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#1 2021-03-13 19:49:09

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Firefox glyph font problem

I'm having problem with the Firefox not rendering glyphs with my choice of fonts. I'm currently using Open Sans font (ttf-opensans) for my web browser to use. It seems that no matter what font I use the glyphs don't show up correctly, unless I use specific fonts, FreeSans (gnu-free-fonts) or Cantarell (cantarell-fonts). I know for a fact that Open Sans or any other Sans would work just fine, because they do have all those glyphs. Is there a way to get around this problem?

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#2 2021-03-13 22:42:53

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Re: Firefox glyph font problem

https://archlinux.org/packages/communit … -opensans/ does not provide U+22C5

FC_DEBUG=4 pango-view --font="Open Sans" -t "⋅" | grep family:

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#3 2021-03-13 22:48:51

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Re: Firefox glyph font problem

Ahh. Okay. I guess I need to find a font that supports U+22C5! Thanks!

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#4 2021-03-13 22:51:34

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Re: Firefox glyph font problem

No you don't.
There's a glyph substitution process and while I didn't chek the other fonts you mentioned, apparently something™ can resolve U+22C5

Please  post the output of the command I posted.
There's a chance that fontconfig resolves a pcf bitmap font and pango won't render those anymore.

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#5 2021-03-14 01:19:37

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Re: Firefox glyph font problem

I get


pango-view: Invalid byte sequence in conversion input

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#6 2021-03-14 06:58:14

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Re: Firefox glyph font problem

Output of

localectl
locale
locale -a

And then fix your locale, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Locale

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#7 2021-03-14 15:32:17

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Re: Firefox glyph font problem

localectl

System Locale: LANG=C
VC Keymap: n/a
X11 Layout: n/a

locale

LANG=C
LC_CTYPE="C"
LC_NUMERIC="C"
LC_TIME="C"
LC_COLLATE="C"
LC_MONETARY="C"
LC_MESSAGES="C"
LC_PAPER="C"
LC_NAME="C"
LC_ADDRESS="C"
LC_TELEPHONE="C"
LC_MEASUREMENT="C"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="C"
LC_ALL=

locale -a

C
POSIX
en_US.utf8
ko_KR.utf8

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#8 2021-03-14 15:37:34

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#9 2021-03-14 16:49:28

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Re: Firefox glyph font problem

localectl

System Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8
VC Keymap: n/a
X11 Layout: n/a

locale

LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

locale -a

C
en_US.utf8
ko_KR.utf8
POSIX

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#10 2021-03-14 16:58:54

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Re: Firefox glyph font problem

And now that pango will not cast an error: what's the output?

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#11 2021-03-14 18:17:45

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Re: Firefox glyph font problem

