Random lockups during boot

SystemParadox · 2006-09-27 19:55:38

Hello everyone.
I'm very experienced with Linux and solving hardware issues, but this one has me completely baffled.

I'm getting random lockups during the boot process. And when I say random, I mean random. It doesn't matter whether it's a cold boot or a reboot. There are about 20 different places I have seen it stop during the boot process (though by adding a lot of bootloader options it seems to mostly stop at the "loading udev events" stage). There are no error messages or anything.

I've had it lock up at:
Freeing SMP alternatives
Freeing unused kernel memory
(haven't had a problem with the above since i added nosmp, noapci and noacpi)
Detection of the USB controllers
Hard disk detection- both hda and hdb timing out
Loading udev events
And a lot of other places I can't remember.

First of all, please can I have a list of bootloader options for turning off hardware related options that have been known to cause lockups like this. I've looked on google, but can't find a list of options anywhere. So far I've got:
nosmp noacpi pci=noacpi noapic nodma

Interestingly, when it freezes at the "loading udev events" stage, I can always toggle the lights on my keyboard a couple of times before even that stops working. Hopefully some udev guys can suggest something here.

Here's my lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266] Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP]
00:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 46)
00:0a.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 536EP Data Fax Modem
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)

As you can see, I've got a VIA board, which doesn't really inspire me (this is a friend's PC which I'm trying to install Linux on- he's never had problems with Windows, so I'm guessing that something that Linux is doing is triggering the problem)

And my dmesg:

Linux version 2.6.18-ARCH (root@Wohnung) (gcc version 4.1.1) #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 22 12:13:37 CEST 2006
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 00000000000a0000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000002fff0000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000002fff0000 - 000000002fff3000 (ACPI NVS)
BIOS-e820: 000000002fff3000 - 0000000030000000 (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec01000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
0MB HIGHMEM available.
767MB LOWMEM available.
found SMP MP-table at 000f4c40
On node 0 totalpages: 196592
DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:0
Normal zone: 192496 pages, LIFO batch:31
DMI 2.3 present.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 BIOSTA ) @ 0x000f66d0
ACPI: RSDT (v001 BIOSTA AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x2fff3000
ACPI: FADT (v001 BIOSTA AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x2fff3040
ACPI: MADT (v001 BIOSTA AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x2fff6ec0
ACPI: DSDT (v001 BIOSTA AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000c) @ 0x00000000
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x4008
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
Processor #0 6:10 APIC version 16
ACPI: Skipping IOAPIC probe due to 'noapic' option.
Using ACPI for processor (LAPIC) configuration information
Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.4
Virtual Wire compatibility mode.
OEM ID: OEM00000 Product ID: PROD00000000 APIC at: 0xFEE00000
I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC00000.
Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs
Processors: 1
Allocating PCI resources starting at 40000000 (gap: 30000000:cec00000)
Detected 1799.277 MHz processor.
Built 1 zonelists. Total pages: 196592
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Arch-fallback ro root=306 nosmp noacpi noapic hdb=noprobe
mapped APIC to ffffd000 (fee00000)
mapped IOAPIC to ffffc000 (fec00000)
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 16384 bytes)
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Memory: 771924k/786368k available (2256k kernel code, 13948k reserved, 708k data, 228k init, 0k highmem)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 3601.78 BogoMIPS (lpj=7203577)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000420 00000000 00000000 00000000
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
Compat vDSO mapped to ffffe000.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
Freeing SMP alternatives: 12k freed
checking if image is initramfs... it is
Freeing initrd memory: 3429k freed
ACPI: Core revision 20060707
ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found.
ACPI: setting ELCR to 0200 (from 1a28)
CPU0: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ stepping 00
SMP mode deactivated, forcing use of dummy APIC emulation.
Brought up 1 CPUs
migration_cost=0
NET: Registered protocol family 16
ACPI: bus type pci registered
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb3f0, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
Setting up standard PCI resources
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
ACPI: Assume root bridge [_SB_.PCI0] bus is 0
PCI quirk: region 4000-407f claimed by vt8235 PM
PCI quirk: region 5000-500f claimed by vt8235 SMB
Boot video device is 0000:01:00.0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 1 3 4 *5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 *12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 1 *3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKA] (IRQs 20) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKB] (IRQs 21) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKC] (IRQs 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKD] (IRQs 23) *0, disabled.
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
pnp: PnP ACPI init
pnp: PnP ACPI: found 13 devices
SCSI subsystem initialized
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps, post a report
PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:01.0
IO window: disabled.
MEM window: e0000000-e1ffffff
PREFETCH window: d8000000-dfffffff
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:01.0 to 64
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP route cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1572864 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 786432 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536)
TCP reno registered
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac)
apm: overridden by ACPI.
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996 okir@monad.swb.de).
Initializing Cryptographic API
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered
io scheduler deadline registered
io scheduler cfq registered (default)
ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB]
ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB]
ACPI: Fan [FAN] (on)
ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (52 C)
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 16384K size 1024 blocksize
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
PNP: PS/2 controller doesn't have AUX irq; using default 12
serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
TCP bic registered
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17
Using IPI No-Shortcut mode
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5)
Freeing unused kernel memory: 228k freed
Time: tsc clocksource has been installed.
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:11.1
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11
PCI: setting IRQ 11 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:11.1[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
PCI: VIA IRQ fixup for 0000:00:11.1, from 255 to 11
VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
VP_IDE: VIA vt8235 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci0000:00:11.1
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xe000-0xe007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xe008-0xe00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
Probing IDE interface ide0...
usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub
USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0
hda: Maxtor 6E040L0, ATA DISK drive
hdb: DVDRW IDE 16X, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Probing IDE interface ide1...
hdc: DVD-ROM BDV316C, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: Maxtor 71629 AP, ATA DISK drive
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: irq 11, io base 0x0000d400
usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 5
PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.1[B] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: irq 5, io base 0x0000d800
usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 12
PCI: setting IRQ 12 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.2[C] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 12 (level, low) -> IRQ 12
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: irq 12, io base 0x0000dc00
usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
hda: max request size: 128KiB
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 3
PCI: setting IRQ 3 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.3[D] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: EHCI Host Controller
ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4
ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: irq 3, io mem 0xe2401000
ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004
usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 4-0:1.0: 6 ports detected
hda: 80293248 sectors (41110 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(133)
hda: cache flushes supported
hda: hda1 hda2 <hda5>
hdd: max request size: 128KiB
hdd: 3184170 sectors (1630 MB) w/128KiB Cache, CHS=3158/16/63, DMA
hdd:<6>hdb: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
hdd1 hdd2 <hdd5>
hdc: ATAPI 1X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache, UDMA(33)
md: md driver 0.90.3 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md: bitmap version 4.39
md: linear personality registered for level -1
md: multipath personality registered for level -4
md: raid0 personality registered for level 0
md: raid1 personality registered for level 1
raid5: automatically using best checksumming function: pIII_sse
pIII_sse : 3547.000 MB/sec
raid5: using function: pIII_sse (3547.000 MB/sec)
raid6: int32x1 665 MB/s
raid6: int32x2 818 MB/s
raid6: int32x4 671 MB/s
raid6: int32x8 502 MB/s
raid6: mmxx1 1434 MB/s
raid6: mmxx2 2336 MB/s
raid6: sse1x1 1367 MB/s
usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
raid6: sse1x2 2252 MB/s
raid6: using algorithm sse1x2 (2252 MB/s)
md: raid6 personality registered for level 6
md: raid5 personality registered for level 5
md: raid4 personality registered for level 4
md: raid10 personality registered for level 10
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
usbcore: registered new driver hiddev
Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module 1.0-8774 Tue Aug 1 20:54:08 PDT 2006
input: HID 1241:1111 as /class/input/input1
input: USB HID v1.00 Mouse [HID 1241:1111] on usb-0000:00:10.0-1
usbcore: registered new driver usbhid
drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver
input: PC Speaker as /class/input/input2
via-rhine.c:v1.10-LK1.4.1 July-24-2006 Written by Donald Becker
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:12.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
eth0: VIA Rhine II at 0x1ec00, 00:e0:4c:b9:d3:21, IRQ 11.
eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x786d advertising 05e1 Link 45e1.
ieee1394: Initialized config rom entry `ip1394'
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:09.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP generic driver version 2.4.2
ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.1 (PCI): IRQ=[5] MMIO=[e2400000-e24007ff] Max Packet=[2048] IR/IT contexts=[4/8]
NET: Registered protocol family 23
gameport: NS558 PnP Gameport is pnp00:0b/gameport0, io 0x201, speed 877kHz
parport: PnPBIOS parport detected.
parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP]
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4
agpgart: Detected VIA PM266/KM266 chipset
agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xd0000000
ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[0011066640008c6c]

