New instilation, X won't start!

orionYoung · 2006-10-05 13:36:49

I just installed the base system and all the needed packages to get X up and running. When I type startx it flickers, i see the x display and cursor, then it stops and gives me this message:

FreeFontPath: FPE"/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.

then back to command prompt. Any ideas?

P.S. I used hwd -s to make the xorg.conf

idjut · 2006-10-05 13:55:05

You need to install a window manager like fluxbox or enlightenment or a desktop manager like kde, gnome or xfce4.

Do pacman -S fluxbox

Add 'exec startfluxbox' as the last line in .xinitrc. Edit that file with "vi .xinitrc" press i to input. When finished press esc and type :wq to save and exit. If you want one of the dm's, take a look in the wiki

orionYoung · 2006-10-05 14:25:38

well, it pauses a bit longer at the X screen then goes back to the same error!

stonecrest · 2006-10-05 16:36:03

/var/log/Xorg.0.log

_adam_ · 2006-10-05 17:15:46

idjut wrote:

Add 'exec startfluxbox' as the last line in .xinitrc. Edit that file with "vi .xinitrc" press i to input. When finished press esc and type :wq to save and exit.

It should be just 'exec fluxbox'.

Kenetixx · 2006-10-06 03:02:42

Your not trying to start x in root are you?

silencer · 2006-10-06 03:29:31

I had a problem with X too in a fresh install, (twice ). I fixed it by installing xorg-fonts-type1.

Just do

 pacman -S xorg-fonts-type1

and see if that fixes the problem. It's weird, but with xorg 7.0 this never happened (to me at least).

Hope it helps

see ya!

silencer

orionYoung · 2006-10-06 11:02:19

I have type1 installed. I tried changing the line from "exec startfluxbox" to "exec fluxbox" nothing different happened. Yes I am trying to start X as root but after your post I made a user and tried it from there, which returned the following:

hostname: Host name look up failure
xauth: timeout in locking authority file //.serverauth.5402
xauth: timeout in locking authority file //.Xauthority

It hangs for a bit then produces the same errors as stated earlier.

Oh, by the way, the computer is not hooked up to the net, I transfered all the needed packages via usb! so -S does not work for me! I install package by package.

ralvez · 2006-10-06 13:37:22

I'm not sure how you made your /etc/X11/xorg.conf from hwd -s but ...
make sure you have the fonts and path correct in your xorg.conf.
If should look like this:

Section "Files"
# The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.
RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
#
#
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
# The module search path. The default path is shown here.
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
EndSection

When I just installed arch (just a couple of days ago) I had a similar problem and once I fixed the fonts and Modue Path it worked.

BTW if you did your xorg.conf "by hand" you may try xorgconfig (as root) and it will build one for you, then you make sure of the changes I just mentioned and you are good to go.

Hope this helps.

Rick

Lone_Wolf · 2006-10-06 16:24:51

orionYoung wrote:

hostname: Host name look up failure

This can be solved by editing /etc/hosts .

Look for

127.0.0.1        localhost.localdomain    localhost

and add the hostname you set in /etc/rc.conf at the end of the line above , so it will look like this :

127.0.0.1        localhost.localdomain    localhost julius

yankees26 · 2006-10-06 18:55:06

Try installing other font packages that you have listed like: xorg-fonts-100dpi, etc. That is how I got X working when it wasn't working.

pelle.k · 2006-10-06 19:46:36

hi. I always install xorg-fonts-100dpi, xorg-fonts-75dpi and xorg-fonts-misc to make Xorg work.

omgwtfbyobbq · 2006-10-09 12:31:48

I had the same problem with a recent install when my user didn't own the directory assigned to it, a chown -R user /user/home/directory fixed it.