	family: "Open Sans"(s)
	family: "Open Sans"(s)
	family: "Open Sans"(s) "sans-serif"(w)
	family: "Open Sans"(s) "DejaVu Sans"(w) "Verdana"(w) "Arial"(w) "Albany AMT"(w) "Luxi Sans"(w) "Nimbus Sans L"(w) "Nimbus Sans"(w) "Helvetica"(w) "Lucida Sans Unicode"(w) "BPG Glaho International"(w) "Tahoma"(w) "sans-serif"(w)
	family: "Open Sans"(s) "DejaVu Sans"(w) "Verdana"(w) "Arial"(w) "Albany AMT"(w) "Luxi Sans"(w) "Nimbus Sans L"(w) "Nimbus Sans"(w) "Helvetica"(w) "Lucida Sans Unicode"(w) "BPG Glaho International"(w) "Tahoma"(w) "sans-serif"(w) "Roya"(w) "Koodak"(w) "Terafik"(w)
	family: "Open Sans"(s) "DejaVu Sans"(w) "Verdana"(w) "Arial"(w) "Albany AMT"(w) "Luxi Sans"(w) "Nimbus Sans L"(w) "Nimbus Sans"(w) "Helvetica"(w) "Lucida Sans Unicode"(w) "BPG Glaho International"(w) "Tahoma"(w) "Nachlieli"(w) "Lucida Sans Unicode"(w) "Yudit Unicode"(w) "Kerkis"(w) "ArmNet Helvetica"(w) "Artsounk"(w) "BPG UTF8 M"(w) "Waree"(w) "Loma"(w) "Garuda"(w) "Umpush"(w) "Saysettha Unicode"(w) "JG Lao Old Arial"(w) "GF Zemen Unicode"(w) "Pigiarniq"(w) "B Davat"(w) "B Compset"(w) "Kacst-Qr"(w) "Urdu Nastaliq Unicode"(w) "Raghindi"(w) "Mukti Narrow"(w) "malayalam"(w) "Sampige"(w) "padmaa"(w) "Hapax Berbère"(w) "MS Gothic"(w) "UmePlus P Gothic"(w) "Microsoft YaHei"(w) "Microsoft JhengHei"(w) "WenQuanYi Zen Hei"(w) "WenQuanYi Bitmap Song"(w) "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni"(w) "AR PL New Sung"(w) "MgOpen Modata"(w) "VL Gothic"(w) "IPAMonaGothic"(w) "IPAGothic"(w) "Sazanami Gothic"(w) "Kochi Gothic"(w) "AR PL KaitiM GB"(w) "AR PL KaitiM Big5"(w) "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni"(w) "AR PL SungtiL GB"(w) "AR PL Mingti2L Big5"(w) "MS ゴシック"(w) "ZYSong18030"(w) "TSCu_Paranar"(w) "NanumGothic"(w) "UnDotum"(w) "Baekmuk Dotum"(w) "Baekmuk Gulim"(w) "KacstQura"(w) "Lohit Bengali"(w) "Lohit Gujarati"(w) "Lohit Hindi"(w) "Lohit Marathi"(w) "Lohit Maithili"(w) "Lohit Kashmiri"(w) "Lohit Konkani"(w) "Lohit Nepali"(w) "Lohit Sindhi"(w) "Lohit Punjabi"(w) "Lohit Tamil"(w) "Meera"(w) "Lohit Malayalam"(w) "Lohit Kannada"(w) "Lohit Telugu"(w) "Lohit Oriya"(w) "LKLUG"(w) "sans-serif"(w) "Roya"(w) "Koodak"(w) "Terafik"(w)
	family: "Open Sans"(s) "DejaVu Sans"(w) "Verdana"(w) "Arial"(w) "Albany AMT"(w) "Luxi Sans"(w) "Nimbus Sans L"(w) "Nimbus Sans"(w) "Helvetica"(w) "Lucida Sans Unicode"(w) "BPG Glaho International"(w) "Tahoma"(w) "Nachlieli"(w) "Lucida Sans Unicode"(w) "Yudit Unicode"(w) "Kerkis"(w) "ArmNet Helvetica"(w) "Artsounk"(w) "BPG UTF8 M"(w) "Waree"(w) "Loma"(w) "Garuda"(w) "Umpush"(w) "Saysettha Unicode"(w) "JG Lao Old Arial"(w) "GF Zemen Unicode"(w) "Pigiarniq"(w) "B Davat"(w) "B Compset"(w) "Kacst-Qr"(w) "Urdu Nastaliq Unicode"(w) "Raghindi"(w) "Mukti Narrow"(w) "malayalam"(w) "Sampige"(w) "padmaa"(w) "Hapax Berbère"(w) "MS Gothic"(w) "UmePlus P Gothic"(w) "Microsoft YaHei"(w) "Microsoft JhengHei"(w) "WenQuanYi Zen Hei"(w) "WenQuanYi Bitmap Song"(w) "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni"(w) "AR PL New Sung"(w) "MgOpen Modata"(w) "VL Gothic"(w) "IPAMonaGothic"(w) "IPAGothic"(w) "Sazanami Gothic"(w) "Kochi Gothic"(w) "AR PL KaitiM GB"(w) "AR PL KaitiM Big5"(w) "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni"(w) "AR PL SungtiL GB"(w) "AR PL Mingti2L Big5"(w) "MS ゴシック"(w) "ZYSong18030"(w) "TSCu_Paranar"(w) "NanumGothic"(w) "UnDotum"(w) "Baekmuk Dotum"(w) "Baekmuk Gulim"(w) "KacstQura"(w) "Lohit Bengali"(w) "Lohit Gujarati"(w) "Lohit Hindi"(w) "Lohit Marathi"(w) "Lohit Maithili"(w) "Lohit Kashmiri"(w) "Lohit Konkani"(w) "Lohit Nepali"(w) "Lohit Sindhi"(w) "Lohit Punjabi"(w) "Lohit Tamil"(w) "Meera"(w) "Lohit Malayalam"(w) "Lohit Kannada"(w) "Lohit Telugu"(w) "Lohit Oriya"(w) "LKLUG"(w) "FreeSans"(w) "Arial Unicode MS"(w) "Arial Unicode"(w) "Code2000"(w) "Code2001"(w) "sans-serif"(w) "Roya"(w) "Koodak"(w) "Terafik"(w)
