yaourt: pacman frontend

Pajaro · 2007-03-14 06:43:25

wain, very good work.

Susu · 2007-03-14 18:45:17

I encountered a little "bug" in yaourt: While "pacman -Sg" lists all available groups, "yaourt -Sg" doesn't. Listing all packages in a group works both with pacman as with yaourt. Maybe you can fix this?!

dolby · 2007-03-14 19:38:26

yaourt is seriously missing english documentation. better yet a manpage

Susu · 2007-03-14 20:12:50

You just type "yaourt" an you'll get your "manpage"

dolby · 2007-03-14 20:45:20

i did but on the french archlinux wiki theres a howto id like to see translated to english and ported to the main wiki. sadly i dont know any french and cant do it myself

edit: iim talking about http://wiki.archlinux.fr/howto:archlinux:yaourt

Last edited by dolby (2007-03-14 20:48:11)

wain · 2007-03-14 21:21:50

Susu wrote:

I encountered a little "bug" in yaourt: While "pacman -Sg" lists all available groups, "yaourt -Sg" doesn't. Listing all packages in a group works both with pacman as with yaourt. Maybe you can fix this?!

Cool I did not know -Sg
I have just added it to yaourt. You will see it in the next release.

Susu · 2007-03-16 13:10:29

Thanks wain! :-)

Bola · 2007-03-17 11:43:19

good tool.... but there is something as pacman-optimize for yaourt?

wain · 2007-03-17 21:52:55

Bola wrote:

good tool.... but there is something as pacman-optimize for yaourt?

yaourt just use pacman for installing/removing packages. So you can use pacman-optimize too.
I recommend personally pacman-cage for mounting pacmandb as loopbacked filesystem.
It can be found here:

[archlinuxfr]
Server = http://www.archlinux.fr/os/i686

wain · 2007-03-20 22:19:32

For those who already use pacman3-rc2, here is the first compatible release of yaourt.
http://archiwain.free.fr/os/i686/yaourt … pkg.tar.gz

Warning, as long as srcpac is not updated for pacman3, it is not possible to compile packages directly from sources.

Changelog:

- Better colors for light background terminal (cf solstice post on AUR's page)
New options --lightbg for white background and --nocolor.
- Ability to vote for favorite packages on AUR for inclusion in [community] with aurvote.
- fixed bug with version comparison, pointed out by cromo
- searching for packages which depends on X (yaourt -Sq --depends <pkgname>)
- searching for packages which conflicts with X (yaourt -Sq --conflicts <pkgname>)
- searching for packages wich provides X (yaourt -Sq --provides <pkgname>)
- Support for group listing (yaourt -Sg)

I hope you'll like it !

Susu · 2007-03-20 23:43:49

Hope pacman3 will soon be in current. Anyway... the changelog sounds good. :-)

Zer0 · 2007-03-25 18:56:30

wain simply put... you kick ass!

Always listening to the users, Thank you for adding voting ability as per request !!
I can't wait to try it out when pacman 3 goes final.

props on the new colour options also!

mutlu_inek · 2007-03-25 19:29:01

First, thank you for this outstanding tool! You do a great service to Arch!

wain wrote:

- searching for packages which depends on X (yaourt -Sq --depends <pkgname>)
- searching for packages which conflicts with X (yaourt -Sq --conflicts <pkgname>)
- searching for packages wich provides X (yaourt -Sq --provides <pkgname>)

WOW!

wain wrote:

- Ability to vote for favorite packages on AUR for inclusion in [community] with aurvote.

This is a great idea, too. But what disturbs me is that username and password for AUR are simply put into a file in the home directory. I doubt that there will ever be any exploits regarding our rather tiny distribution, but I simply dislike putting password as clear text somewhere on a harddrive Therefore, I immediately purged aurvote. It would be nice if you could address this in later versions.

Keep up the good work.

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wain · 2007-03-26 10:11:16

mutlu_inek wrote:

wain wrote:
- Ability to vote for favorite packages on AUR for inclusion in [community] with aurvote.
This is a great idea, too. But what disturbs me is that username and password for AUR are simply put into a file in the home directory. I doubt that there will ever be any exploits regarding our rather tiny distribution, but I simply dislike putting password as clear text somewhere on a harddrive Therefore, I immediately purged aurvote. It would be nice if you could address this in later versions.

I know clear text password is frightening, but reality is that it is impossible at this time to use a password with AUR in a securised way. Moreover, it is not possible with a bash script to handle crypted passwords in full safety.
My advice is to use a single password which will be used only for AUR login.
Do you agree with that?

mutlu_inek · 2007-03-26 21:16:01

wain wrote:

Do you agree with that?

