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#1 2004-02-16 07:26:21

JGC
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New Gnome 2.5 repository

It has been a while since I updated the gnome 2.5 repository, so I started building it from scratch yesterday.
The desktop is completely usable now, I haven't seen crashes. The only thing that bothers me is that I can't find out how to use calendar and LDAP directory servers in evolution, and the good old SMB browsing still pops up messages about nothing being associated to blabla, you know the problem.

You can get the packages from http://schoolbak.dyndns.org/gnome25/

There's more information + screenshots over there.

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#2 2004-02-24 10:55:44

JGC
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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Gnome 2.6 beta1 is on its way, it should get released this week.

I'm using these packages for a while now and they never crashed. Gnome 2.6 needs testing to go into arch when it's released. Please test these packages and post your comments.

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#3 2004-02-25 08:33:51

Theuni
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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Just installed it. Evolution won't start with this exception:

 evolution-1.5: /lib/libpthread.so.0: version `GLIBC_2.3.3' not found (required by /opt/gnome/lib/evolution/1.5/libeutil.so.0)

I'll see what is happening there ...


Christian Theune | ct@gocept.com | http://www.gocept.com

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#4 2004-02-25 08:40:37

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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Ok, my pacman tells me I only have a glibc-2.3.2 installed, but I can't find a 2.3.3. Where do you got yours from? (I suppose you have a glibc-2.3.3 as it looks like evo/gnome needs it)


Christian Theune | ct@gocept.com | http://www.gocept.com

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#5 2004-02-25 21:34:30

JGC
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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Ouch, evo seems to link to glibc 2.3.3 now sad

Schoolbak.dyndns.org also uses NPTL glibc, hosted at http://schoolbak.dyndns.org/nptl/

You can read the instructions over there about how to get glibc 2.3.3, rebuild evolution yourself, or wait till I do on a glibc 2.3.2 system.

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#6 2004-03-02 10:02:45

JGC
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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Ah, thanks for that one, that one was still missing indeed smile

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#7 2004-03-02 20:27:33

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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Just installed it, and all of the gtkapplets died a horrid death  big_smile

Thus, my clock went poof - gone. I have tried removing and readding the package, hitting the screen with a nerf bat, adding other applets, calling in some favors from the Mob, and a long stream of swear words.

it seems that when ever I add a gtkapplet, that applet dies.. ANy insight?

Not a big issue right now, I just get yelled at for spending too much time on the computer.   8)

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#8 2004-03-02 23:04:59

JGC
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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Does it give any output on the console you started X from? (it's better for debugging to stop gdm and log in from textconsole and then use startx)

I don't have any problem with applets dying over here.

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#9 2004-03-03 00:25:20

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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

I have not had a chance to do that yet... I will soon as I get home.

Here is the exact error code:

The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet".
Details: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_9/prefs;background=pixmap:10495374,-1,-1;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false

Also note - this is not all of the applets - weather works, dict. lookup works - just not clock.  :shock:

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#10 2004-03-03 18:35:52

JGC
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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Weird, very weird: I have a clock on my panel and when I add a 2nd it is fine too.

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#11 2004-03-04 07:29:02

ganlu
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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet".
Details: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_9/prefs;background=pixmap:10495374,-1,-1;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false

I got the same error, I don't know what's wrong, but I set to UTC. and some mimetype links such as totem for RMVB have broken, even I wanna play a Xvid ripped audio file, gnome will pop up a WARNNING message saying something like microsoft audio file format and secruity risk.

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#12 2004-03-06 19:05:25

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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Today I upgraded my terminal server from 2.4 to 2.5, and guess what happened?

Yup, you've got that right: the problem you guys have with the clock. I guess you also have problems with XKB configuration error dialog on startup wink

The problem is in the .install scripts:

when post_upgrade is called, it calls post_install $2, where it should be post_install $1 if I'm right. I will fix this in the next few days, as all .install files need a checkup.

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#13 2004-03-06 21:32:25

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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

I rebuilt gnome-panel with a modified gnome-panel.install file. After installing the update, shuttding down gconfd and respawning it, the clock applet works again.

This means we have very much work to do:
in all gnome .install files, post_install $2 is used as post_upgrade action, which should be post_install $1 instead. This means every gnome package needs an update. I notificated Blaasvis, the gnome 2.4 maintainer about this, because gnome 2.4 also has this error. Gnome 2.4 is much more forgiving than 2.5 is when it comes to missing gconf keys.

What I want to do tomorrow:
- fix .install files
- add a pre_remove to clean up gconf keys from gconf
- assign new groups

Blaasvis already told me about the new groups:
- gnome
- gnome-extra

gnome should contain only the base gnome desktop (without games for example). Gnome-extra contains all the optional packages that belong to the gnome desktop release.