	family: "Open Sans"(s) "DejaVu Sans"(w) "Verdana"(w) "Arial"(w) "Albany AMT"(w) "Luxi Sans"(w) "Nimbus Sans L"(w) "Nimbus Sans"(w) "Helvetica"(w) "Lucida Sans Unicode"(w) "BPG Glaho International"(w) "Tahoma"(w) "Nachlieli"(w) "Lucida Sans Unicode"(w) "Yudit Unicode"(w) "Kerkis"(w) "ArmNet Helvetica"(w) "Artsounk"(w) "BPG UTF8 M"(w) "Waree"(w) "Loma"(w) "Garuda"(w) "Umpush"(w) "Saysettha Unicode"(w) "JG Lao Old Arial"(w) "GF Zemen Unicode"(w) "Pigiarniq"(w) "B Davat"(w) "B Compset"(w) "Kacst-Qr"(w) "Urdu Nastaliq Unicode"(w) "Raghindi"(w) "Mukti Narrow"(w) "malayalam"(w) "Sampige"(w) "padmaa"(w) "Hapax Berbère"(w) "MS Gothic"(w) "UmePlus P Gothic"(w) "Microsoft YaHei"(w) "Microsoft JhengHei"(w) "WenQuanYi Zen Hei"(w) "WenQuanYi Bitmap Song"(w) "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni"(w) "AR PL New Sung"(w) "MgOpen Modata"(w) "VL Gothic"(w) "IPAMonaGothic"(w) "IPAGothic"(w) "Sazanami Gothic"(w) "Kochi Gothic"(w) "AR PL KaitiM GB"(w) "AR PL KaitiM Big5"(w) "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni"(w) "AR PL SungtiL GB"(w) "AR PL Mingti2L Big5"(w) "MS ゴシック"(w) "ZYSong18030"(w) "TSCu_Paranar"(w) "NanumGothic"(w) "UnDotum"(w) "Baekmuk Dotum"(w) "Baekmuk Gulim"(w) "KacstQura"(w) "Lohit Bengali"(w) "Lohit Gujarati"(w) "Lohit Hindi"(w) "Lohit Marathi"(w) "Lohit Maithili"(w) "Lohit Kashmiri"(w) "Lohit Konkani"(w) "Lohit Nepali"(w) "Lohit Sindhi"(w) "Lohit Punjabi"(w) "Lohit Tamil"(w) "Meera"(w) "Lohit Malayalam"(w) "Lohit Kannada"(w) "Lohit Telugu"(w) "Lohit Oriya"(w) "LKLUG"(w) "FreeSans"(w) "Arial Unicode MS"(w) "Arial Unicode"(w) "Code2000"(w) "Code2001"(w) "sans-serif"(w) "Roya"(w) "Koodak"(w) "Terafik"(w)
	family: "Open Sans"(s)
	family: "Open Sans"(s)
	family: "NanumGothic"(s)
	family: "NanumGothic"(s)
	family: "Fixedsys Excelsior"(s)
	family: "Fixedsys Excelsior"(s)
	family: "Sansation"(s)
	family: "Sansation"(s)
	family: "monospace"(s)
	family: "monospace"(s)
	family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"(w) "Inconsolata"(w) "Andale Mono"(w) "Courier New"(w) "Cumberland AMT"(w) "Luxi Mono"(w) "Nimbus Mono L"(w) "Nimbus Mono"(w) "Nimbus Mono PS"(w) "Courier"(w) "monospace"(s)
	family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"(w) "Inconsolata"(w) "Andale Mono"(w) "Courier New"(w) "Cumberland AMT"(w) "Luxi Mono"(w) "Nimbus Mono L"(w) "Nimbus Mono"(w) "Nimbus Mono PS"(w) "Courier"(w) "monospace"(s) "Terafik"(w)
	family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"(w) "Inconsolata"(w) "Andale Mono"(w) "Courier New"(w) "Cumberland AMT"(w) "Luxi Mono"(w) "Nimbus Mono L"(w) "Nimbus Mono"(w) "Nimbus Mono PS"(w) "Courier"(w) "Miriam Mono"(w) "VL Gothic"(w) "IPAMonaGothic"(w) "IPAGothic"(w) "Sazanami Gothic"(w) "Kochi Gothic"(w) "AR PL KaitiM GB"(w) "MS Gothic"(w) "UmePlus Gothic"(w) "NSimSun"(w) "MingLiu"(w) "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni"(w) "AR PL New Sung Mono"(w) "HanyiSong"(w) "AR PL SungtiL GB"(w) "AR PL Mingti2L Big5"(w) "ZYSong18030"(w) "NanumGothicCoding"(w) "NanumGothic"(w) "UnDotum"(w) "Baekmuk Dotum"(w) "Baekmuk Gulim"(w) "TlwgTypo"(w) "TlwgTypist"(w) "TlwgTypewriter"(w) "TlwgMono"(w) "Hasida"(w) "GF Zemen Unicode"(w) "Hapax Berbère"(w) "Lohit Bengali"(w) "Lohit Gujarati"(w) "Lohit Hindi"(w) "Lohit Marathi"(w) "Lohit Maithili"(w) "Lohit Kashmiri"(w) "Lohit Konkani"(w) "Lohit Nepali"(w) "Lohit Sindhi"(w) "Lohit Punjabi"(w) "Lohit Tamil"(w) "Meera"(w) "Lohit Malayalam"(w) "Lohit Kannada"(w) "Lohit Telugu"(w) "Lohit Oriya"(w) "LKLUG"(w) "monospace"(s) "Terafik"(w)