Maybe the file should be accessible only by root/sudoer. It should not be a big obstacle since yaourt uses su anyway.

dolby · 2007-03-26 21:28:38

where does yaourt save the pkgs it builds from aur? doesnt it use makepkg to build em?

wain · 2007-03-26 21:48:43

mutlu_inek wrote:

wain wrote:
Do you agree with that?
Maybe the file should be accessible only by root/sudoer. It should not be a big obstacle since yaourt uses su anyway.

I never launch yaourt as root, especially for the installation of AUR packages for security reason. But using aurvote in yaourt only as root is a good idea

dolby wrote:

where does yaourt save the pkgs it builds from aur? doesnt it use makepkg to build em?

Yes yaourt uses makepkg. All pkg.tar.gz are stored in /tmp/yaourt-tmp-user/ directory until install.
If install fails, packages are kept in /tmp. If install is successfull, they are removed.
Yaourt support an option --export to keep pkg.tar.gz and PKGBUILD in a given directory.

dolby · 2007-03-26 21:58:19

wain wrote:

dolby wrote:
where does yaourt save the pkgs it builds from aur? doesnt it use makepkg to build em?
Yes yaourt uses makepkg. All pkg.tar.gz are stored in /tmp/yaourt-tmp-user/ directory until install.
If install fails, packages are kept in /tmp. If install is successfull, they are removed.
Yaourt support an option --export to keep pkg.tar.gz and PKGBUILD in a given directory.

imho that should be standard behaviour . also since makepkg.conf defines a directory where made pkgs go why should the user define it again?

edit: since noone answered that, do you think it would be possible for the pages in archlinux.fr to be translated in english enad ported to wiki.rchlinux.org? like http://wiki.archlinux.fr/howto:archlinux:yaourt for example

ps. thanks for this great script

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mutlu_inek · 2007-03-27 05:19:44

wain wrote:

I never launch yaourt as root, especially for the installation of AUR packages for security reason.

Hmm... maybe I am missing something here. I do not run yaourt as root, either, but it does ask for my su (i.e. user) password. The same thing should be done for voting.

wain · 2007-03-27 07:51:30

dolby wrote:

imho that should be standard behaviour . also since makepkg.conf defines a directory where made pkgs go why should the user define it again?

the goal of --export is to build a repository. Yaourt exports the .pkg.tar.gz and a directory with PKGBUILD and all local sources.
In the general case, I don't see a reason to keep .pkg.tar.gz after a successfull install. Could you explain me?

dolby wrote:

edit: since noone answered that, do you think it would be possible for the pages in archlinux.fr to be translated in english enad ported to wiki.rchlinux.org? like http://wiki.archlinux.fr/howto:archlinux:yaourt for example
ps. thanks for this great script

I have a lot of work on yaourt at this time. I rewrite srcpac completely since it is not compatible any more with pacman3 and that the patchs sent on bugs.archlinux.org are not integrated for a long time. And my english level is not enough good to write a full documentation
Maybe you could begin a wiki page which I could revise later ?

dolby · 2007-03-27 08:53:14

i wasnt refering to you ofc. writing the code is enough, at least from my point of view.
as i said before i would be more than happy to translate it but i dont know ANY french.
afaik though arch has a significant amount of users french or maybe even canadian who speak the language that could do it.
documentation besides manpages is very important and i dont see why important pages in any of the non-english wiki's shouldnt be copied to the main wiki. after all it supports french afaik

emphire · 2007-03-30 07:44:19

Looks great. One thing though... Would it be possible to get it to check the arch=() flags for aur packages? I'm running the x84_64 version and it's listing aur i686-only packages (like google-earth and wine-cvs).

Thanks,
jon

wain · 2007-03-30 09:01:47

emphire wrote:

Looks great. One thing though... Would it be possible to get it to check the arch=() flags for aur packages? I'm running the x84_64 version and it's listing aur i686-only packages (like google-earth and wine-cvs).

Currently, it is not possible to search like that on AUR. I have filled a feature request: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/6756
I will add a warning in yaourt just before building the PKGBUILD

Bola · 2007-03-31 18:38:32

It's time for yaourt based on pacman 3.0.0??

wain · 2007-03-31 19:23:33

Bola wrote:

It's time for yaourt based on pacman 3.0.0??

it's here
http://archiwain.free.fr/os/i686/yaourt … pkg.tar.gz

I will update it on AUR when pacman 3.0 move in [current].

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