The_Nerd · 2006-10-09 12:39:54

silencer wrote:

I had a problem with X too in a fresh install, (twice ). I fixed it by installing xorg-fonts-type1.
Just do
 pacman -S xorg-fonts-type1 
and see if that fixes the problem. It's weird, but with xorg 7.0 this never happened (to me at least).
Hope it helps
see ya!
silencer

think this could be a bug? I have also had this problem on a number of recent fresh installs. Could it be that the new xorg 7.x.x builds of Xorg are missing a font rependency that lets it run right off the bat?

installing xorg-fonts-100dpi/75dpi didnt work for me, whatever dependency seemed to work by me installing the ttf-ms-fonts. That being said i just thought i'd ask.

ralvez · 2006-10-09 14:09:43

Looking at the path for the fonts "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled" it seems inconsistent with the new path for Xorg:"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
Perhaps that is the source of the problem... a wrong path.
Naturally, since this is a new install there is something wrong in the install base. :shock:

rawfuzz · 2006-10-09 14:25:35

Post the output of

tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log

orionYoung · 2006-10-09 14:29:46

Ralvez, Opps.. I meant I used "hwd -x" to make my xorg.conf, and yes my paths are correct.

Lone_wolf, I added the host name and now I have a different error, but no hostname complaints! Thanks! One down two to go!

Yankee,Pelle, I have all mentioned font packs installed and re-installed.

omg, did the chown, now root and user get the same errors! So another error bites the dust! Thanks. By the way what doest the byobbq part of your name stand for?

Silencer, Nerd, I don't have direct internet accesses right now, so I have to install package by package! No -S for me!

After following all the above suggestions the error message has changed a lot! Now I get just 2 errors, logged in a root or user! Here are the new errors.

(EE) Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "pcidata" (modules does not exist, 0)

Only two (EE)'s and same in user or root! Is this progress, I think so?! Any way, I greped both xinitrc and xorg.cong for bitmap and pcidata, and got nothing! What now?

orionYoung · 2006-10-09 15:03:51

Ralvez, on my system threre is no directory named /usr/lib/X11/fonts/ ? Should I move the fonts dir from ist current location to the fore mentioned one?

as requested

(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module pcidata
(II) UnloadModule: "pcidata"
(EE) Failed to load module "pcidata" (module does not exist, 0)

Fatal server error:
Unable to load required base modules, Exiting...

(WW) xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor
(WW) xf86CloseConsole: VT_GETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor

ralvez · 2006-10-09 16:31:47

well ... if it is working then do not do it but if it is not then there is something to consider.
What makes me wonder is ... why your install seems so diferent from a regular install.
Have you considered using xorgconfig to get a "regular" xorg.conf config file. You can alwasy save your current configuration and give it a try with xorgconfig.

twiistedkaos · 2006-10-09 16:40:46

I always manually configure mine so I don't have this issue.

orionYoung · 2006-10-10 16:07:23

Well, I went back and decided to re-install xorg-11R7 (in current) when I realized the file size was 1KB compared to previous versions being 61708KB large! This might be the problem! maybe thats why it can't find any modules, there might not be any! So I tried "pacman -R xorg-11R7" and then installed R6 but still bad results. I have decided to start with a fresh install of Base then build off from there, paying close attention to filesize and what not! Thanks for all the help! Hopefully I won' have to much more trouble.

ralvez · 2006-10-10 21:33:13

Well ... if you want to do an install of X using pacman you have to download a buch of programs not just one. That may be the reason you find the file size too small.

Do a pacman -Ss xorg (to see all the related files) and then query all the files that pertain including the xorg-tools and you should be OK.

Rick

orionYoung · 2006-10-11 12:12:57

I am aware of the dependencies, I mean the file xorg-11R7.0-1.pkg.tar.gz itself is only 1kb, and file xorg-11R6.8.2-6.pkg.tar.gz is 61708kb! I do not currently have a direct internet conection so I creat a list of all dependencies for a package and download them all onto a usb then transfer them to my system.

orionYoung · 2006-10-13 08:13:06

Ok! Did a fresh install. The only things on my system right now are base, hwd, and all required packages for xorg-11R6 and fluxbox. now I have a totally new problem. If is start xdm all goes well but, startx leads to this error

(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
(**) Keyboard1: XkbModel: "pc104"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) Keyboard1: XkbLayout: "us"
(**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
(**) Keyboard1: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard1" (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE)
(II) Mouse1: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list!

I created the Xconfig through xorgconfig. The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/ only contains a few files? what package will fix this?

pelle.k · 2006-10-13 09:39:58

kde, and also kdm need ttf-bitstream-vera package. Xorg need (as pointed out earlier) xorg-fonts-100dpi, xorg-fonts-75dpi and xorg-fonts-misc.

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