Alight that's it. Adding noacpi, noapic and nosmp appear to have helped the problem. SO WHY HAVE I GOT ACPI AND APIC INFO ABOVE? Does the Arch kernel ignore bootloader options or not?

Sorry about the long post. Unfortunately I'm leaving for uni in a few days, so if I don't get this fixed by then my friend won't have Linux.

Any suggestions very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Simon

SystemParadox · 2006-09-27 20:33:03

I've just realised that it should be "acpi=off", not "noacpi".

Booting with the option acpi=off causes the kernel to panic. WHAT?
Some of the messages I see go something along the lines of:
[some function or something] is at acpi_hw_low_level_read

Why does turning acpi off cause the kernel to do low level reads of the acpi system?

PLEASE- can one of the kernel people shed some light on this.

phrakture · 2006-09-27 22:44:55

The "loading udev events" stage is controlled by mkinitcpio. If it hangs before that stage, it is most likely kernel related.

Do you happen to know aht ide controller you use? have you tried the kernel26-fallback.img ? Are you using the beyond kernel?

SystemParadox · 2006-09-28 10:16:44

I'm using the plain arch kernel (2.6.18-ARCH), with kernel26-fallback.img.

Would the beyond kernel help?

As posted in my lspci:
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)

Thanks
Simon

phrakture · 2006-09-28 15:01:12

Erm, I don't know the module for that controller. That's why I asked.

Few things:
Firstly, no the arch kernel does not ignore bootloader options. That's not really possible, as they are passed directly to the kernel (i.e. /proc/cmdline).
Secondly, is it more common this hang happens *after* the ":: Loading udev events" or before?

Can you post the output of "mkinitcpio -M" ?

beyond might help, not sure.

Lone_Wolf · 2006-09-28 17:41:17

I have an Asus K7V mobo + Athlon XP 1800 with almost the same chipset and definitely the same ide controller.

this is my lspci output :

00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333]
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP]
00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
00:0f.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 61)
00:0f.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 61)
00:0f.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 63)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A ISA Bridge
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 23)
00:11.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 23)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x] (rev a1)

I'm using mkinitcpio without any changes and have no problems at all.

Edit : the module for the ide controller is via82cxxx

Arch Linux

#1 2006-09-27 19:55:38

Random lockups during boot

#2 2006-09-27 20:33:03

Re: Random lockups during boot

#3 2006-09-27 22:44:55

Re: Random lockups during boot

#4 2006-09-28 10:16:44

Re: Random lockups during boot

#5 2006-09-28 15:01:12

Re: Random lockups during boot

#6 2006-09-28 17:41:17

Re: Random lockups during boot

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