I would like to introduce two new groups, called gnome-fifth-toe and gnome-office, which include the gnome-fifth-toe application set and abiword/gnumeric. Maybe it's nice to have a "gnome-base" also and reassign the gnome group to add all these groups, though I don't know if that is possible in arch.

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#14 2004-03-08 08:46:11

ganlu
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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

I can't access your package repository several days, now I certainly get some good news, thank you a lot.

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#15 2004-03-08 21:56:05

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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

All libraries and the gnome group is done now, the .install files are checked and the libs have the right dependencies.

The clock applet works again, since schemafiles are installed on upgrades too now. Note that when performing an upgrade while gconf is running (what happens when you upgrade while logged in into gnome), you have to use "gconftool-2 --shutdown; gconftool-2 --spawn" to get the new applied schemas in your gconf database.

The gnome-extra applications need some work, didn't have time to move them to the new group yet. Also, new libs and base packages were upgraded after I finished work on them, so I needed to compile them again.

If you might encounter problems with GLIBC_2_3_3 strings: the build machine is running NPTL glibc from CVS, which is GLIBC 2.3.3 in fact. The machine I used to build with glibc 2.3.2 on it has a dead harddisk (had to disable the IDE controller to get into knoppix to post this message sad), so I won't be supplying packages against glibc 2.3.2 for a while. AFAIK, only evolution is affected till now. The NPTL glibc 2.3.3 packages are available at http://schoolbak.dyndns.org/nptl/

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#16 2004-03-08 23:06:01

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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

dude you and your little way to fast server both rule!

If I can help building those libraries on a non-nptl server just ask and I'll do it

says a die-hard KDE user


apt-get install arch

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#17 2004-03-12 08:39:58

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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Hi, I just upgraded from Gnome 2.4 to 2.6beta from your repository.

One problem I have is that if I click on "filesystem" in the new file chooser, the whole application crashes with the message:

(gedit:964): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkfilesystem.c: line 320 (gtk_file_system_get_folder): assertion `path != NULL' failed

(gnome_segv:965): Gtk-WARNING **: Ignoring the separator setting

Other than that, also for me, the clock applet doesn't work anymore. I thought this was fixed but maybe I misunderstood?

Alex

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#18 2004-03-14 20:58:49

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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

The clock applet doesn't work for me either.

Peschmä

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#19 2004-03-14 21:01:07

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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Can anybody confirm the GtkFileChooser crashes I have?

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#20 2004-03-14 21:53:10

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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Sometimes, funny things happen. My gnome-panel just crashed because of that bug in GtkFileChooser I mentioned above (i chose "Run Application" and "Run with file" and clicked on "Filesystem"). After the panel came up again, the clock applet suddenly works! So, guys, find a way to freeze and kill your panel, and the clock will suddenly work  smile

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#21 2004-03-15 11:15:28

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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Unluckily the filechooser doesn't crash my system. So my clock doesn't work.  :twisted:

Peschmä

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#22 2004-03-15 13:50:31

Shemeta
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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

my clock doesn't work either, sound too!  :twisted:

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#23 2004-03-15 23:16:23

JGC
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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Clock should be really fixed now, it works here on upgrade installs for about 2 releases now, and the last version also fixes the preferences window that causes the clock to segfault (maybe it fixes your crash too wink)

Another thing:
I added expocity per request. To allow expocity to take in metacity's place, both provide gnome-wm now and each conflicts with eachother. Problem you get on upgrade now: control-center wants gnome-wm, and expocity is the first candidate for that, as the currently installed metacity isn't providing it yet.
This also triggers another shortcoming in pacman: expocity will try to remove metacity then, but fails because the current installed control-center depends on metacity. This is the solution to fix this:

pacman -Sy
pacman -S metacity
pacman -Su

if you want to switch to expocity after that:
pacman -Rd metacity
pacman -S expocity

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#24 2004-03-16 19:16:42

peschmae
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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Thanks for the Upgrade. I even now get a spash-screen on startup big_smile

But unluckily the clock still doesn't work. Tried removing ~/.g* - but it didn't help. Clocks who sould be added say:

The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet".
Details: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_18/prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=xx-small;locked_down=false

Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?

If I say Delete it is deleted. If I don't say delete it is not but doesn't appear either - on next startup the Dialog pops up again.

Peschmä

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#25 2004-03-17 00:04:50

JGC
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Re: New Gnome 2.5 repository

Did you try to shut down gconf using "gconftool-2 --shutdown; gconftool-2 --spawn?

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