	family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"(w) "Inconsolata"(w) "Andale Mono"(w) "Courier New"(w) "Cumberland AMT"(w) "Luxi Mono"(w) "Nimbus Mono L"(w) "Nimbus Mono"(w) "Nimbus Mono PS"(w) "Courier"(w) "Miriam Mono"(w) "VL Gothic"(w) "IPAMonaGothic"(w) "IPAGothic"(w) "Sazanami Gothic"(w) "Kochi Gothic"(w) "AR PL KaitiM GB"(w) "MS Gothic"(w) "UmePlus Gothic"(w) "NSimSun"(w) "MingLiu"(w) "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni"(w) "AR PL New Sung Mono"(w) "HanyiSong"(w) "AR PL SungtiL GB"(w) "AR PL Mingti2L Big5"(w) "ZYSong18030"(w) "NanumGothicCoding"(w) "NanumGothic"(w) "UnDotum"(w) "Baekmuk Dotum"(w) "Baekmuk Gulim"(w) "TlwgTypo"(w) "TlwgTypist"(w) "TlwgTypewriter"(w) "TlwgMono"(w) "Hasida"(w) "GF Zemen Unicode"(w) "Hapax Berbère"(w) "Lohit Bengali"(w) "Lohit Gujarati"(w) "Lohit Hindi"(w) "Lohit Marathi"(w) "Lohit Maithili"(w) "Lohit Kashmiri"(w) "Lohit Konkani"(w) "Lohit Nepali"(w) "Lohit Sindhi"(w) "Lohit Punjabi"(w) "Lohit Tamil"(w) "Meera"(w) "Lohit Malayalam"(w) "Lohit Kannada"(w) "Lohit Telugu"(w) "Lohit Oriya"(w) "LKLUG"(w) "FreeMono"(w) "monospace"(s) "Terafik"(w)
	family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"(w) "Inconsolata"(w) "Andale Mono"(w) "Courier New"(w) "Cumberland AMT"(w) "Luxi Mono"(w) "Nimbus Mono L"(w) "Nimbus Mono"(w) "Nimbus Mono PS"(w) "Courier"(w) "Miriam Mono"(w) "VL Gothic"(w) "IPAMonaGothic"(w) "IPAGothic"(w) "Sazanami Gothic"(w) "Kochi Gothic"(w) "AR PL KaitiM GB"(w) "MS Gothic"(w) "UmePlus Gothic"(w) "NSimSun"(w) "MingLiu"(w) "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni"(w) "AR PL New Sung Mono"(w) "HanyiSong"(w) "AR PL SungtiL GB"(w) "AR PL Mingti2L Big5"(w) "ZYSong18030"(w) "NanumGothicCoding"(w) "NanumGothic"(w) "UnDotum"(w) "Baekmuk Dotum"(w) "Baekmuk Gulim"(w) "TlwgTypo"(w) "TlwgTypist"(w) "TlwgTypewriter"(w) "TlwgMono"(w) "Hasida"(w) "GF Zemen Unicode"(w) "Hapax Berbère"(w) "Lohit Bengali"(w) "Lohit Gujarati"(w) "Lohit Hindi"(w) "Lohit Marathi"(w) "Lohit Maithili"(w) "Lohit Kashmiri"(w) "Lohit Konkani"(w) "Lohit Nepali"(w) "Lohit Sindhi"(w) "Lohit Punjabi"(w) "Lohit Tamil"(w) "Meera"(w) "Lohit Malayalam"(w) "Lohit Kannada"(w) "Lohit Telugu"(w) "Lohit Oriya"(w) "LKLUG"(w) "FreeMono"(w) "monospace"(s) "Terafik"(w)
	family: "Fixedsys Excelsior"(s)
	family: "Fixedsys Excelsior"(s)

And I get a GUI potting up with ⋅. Still not showing up correctly.

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#12 2021-03-14 20:00:27

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Re: Firefox glyph font problem

The last link in the chain is "Fixedsys Excelsior" and it doesn't provide that glyph either.
Install https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/ttf-dejavu/

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#13 2021-03-15 14:29:49

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Re: Firefox glyph font problem

So, the font that supports such unicode is necessary?

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#14 2021-03-15 14:36:21

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