture wrote:

Moo-Crumpus wrote:
While Phracture removed my posting without asking,
Wait, I should be asking people before moderating their posts? Crap order_viagra_now@email.com desevers an apology from me!

Wrong. You should try to listen to the ruled members before acting that way. You need sure instinct. There is a difference between spam and members speking their mind, isn't it! Your job as moderator is not easy, I know. It is ambitious, and if you do it the way you do it now you do it bad.

lumiwa · 2006-09-26 19:58:20

Moo-Crumpus wrote:

no one can check and decide for himself if i was an ass. this is just your opinion, and you removed any proof. nice trick.
guess you will now ban me for retaliatory posting, but hey, than you have to ban yourself for your post. childish, isn't it? i think we both have better things to do. i am going to meet my wife and children and have a nice day, and hope you are having a good time, too. with best wishes and kind regards,

I don't have nothing against your first post and nothing against you but I understood your post as provocation. I am so sorry.

phrakture · 2006-09-26 20:00:31

Moo-Crumpus wrote:

You moved a harmless thread. You lost any sense in where it is necessary to act and where not.
You sent me an unpolite and harsh pm after removing the thread. You could - if it was necessary at all - complain first, react then after hearing what me or dusty would say. You act like a taliban.
My first posting here was a sign that at least I think you are ruling absolutely immoderate.

I wish to clarify. I moved a thread deemed harmless after I moved it.

As for the "unpolite and harsh" PM. Here's a screenshot:

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